Does anyone have any experience with these I have never heard of them before im just curious if anyone is using them or had an opinion on them...

http://www.customenterprise.com/view.../vts/design017

 

vogts are a quality german spring, built on the same principles as h&r. progressive is the way to go too, linear springs are for fa'gboy ricers and sick handling racecars.

i just dont think anyone has tried these as of yet because people are scared of anything without maxspeed or tein printed on them. which are both garbage IMO.

 

I have nothing bad to say about both Eibach and Teins

 

progressive, means progressive damping? as in they get stiffer at shaprer turns?

 

So what do you guys think should I go for it and get them?

 

They get stiffer the more you compress them. Coils are spaced close together and get farther apart as you go down the spring. The spring compresses easily initially, then as coils start touching and the distance between them is reduced to zero, they get "dead". The more "dead" coils, the stiffer the spring becomes overall.

They will get "stiffer" on sharper turns....

 

Since no one else seems to have done it... I say do it and you can be the first...

 

ah-ha. so progressive springs are better than "linear"?
and... are h&rs progressive springs?

 

"Better" for what purpose? Progressive springs are good for daily driving because they retain good ride quality (like when the springs are lightly compressed) while allowing you to drive aggressively when desired (like when the car is driven hard and you reach the stiffer limits of the springs). I believe linear springs are sometimes used by drag or road racers because there is no need for the "soft" region, they can just get stiff springs that do the job.

As for H&Rs you can find out for yourself here:

http://www.hrsprings.com/site/index.html

 

I guess I also failed to mention that progressive springs are usually made of springs with 2 or more spring rates as well...

Some good reading here:

http://www.hrsprings.com/site/about/manufacturing.html

 

Tein, maybe. Maxspeed, hell no.

 

maxspeeds are real nice, had them for 25k miles. rides very smoothly and much stiffer than stock.

 

you can get those springs on ebay for much cheaper

 

talking to yourself again?

 

As always... where ya been, post *****?

 

oh out and about. What about you?

 

well then, I assume you're calling me (and my maxspeeds) a fa'gboy ricer, since I'm not quite at "sick handling racecar" stage at the moment....

....how ironic that a guy who was riding on air bags and chrome 19's is calling someone else a ricer

 

Alright well theres no need for any flaming here, I was just looking to see if anyone was using these springs and it doesnt seem like it so I might just have to give them a try. Hopefully they dont suck...

 

I think someone on the 5th gen for sale forums is selling these.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=424684

 

Yeah he lives near me and I was thinking of buying them from him, I was just looking for peoples opinions on them first.

 

couldn't pass up a response to his ignorant statement (since maxspeeds have a good ride and good handling)

...you might want to do a search...the subject of vogtland springs has been brought up a ton of times in the last couple of years....

 

I have them on my Max, they ride very smooth, I am impressed with them, much better than stock of course. Also it does make that wheel gap less of an issue. I wouldn't go all out and say that these are the best springs, cuz they aren't but I would say for the price you can't beat them. And there is a warranty with these as well I just never turned in the paper, lol. But you wouldn't be the first to have these. I am sure I am not either but my .02 is that you will get your moneys worth, I have a pic of my car, after the springs, lowered it around 1.7" in the front, 1.4" in the...http://www.cardomain.com/ride/675591/1 check out the pic of my car with the rims and notice the massive gap BEFORE springs, then notice how much the gap was reduced http://www.cardomain.com/ride/675591/3, all in all VERY WELL WORTH the $$

 

Do ya have any better pics of the drop? Just so people can get a better idea? Something like this:



That's my car on Progress springs... 1.8F and 1.5R....

 

No i don't at the moment, I will work on some though and send them to you or post them on here as soon as I can find my digital camera...

 

How would you compare the ride to stock, better, worse, the same?

 

I have them on my Max, they ride very smooth, I am impressed with them, ......................much better than stock of course................

and i quote

 

[high horse]
i am flattered that you remembered. i didn't even think maxspeeds were linear springs and wasn't jabbing anyone in particular. but to kid yourself into thinking the maxima should autocross, or road race, or handle corners like anything other than what it is- that my irish cousin is the definition of ricer. not airbags or chrome wheels. [/high horse]

 

is your car still on stock tires (225/50)? i held out on buying lowering springs and illuminas thinking there might be some sort of unseen rubbing issues with the stock tire height.

 

235/45/17s on the stock 17s....

 

hey just coming back at you. I frankly don't know if the maxspeeds are linear or not, truthfully. Their qualities have always made me assume they are though.....

btw, just calling you ricer for the sake of a comeback....it looked like you were calling out the maxspeeds in particular....

as to ricer....

rice = cheesy mods that do not improve either performance OR tasteful style. Tasteful, of course, is subjective depending on what you like.

by definition, any mod that improves performance cannot be rice.....

as to autocross, I do it for fun, not because I think i can take out sportscars. The maxima is the only car I can use for autocross right now (my two classic sportscars are in various stages of "not-put-together"), so I gotta use what I gotta use. I guarantee you my car handles and holds the road better than alot of so-called "sportscars" out there, but I'm under no impression that it's an S2000 or something.

...though I did beat TWO Evo8's at the last event....so take that for what it's worth

You may be the first person who's ever called my car "rice" though. Perhaps I'm flattered too

 

ok guys lets stop the flaming im trying to sell sum fecken springs

 

i put on h&r's in the front only last night, ran out of daylight to do the back. the wheelgap is about even in the front/back. i am not even sure if i will put the back springs on.

good reading about the springs on h&r's site, i am more edgemucated now.

 

I believe Housecor and some others have used lowering springs in the front only and kept the rears stock.... it looks fine to me, but I'm sure performance is affected somewhat... then again, it probably only matters if you're gonna be auto-xing or road racing.

 

Is there anywhere I can find pics of these rides. I'm looking for a more balanced/level look and actually thought about going with a similar type of setup. It seems that the only other possibility would be going with the S-techs which too me is too much of a drop for Atlanta roads.