I just recently bought my 02 SE and I knew when i got it that it had been in a light front end collision. The repair work is very good, there was no structural damage. The gaps are good, no visible evidence. You can see only one part of the radiator support that was bent a little and was put back in shape. BUT...... I thought it was strange that the car didnt have foglights. I figured no big deal, i can always get some later.
sooooo.........
Do all SE's come with foglights? Another question is do ALL 02 SE's come with HID lights standard? Im trying to figure out if maybe what it is was that whoever fixed the car was super cheap. Im pretty pissed now that i see all these members cars on here with HIDs.

 

All SEs came with fogs, GXEs did not. All 02s came with standard HIDs, GXEs included. They may have went cheap for just the money aspect or may have went with standard lights since the HIDs in these cars are notoriously prone to theft. At least that's what I have read in the literature available.

 

Probably charged the insurance company for the HIDs and went cheap. There is a BIG price difference.

 

I would take it back to wherever you bought it and tell them you want the OEM lights, since they gave you the 00-01 non-HID lights...

 

Did you get a carfax? That sucks man because all 02-03 came standard with hid's. Post up pics I want to see if they gave you the 00-01 headlights and if there is anything else we can notice.

 

yep if you dont have hid'ss they probably charged the insurence for HID's (1300$ at courtesy nissan) and gave you the 00-01 non-hid's

 

DId you get this from a dealer or private party?

 

Looks like you got screwed twice. If you bought the car as is, there may not be much you can do about it. Good luck.

 

bump same question

 

When did you buy the car? Does the state of GA have a cooling off period?

 

They could of been stolen and just replaced with the standard headlights. But who knows.

 

yeah i definitely got screwed on the headlights!!!... the foglights im not so worried about. I bought the car from a private seller and i bought it with cash. I did get a real good deal however. The car has only 43k on it and is in excellent condition inside and out. Good paint, brand new ZR rated tires, perfect interior. I got the guy down to $12,500. Ill see if i can get some pictures. If only I had known that they all come with HIDs! now i wonder what i should do to get some. I might have to do what all you 00-01 guys are doing and go aftermarket. I cant afford $1300!

 

Oh, also could you guys give me some advice on what do about getting foglights too? All i seem to see for sale on ebay is the fogs for 00-01 and i assume they wont work? Anyone have any for sale that will fit my car? or know where to get some? I would like OEM or some aftermarket that fits well/looks clean would be great too.

 

First thing post some pics of the front end so we can tell you exactly what you have.

Second, call Dave Burnett (sp?) and get a price for OEM fogs. (888) 254 - 6060. I think that is his correct #.

Since you bought a SE and thought that you were receiving everything that came on a SE but didn't; I would try to get the seller to purchase and install the fogs and HIDs.

 

$600 is all you need.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-03...64539776QQrdZ1

 

Fog lights and possible HID headlights:
http://www.logical-source.com/Search...XIMA&Year=2002

 

Get the HIDs off eBay, they're always a few on there, and you could prolly get them for $300-400 if you try. Before I got my 02, I was looking at a 2000 and I knew I wanted the OEM HIDs. I watched a lot of auctions and the lights usually for for under $200, sometimes with ballasts and bulbs. If you're worried about buying stolen ones, ask the seller where they got them and why they're selling, and if you don't like what they say, keep waiting and you will find one. I woud get OEM ones, but there are a pair of depots on there for like $600. Same thing with the fogs, check eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...39364436QQrdZ1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...62632524QQrdZ1 Aftermarkt replicas

 

You might want to check those Ebay Headlights, make sure they are not stolen

 

i second that

 

Other than for moral reasons, is there any other reason not to buy if they are stolen? and how would i know or be able to find out anyway?

By the way thank you for your advice everyone. I am worried about the wiring too, now that ive really looked at it.... someone rigged up the wiring for the 00-01 headlights pretty crappy. I just realized that the high beams dont even work. THIS SUCKS

PS Has anyone done aftermarket foglights on a 02-03?

 

Ask to see detailed pics of the lights. If they are stolen, the plastic tabs will usually be broken off.

 

That's a very good way to tell but I've seen people who take them off break them, too. Can you tell the difference between lights the people take out of salvages, their own cars, etc. and just break them doing it vs. the stolen ones? I've wondered this many times and is the primary reason why I've not bought a set to toy around with.

 

Do you have to buy a wiring harness for those ebay OEM lights? I wanna get some too but i know courtesy sells a harness spearate from the lights, if you buy the housing, bulbs and ballasts is that all you need?

 

Hella Optilux 2500 not an exact fit like factory replacement, but..............

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=465097

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hella...spagenameZWDVW

 

you paid too much for that car. i jus passed over on a 2002 se wit 51k miles for only $12.5k

 

well apparently in the atlanta area that was a good price. most of the 02-03 with less than 50k on them were in the area of $14k to $16k. Like i said it took a month to find this car. It is below book value as it only has 43k miles and is in excellent condition inside and out. This little headlight/foglight issue is a b**** however. But the fogs should be about $100 for OEM and the headlights well.... maybe less than $500 if i ebay some possibly stolen ones ugh.

About the fogs, im am interested in those aftermarket lights but concerned about wiring them up, seems like it will be difficult. How to know what wire is what you know.

 

you can buy the HID harness plugs from the dealership i've seen them on sale before online let me see if i can find it again.

 

here we go, just found it:

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...de=24009-A33HK

 

damn, so you have 01 headlights on there? did you already know that or no? it is a good price, but still, i would feel ripped off.

 

hmm i dont' think the ebay ones are oem eh? they're problly oem like ones but still better than nothing i guess.

when i was searching for the maxima i did my research and i knew i wanted hids so i know how those headlights looked hah plus i check them out at the dealer before i bought it. but ya i would feel ripped off tho =/ that private seller is sneaky haha

 

no i didnt realize that i had 01 headlights....therefore i DO feel ripped off! I didnt know that all 02 maximas had those different lights. Now that i do, the difference is night and day. Every time i see a 02-03 on the road im pissed.
Guess i shoulda got on this site BEFORE i bought the car, not after.

Apparently im going to have to buy harnesses as well in order to do the headlights. You guys should see the BS wiring job that is done to get the 01 headlights in there. I cant believe i didnt notice when i was looking the car over. guess i was too busy looking for signs of damage repairs on the body(which are minimal).

 

Check out pics of my weird 02 SE... www.cardomain.com/id/mdpsNisMax

 

This site may be of use to you. You can download the FSM for your Maxima from here. It may help you re-wire your headlight and foglight.

http://phatg20.net/modules.php?name=...ownload&cid=65

I assume you found the headlights and fogs on ebay? If not just do a search under 02 Maxima in eBay. The seller who has the OEM headlights can be found on page 6 of teh search. If you scroll back from there, you will also find fog ligts for your max.

Good luck.

 

u know what, i was excited about my car having the HIDs also but now i am like , eeeh. u dont get to see them, u r driving. u might like the blue shade though. i say go with cool blue bulbs for now. see if u like it.
see if u can find the cool light greenish color (like the caribbean waters).

one more thing, HIDs have certain number of hours that they last for, so if u buy used from ebay, they might die on u anyday. well thats something to consider.

 

Since you dont like your HID's I'll trade you my '00 stocks for your HID's...if it will make you feel better!

 

I have mixed feelings about the fogs, or "driving lights" if you will. If you're interested in seeing the road to a max of maybe 5 feet infront of the car, then they're great. Other than that, they're strictly an appearance item....

Since both of mine now have cracked lenses from rocks, I've been thnking about another way to use the space. I guess those who were extremely aggresive drivers or spent time on a road course would maybe throw in some brake cooling ducts.

 

I've also heard that some use the empty fog bays to duct cold air into their CAI

 

qballjr13,

haha.
u r not getting my HIDs.