Is this a good deal for a 5.5
07-15-2005, 10:13 AM
#7
Way to high.....Got 03 6speed TE loaded Bose,Leather, heated seats, steering wheel, and HLSD for about 17,000 with almost 40,000 miles on it.....so that price is way to high....I saw this one at a dealer near my buddy and it happen to also be listed on autotrader if your willing to travel. Marylands only like a 6-8 hours away
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=35
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=35
07-15-2005, 12:38 PM
#10
Originally Posted by ArcticDC5
Heres a picture of it. For some reason on autotrader, all 6spds in the area, the lowest price I can find was $14,995 with 40k miles on it. Does MD mark up cars or what?
Nice color and the price is good to me....The 6 speed is very nice, i take the long way home just so i can drive it longer (never did that with my auto)
07-15-2005, 05:27 PM
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Ok, so I just got back from that dealer. Took me 1 hour and 15 min to get there 35 miles down the road in rush hour ;(. The car was there, walked around it, a few scratches here and there. Took it for a 20 min test drive, everything seemed to work fine, car hauled some tail, spun the tires in 1st and 2nd gear around a u-turn as well. The salesmanager was set on me taking that car home with me tonight. But I told the young salesman I was just starting a used car search. Their asking price was $19,000, internet said $17,999. They kept asking me what I wanted my monthly payments to be, what was holding me back, etc. Ahh! I hate sales pressure, but I kept to my word I was not making any move tonight.
07-15-2005, 07:52 PM
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yeah... too high. I just got an 02 SE sunroof, but no leather, no bose, and 63K for $12,750 in TX (oh, and I got them to put brand new tires on it for me). And this was from a dealer. I'd say, $14K would be more in line. Take your time. It took me about 3 months to finally find one I liked for the right price.
07-16-2005, 08:24 AM
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I searched autotrader.com and the the lowest priced 02-03 6spd in the area is $14,995 and thats with their "internet special pricing". The more I think about the one I drove last night, the more I want it, but their price is outrageous. $18k, yeah right. I did kbb.com and wholesale value is $10k, private party value $12k and retail value $16k.
07-17-2005, 10:17 AM
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My dad has a G35c 6spd. I do like that car alot, but just feels too "luxury" for me, and not enough "sporty". I really want this mint green 6spd, but only if I can get the price I want. I need some advice on used car negotiating.
07-17-2005, 11:20 AM
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I'll help you out a bit. I work at a Nissan dealer so I see first hand what goes on every day
Typically used car prices are marked up $3-4k over what they own it for, so dont let them tell you theres no room to negotiate.
Go in there and tell them what you need to pay, take ur KBB reports offline, NEVER tell them where you want to be per month, untill you have agreed on a price, or else they can just move ##s to get you to a payment and make a ton off of you.
And even though you really want the car make sure you stick to your #'s. too often a customer will get caught up in the excitment and fold under the pressure. If they wont come to your price walk away, if they cant truly do it, they'll let you go, or as you get up they'll say ok. And if they cant hit that # don't buy it. I passed up on a number of nice ones that we were into for too much, even if you think it's fair, why would you want to bury yourself in a car?
BTW That price is way to high too. I purchased my '03 SE with every opt. except Nav for 16500.
Hope this helps you out, and good luck
Typically used car prices are marked up $3-4k over what they own it for, so dont let them tell you theres no room to negotiate.
Go in there and tell them what you need to pay, take ur KBB reports offline, NEVER tell them where you want to be per month, untill you have agreed on a price, or else they can just move ##s to get you to a payment and make a ton off of you.
And even though you really want the car make sure you stick to your #'s. too often a customer will get caught up in the excitment and fold under the pressure. If they wont come to your price walk away, if they cant truly do it, they'll let you go, or as you get up they'll say ok. And if they cant hit that # don't buy it. I passed up on a number of nice ones that we were into for too much, even if you think it's fair, why would you want to bury yourself in a car?
BTW That price is way to high too. I purchased my '03 SE with every opt. except Nav for 16500.
Hope this helps you out, and good luck
07-17-2005, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Max'dMatt2k3
I'll help you out a bit. I work at a Nissan dealer so I see first hand what goes on every day
Typically used car prices are marked up $3-4k over what they own it for, so dont let them tell you theres no room to negotiate.
Go in there and tell them what you need to pay, take ur KBB reports offline, NEVER tell them where you want to be per month, untill you have agreed on a price, or else they can just move ##s to get you to a payment and make a ton off of you.
And even though you really want the car make sure you stick to your #'s. too often a customer will get caught up in the excitment and fold under the pressure. If they wont come to your price walk away, if they cant truly do it, they'll let you go, or as you get up they'll say ok. And if they cant hit that # don't buy it. I passed up on a number of nice ones that we were into for too much, even if you think it's fair, why would you want to bury yourself in a car?
BTW That price is way to high too. I purchased my '03 SE with every opt. except Nav for 16500.
Hope this helps you out, and good luck
Typically used car prices are marked up $3-4k over what they own it for, so dont let them tell you theres no room to negotiate.
Go in there and tell them what you need to pay, take ur KBB reports offline, NEVER tell them where you want to be per month, untill you have agreed on a price, or else they can just move ##s to get you to a payment and make a ton off of you.
And even though you really want the car make sure you stick to your #'s. too often a customer will get caught up in the excitment and fold under the pressure. If they wont come to your price walk away, if they cant truly do it, they'll let you go, or as you get up they'll say ok. And if they cant hit that # don't buy it. I passed up on a number of nice ones that we were into for too much, even if you think it's fair, why would you want to bury yourself in a car?
BTW That price is way to high too. I purchased my '03 SE with every opt. except Nav for 16500.
Hope this helps you out, and good luck
I totally agree. The first 6speed i saw i wanted it so i tried to get a good deal on it and of course the salesman and sales manager tried to say they were giving me the best deal possible. The sales manager gives me some aditude about how they need to make money also (take it or leave it) so i walked. the next day i brought a much better 6 speed loaded.....for what i wanted to pay. Guess what 2 days later the salesman calls me back and agrees to my first offer and aplogizes about how the sales manager treated me. Guess what that 6 speed is still sitting on there lot
07-17-2005, 03:43 PM
#21
Originally Posted by ArcticDC5
I searched autotrader.com and the the lowest priced 02-03 6spd in the area is $14,995 and thats with their "internet special pricing". The more I think about the one I drove last night, the more I want it, but their price is outrageous. $18k, yeah right. I did kbb.com and wholesale value is $10k, private party value $12k and retail value $16k.
Wholesale value is not trade in price BTW. If the tradein is 10k, the wholesale is prolly 10.5k. They are prolly 10.5-11k into the car. If you play hardball, you could prolly get it for around 12k.
07-17-2005, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Max'dMatt2k3
I'll help you out a bit. I work at a Nissan dealer so I see first hand what goes on every day
Typically used car prices are marked up $3-4k over what they own it for, so dont let them tell you theres no room to negotiate.
Go in there and tell them what you need to pay, take ur KBB reports offline, NEVER tell them where you want to be per month, untill you have agreed on a price, or else they can just move ##s to get you to a payment and make a ton off of you.
And even though you really want the car make sure you stick to your #'s. too often a customer will get caught up in the excitment and fold under the pressure. If they wont come to your price walk away, if they cant truly do it, they'll let you go, or as you get up they'll say ok. And if they cant hit that # don't buy it. I passed up on a number of nice ones that we were into for too much, even if you think it's fair, why would you want to bury yourself in a car?
BTW That price is way to high too. I purchased my '03 SE with every opt. except Nav for 16500.
Hope this helps you out, and good luck
Typically used car prices are marked up $3-4k over what they own it for, so dont let them tell you theres no room to negotiate.
Go in there and tell them what you need to pay, take ur KBB reports offline, NEVER tell them where you want to be per month, untill you have agreed on a price, or else they can just move ##s to get you to a payment and make a ton off of you.
And even though you really want the car make sure you stick to your #'s. too often a customer will get caught up in the excitment and fold under the pressure. If they wont come to your price walk away, if they cant truly do it, they'll let you go, or as you get up they'll say ok. And if they cant hit that # don't buy it. I passed up on a number of nice ones that we were into for too much, even if you think it's fair, why would you want to bury yourself in a car?
BTW That price is way to high too. I purchased my '03 SE with every opt. except Nav for 16500.
Hope this helps you out, and good luck
07-17-2005, 04:29 PM
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Thanks for all the advice. I plan to go back there mid week and bring the kbb printouts, etc. And I will start with the price of the car and not the payments I want to pay. If I offer to pay with cash, would that constitute more attention from the salesman?
07-17-2005, 05:08 PM
#24
Originally Posted by ArcticDC5
If I offer to pay with cash, would that constitute more attention from the salesman?
07-17-2005, 06:59 PM
#26
Originally Posted by ArcticDC5
Any suggestions of the best way to sell my '91 SE 5spd? I know for a fact the dealer would not give me squat on trade in.
07-17-2005, 07:21 PM
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I sell cars for a living too and lemme give u some advice
Suppose the dealer took something in for $12000 on a trade. It then spends money putting it on sites like AutoTrader(in the newspapers, etc)... and spends money(in man hours) having guys prep it, service it, clean it, etc.
They will mark it up at an asking price of maybe $16000... but depending on the dealer, why should i sell you the car at $12500 or $13000?? Just to move the unit?? When they may know that they can sell it for $14500 quickly to someone else??
Also some advice, especially in used cars.. someone said "This is some good advice. Always remember: There is always another car, there's always another day."
While this is true, keep in mind the dealer can see your excitement about the Maxima. It's not like u just came shopping for anything, and said "oh i'll take this maxima for a drive." They know u came in off of searching a 5th gen maxima, stick, lower mileage, etc., etc.
If you come in NOT trying to make the salesman sell on price, but force him to sell "the used, 'possibly somebody else's headache', unsure if you really like the car" car.... then you may have a little bit more power in your corner
And as for the people who come in like "I'll pay in cash!!" thinking those words speak power, cash really doesnt mean a thing. Dealers will get paid regardless, and like someone else said, Cash deals prevent the dealer from making any Back-end gross thru F+I.
Good luck
Suppose the dealer took something in for $12000 on a trade. It then spends money putting it on sites like AutoTrader(in the newspapers, etc)... and spends money(in man hours) having guys prep it, service it, clean it, etc.
They will mark it up at an asking price of maybe $16000... but depending on the dealer, why should i sell you the car at $12500 or $13000?? Just to move the unit?? When they may know that they can sell it for $14500 quickly to someone else??
Also some advice, especially in used cars.. someone said "This is some good advice. Always remember: There is always another car, there's always another day."
While this is true, keep in mind the dealer can see your excitement about the Maxima. It's not like u just came shopping for anything, and said "oh i'll take this maxima for a drive." They know u came in off of searching a 5th gen maxima, stick, lower mileage, etc., etc.
If you come in NOT trying to make the salesman sell on price, but force him to sell "the used, 'possibly somebody else's headache', unsure if you really like the car" car.... then you may have a little bit more power in your corner
And as for the people who come in like "I'll pay in cash!!" thinking those words speak power, cash really doesnt mean a thing. Dealers will get paid regardless, and like someone else said, Cash deals prevent the dealer from making any Back-end gross thru F+I.
Good luck
07-18-2005, 07:54 AM
#28
Originally Posted by foobeca
Prolly not, they try to rip people off with F&I also. Usually dealers get a "referral fee" from banks they send loans to. If they are able to convince someone that that they have bad credit, when in reality they have good credit, they hit them up for a higher interest rate and the bank responds with a nicer referral fee.
. I walked and they tried to get me before i walked out but i just keep it moving. Went to the next dealership and got 4.5%. I am gonna buy a car from you and you wanna rip me off on the fiancing.....WTF
07-18-2005, 08:40 AM
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I did a search on cars.com and saw an '03 Max at Jim McKay Chevrolet with 26k miles with an asking price of $18,400. I believe it is about 50 miles from Baltimore area. It appears to be fully loaded, Bose, leather, dual power/memory seats, metal pedals, etc. It may even be a Titanium Ed. Check it out fast. Ed.
07-18-2005, 12:39 PM
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I just bought a 2002 glacier pearl, it had 36,500 miles on it. It was fully loaded with everything except leather. Everything was in awesome condition, except that the rotors were a little warped. My dad is a mechanic, so he looked over the car and said everthing was in great condition. They started out trying to sell it for 16,990. I walked out of the place and then like a week later they sold it to me for 15,200 or something like that. I got it at a Saturn dealer and the guy replaced the sunroof visor for me and put on new tires and the car already had new brakes on it.
07-18-2005, 03:43 PM
#34
Originally Posted by ArcticDC5
Hmmm, doesn't sound like I'll get the deal I am hoping for on this 5.5 around $13k if the asking price was $19k.
07-18-2005, 05:31 PM
#35
Originally Posted by ArcticDC5
Hmmm, doesn't sound like I'll get the deal I am hoping for on this 5.5 around $13k if the asking price was $19k.
I've been looking on ebay recently for an 02 and they go for 10.5-11k w/ 70-80k miles. The car you are talking about is not worth 19k nor 15k. In fact, there was a nice dark blue 6 speed in MD for $10,500 w/80k miles. It didn't have bose or a roof though.
$19k is outrageous when you can get a NEW Altima 3.5SE 5speed for $20.7k or a NEW Maxima 6spd for 24k at carsdirect.com.
07-18-2005, 05:40 PM
#37
Originally Posted by Mang
I bought my 03SE 6-speed with 11k miles for $16.5k. No leather, no sunroof, and no BLOWS. But my car did come with a Progress/KYB drop, strut bar, 01 smoked tails, LED interior, and super clean interior/exterior.
07-18-2005, 06:47 PM
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Well, this one I drove was the right color I want (mint green metallic), it was 6spd, had roof, cloth both of which I want and I could care less if it had Bose, which it did. I found a charcoal 6spd with 30k lower for 15k north of baltimore, so it is possible. I should just print out other maximas in the area for lower prices and kbb value printouts too.
07-18-2005, 08:22 PM
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definatly go with as much info as possible. Chances are the dealer hasn't seen too much interest on that car, so after seeing you come back a couple times they should work with your offers. Just keep everything simple, I tell ppl to do a "four square" method. Start with negotiating the cars price, then deal with your trade if you have one, then financing, then payments. dont deviate from that and you'll do well, it's when you try to rush or let take control of the negotiations do they screw you. If you do your homework you will know what you need out of your car, and what they need to sell theirs for to get your payment. Again never tell them where you want to be per month untill youve ironed out pricing on the car. If you are planning on financing the vehicle check your local banks and credit unions to see what rates you can get, if you finance through the dealer take what ever rate they give you and subtract 1.5 points ex. 10% = 8.5%, dealers will typically raise there rates to try to make up for money lost on a car. Too often will I see a customer go for hours negotiating only to get killed in F&I, also avoid any dealer added crap (paint sealer, fabric protection, etc).
Sorry to go on but hopefully you'll be able to pick up this rare Max!!!
Sorry to go on but hopefully you'll be able to pick up this rare Max!!!
07-19-2005, 01:47 PM
#40
Originally Posted by ArcticDC5
Well, this one I drove was the right color I want (mint green metallic), it was 6spd, had roof, cloth both of which I want and I could care less if it had Bose, which it did. I found a charcoal 6spd with 30k lower for 15k north of baltimore, so it is possible. I should just print out other maximas in the area for lower prices and kbb value printouts too.
are you kidding, 30k less miles= 2 more years of driving, go check it out man.