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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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so is there anything that i can do on my 2002 for weight loss. Ive already got all the spare tire stuff out. i also got rid of the trunk carpeting but dont want to take out the back seat. i was maybe hoping someone would know of something else i could take out?
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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This is my version of weightloss going to the track....


Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Don't forget the jack. Also the floor mats. Of course only carry what gas you need.
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 6spd_Hayes
This is my version of weightloss going to the track....


omg that is so naked!
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
so is there anything that i can do on my 2002 for weight loss. Ive already got all the spare tire stuff out. i also got rid of the trunk carpeting but dont want to take out the back seat. i was maybe hoping someone would know of something else i could take out?
take off that ugly body kit and joing weight watchers or jenny craig
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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that body kit weighs less than the original bumpers did and not having bumpers is illegal...
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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haha he meant put it back to stock bumpers.....im not really feelin those, but its not my car so it doesnt matter.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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Second that, body kits are not my style, but hey, its ur car, do with it what u like, and if we don't like it tough ****, its not ours. I guess?
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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Second that, body kits are not my style, but hey, its ur car, do with it what u like, and if we don't like it tough ****, its not ours. I guess?
I'm on Hoopers side. He does what he likes, that kit doesn't tickle me but that doesn't matter.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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what about the rear door panels, speakers, sub, theres a plate behind the plastic shroud on the rear seat, seatbelts, you can even remove the rear section of the exhaust. but now you have about 75-80% weight upfront
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 6spd_Hayes
This is my version of weightloss going to the track....


what about the rear door panels, speakers, sub, theres a plate behind the plastic shroud on the rear seat, seatbelts, you can even remove the rear section of the exhaust. but now you have about 75-80% weight upfront
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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Light weight wheels make a significant difference as well. More than enough to make up for that horrible body kit.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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easy on the body kit. most think it looks good, ill take their stance thank you very much.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 6spd_Hayes
This is my version of weightloss going to the track....


my god your car is straight up naked now. damn. i dunno what else you can do besides doing what 6spd did to his car and also the wheels. o i know the hood go CF? and that body kit not my likings but hey to each their own
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Seeing that you do not want to take out the rear seat... then you're done and have gone as far as you need to.

A good way is to replace the exhaust manifolds with headers... The stock units are heavy iron boat anchors.


That body kit will probably cause more drag, even though they don't weigh as much as the stock units, still cancel out the gain, if any.


BTW, nice work Hayes
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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im hoping your taking this stuff out for just a day.....if not what happens when ur on the side of the road with a flat and no way to get anywhere.. so please tell me this is just for a 1/4 mile or something...
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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so please tell me this is just for a 1/4 mile or something...
Anything less would be uncivalized
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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uve got the easy stuff done, the rest is kinda useless imo. im in the process of doing a hardcore wegith recution on my other car, ive done everything from removing the domelights, down to scraping off all the sound deading. ac, and everything not needed. but that car is only used for the track use.

want to save a good chunk of weight remove the AC system. have fun with that tho.

everyhitng that u pull out has a purpose, small as they may seem sometimes. not having a spare or jack can get u in real trouble. is it worth the weight savings?
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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yeh, well i ran 4 tenths quicker so i guess what i did helped with the new y-pipe and timing advance. thanks to everyone who wasnt a ******* and ruining this thread with negative comments.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
Ive already got all the spare tire stuff out. i also got rid of the trunk carpeting
That was equal to .4 ?


Whatever it was, it was not the weight reduction if that's all you did. ^^
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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so you pulled out roughly 400 lbs of weight? or you got a slightly better 60' time.



dump the body kit into the trash, reinstall the stock pieces, remove seats, all interior carpeting, scrape every last bit of deadening off (there are 3 layers of the crap under the rear seats) and reinstall all seats and carpet.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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no, the .4 seconds was equal to the weight loss and a y-pipe plus advanced timing, thats it though
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Maybe you should've said it that way the 1st time
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yeh, well i ran 4 tenths quicker so i guess what i did helped
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no, the .4 seconds was equal to the weight loss and a y-pipe plus advanced timing, thats it though
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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maybe i did, read it again
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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I can read it until I'm blue in the face... But the fact remains...In your first post you made no mention of adding a y-pipe...

Originally Posted by Hoooper
so is there anything that i can do on my 2002 for weight loss. Ive already got all the spare tire stuff out. i also got rid of the trunk carpeting but dont want to take out the back seat. i was maybe hoping someone would know of something else i could take out?
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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oooo that one, well adding a y-pipe has nothing to do with weight reduction. i included it in my post about the better time.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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oooo that one, well adding a y-pipe has nothing to do with weight reduction. i included it in my post about the better time.
To a small degree it does have an advantage, and even moreso if you go with the entire header system...


You made mention that it all helped, in this thread, where I do not believe the weight savings you did had as much affect as you stated it did (.4)

The y-pipe probably helped the most..

So what's your new time? 14.3,
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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How about removing the cruise control. Maybe it's not that heavy but it is definitely something that most people never use... so why keep it?
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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14.34, and i used the cruise control both on the way there and on the way back.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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dont underestimate weight reduction, u can go crazy. replace the windows with lexan or plexi, theres a lot of weight saved.

all depends on what ur doing the savings for,and how much u want to spend carbon is ur friend, u can save like 40lbs i think on a hood alone. but its $$$

if its for 1/4mile i suppose u could go with spares for the rear. but im not sure how safe that is.

airbags can weight alot as well as our stock front seats.

trunk supports and strengthening weight alot too, but thats rather extreme to have ur trunk pinned on.

lightweight pulleys and flywheels are good too. rotational mass and everything

theres alot u can do. it just depends on what u can live without.
honestly on my car the floor was rusted so most was removed and is being replaced with aluminum plating. i dont even have weather stripping anymore, that stuffs rather heavy. seatbelt recoilers as well as window motors. and the dash, that things not a feather. just start pulling the little things out, itll all add up.

when i started i weighted everything i pulled out, in one day i dropped almost 500 lbs. my goal is to take my 3500lb car to 2300without a cage. im gonna go all out on this, but i couldnt do it to my max, i need it for daily driving.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Ditch your P/S belt, and by-pass the A/C . Not weight reduction, but something simple to help gain a tenth ..
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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You could also remove the lower part of your rear seat (the one you are actually sitting on) just for the race. The are only two clips that keep it there. 5 sec to take off and 5 seconds to put it back on.

Also, if you are willing to take the risk you can take off ABS and probably your heater. I doubt you guys use heaters in California.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
that body kit weighs less than the original bumpers did and not having bumpers is illegal...
i don't think the point was weight, but the fact that the large, flat front end of that kit definitely has more wind resistance than a stock bumper. Every one of those openings creates wind drag, even the "vents" on the side. Kits are for looks, and usually harm performance (except for lips and splitters, which are useful for downforce when road racing).

more wind resistance = slower times

since you didn't ask, I won't comment on my opinions as to whether the kit looks good or not....it's your car!
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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well ive run quarters before and after the kit just to find out that there is no difference at all, cept maybe a couple thousandths. i could have taken the seat out, but then the guys i was with might have to carry it around for a while...
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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well ive run quarters before and after the kit just to find out that there is no difference at all, cept maybe a couple thousandths. i could have taken the seat out, but then the guys i was with might have to carry it around for a while...
....there are far too many variables in 1/4 mile racing that effect times to say with certainty that there is a negligible difference (wind, temperature, fuel quality, tire wear/traction, etc). Unless you made these runs within a few minutes of each other (changing the bumper at the track) the test is less than scientific.

nobody is saying you have to take the kit off, but you're the one who is trying to save small fractions of time here with minor weight reductions. minor drag reductions are just another small part of making the car that much faster.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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yeh. i was more of thinking something that might put me up to 100lbs from what it was before. but i already went so its really a moot thread now. i was lookin for something that might get me 2 or 3 hundredths, not 2 or 3 thousandths. thanks tho
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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yeh. i was more of thinking something that might put me up to 100lbs from what it was before. but i already went so its really a moot thread now. i was lookin for something that might get me 2 or 3 hundredths, not 2 or 3 thousandths. thanks tho
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'nuff said.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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the kit wont make a difference at the track....not at a high enough speed for long enough time.


it still makes 95% of us puke.
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 05:45 AM
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Unless you are going for a dedicated track car, removing most parts is not a wise option. The spare tire and jack make sense because they do weigh a bit and are easy to remove. The rear seat does not weigh much at all.

You would see more more gains (than a couple thou) by reducing rotation inertia, i.e. lighter wheels and tires and flywheel. Not sure what your wheels are in dia (guess- 18"?) but definitely a light 16" or even 17" would be better. Big wheels look good but are rarely light and most people do not realize that they actually slow the car down.

Not sure were you were in RPM during your run, but even a slightly smaller dia. tire would make acceleration faster.
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