My VIAS is broken, what should I do?
#1
My VIAS is broken, what should I do?
Ok guys, I know for sure my VIAS is broken.
I went 1/4 mile drag racing at the track for the first time yesterday and I finally put down some times for my Maxipad.
1st run:
16.1 @ 89 mph (launched 2500rpm, spun thru first gear with no traction)
2nd run:
15.5 @ 90 mph (launched 2000rpm and bogged off the line slow)
3rd run:
15.3 @ 91 mph (pretty solid launch with instant traction)
Now, according to Steven88, my trap speed isn't correct. There has to be something up with my car because stock VQ30DE-K maximas run with a trap speed of around 92-94mph.
I noticed that my VIAS isn't pulling hard in the high rpm's.
Now my question is, what should I do:
1) JB weld that thing and have it work again, or
2) leave the power valve open and get MEGA high end while suffering low end loss.
I went 1/4 mile drag racing at the track for the first time yesterday and I finally put down some times for my Maxipad.
1st run:
16.1 @ 89 mph (launched 2500rpm, spun thru first gear with no traction)
2nd run:
15.5 @ 90 mph (launched 2000rpm and bogged off the line slow)
3rd run:
15.3 @ 91 mph (pretty solid launch with instant traction)
Now, according to Steven88, my trap speed isn't correct. There has to be something up with my car because stock VQ30DE-K maximas run with a trap speed of around 92-94mph.
I noticed that my VIAS isn't pulling hard in the high rpm's.
Now my question is, what should I do:
1) JB weld that thing and have it work again, or
2) leave the power valve open and get MEGA high end while suffering low end loss.
#3
Originally Posted by MaxBoost925
Ok guys, I know for sure my VIAS is broken.
I went 1/4 mile drag racing at the track for the first time yesterday and I finally put down some times for my Maxipad.
1st run:
16.1 @ 89 mph (launched 2500rpm, spun thru first gear with no traction)
2nd run:
15.5 @ 90 mph (launched 2000rpm and bogged off the line slow)
3rd run:
15.3 @ 91 mph (pretty solid launch with instant traction)
Now, according to Steven88, my trap speed isn't correct. There has to be something up with my car because stock VQ30DE-K maximas run with a trap speed of around 92-94mph.
I noticed that my VIAS isn't pulling hard in the high rpm's.
Now my question is, what should I do:
1) JB weld that thing and have it work again, or
2) leave the power valve open and get MEGA high end while suffering low end loss.
I went 1/4 mile drag racing at the track for the first time yesterday and I finally put down some times for my Maxipad.
1st run:
16.1 @ 89 mph (launched 2500rpm, spun thru first gear with no traction)
2nd run:
15.5 @ 90 mph (launched 2000rpm and bogged off the line slow)
3rd run:
15.3 @ 91 mph (pretty solid launch with instant traction)
Now, according to Steven88, my trap speed isn't correct. There has to be something up with my car because stock VQ30DE-K maximas run with a trap speed of around 92-94mph.
I noticed that my VIAS isn't pulling hard in the high rpm's.
Now my question is, what should I do:
1) JB weld that thing and have it work again, or
2) leave the power valve open and get MEGA high end while suffering low end loss.
#4
Originally Posted by SDR
JB weld it, no doubt about it. It took me 15 min to do and my Maxima has never felt better. You dont want to leave the power valve open thats for sure.
#5
Originally Posted by sloppymax
why do you recommend not leaving the power valve out? im just curious.
kind of defeats the purpose of the VIAS. Having it completely open at all times would hurt low end. The vias lets the optimum amount of air in for each rpm range. but I dont have the experience of having mine JB welded open, Im only going by what Ive researched on the org.
#6
Originally Posted by SinCityMaxPower
kind of defeats the purpose of the VIAS. Having it completely open at all times would hurt low end. The vias lets the optimum amount of air in for each rpm range. but I dont have the experience of having mine JB welded open, Im only going by what Ive researched on the org.
#8
i know that i lost 15 ftlbs to the wheels across the board with it out, and then when it didn't work i put 171 hp, and with it out i put down 192. i don't really like not haveing the torque. i'll put mine back in and fix it. i would say fix it, but that's just me. maybe you should just take it out for a few days see if you like and if not fix it. it's not that hard to do. just my .02
#12
I just could not get the dang thing open cause the screws are impossible to get to. I cant believe it only took you 15 minutes to do it. I spent an hour trying to figure it out then I quit. Any secrets to getting the job done from some of you guys who have done it a few times?
#13
i took the intake off, and used vise grips on the screws. that was my trick, when i go to put it back in i'm going to find some other type of bolt that will work instead of the damn screws. there are two on top that are really easy to get, the only hard one is the one by the throttle body and you can just take it off. it wasn't that hard to me
#15
Originally Posted by FriscoMaxima
The funny thing is that i fixed my vias with JB weld, and i did not really notice any change... maybe because i am an automatic?...
#16
Originally Posted by sloppymax
then maybe when you reinserted the power valve then the clock (position) of the valve was incorrect. if the position is incorrect then it will rotate into the wrong stage either closed or open during the intended fucntion. it is a noticeable difference if it was indeed broken to begin. i am auto as well and noticed a huge difference above 5k rpms. sorry, i didnt take any pics during the removal.
#17
ok, heres my timeslip:
Left---
Car#...293
Class...HS
DIAL... 15.50
R/T... .345
60'... 2.336
330'... 6.481
1/8... 9.915
MPH... 71.56
1000'... 12.873
MPH...
1/4... 15.356
MPH... 90.57
Left 1st 1.1097
Right MOV 1.1677
Compulink AUTOSTART ON!!
Both lanes STAGED @ Starter GO
Left---
Car#...293
Class...HS
DIAL... 15.50
R/T... .345
60'... 2.336
330'... 6.481
1/8... 9.915
MPH... 71.56
1000'... 12.873
MPH...
1/4... 15.356
MPH... 90.57
Left 1st 1.1097
Right MOV 1.1677
Compulink AUTOSTART ON!!
Both lanes STAGED @ Starter GO
#20
Originally Posted by wanaMax
I just could not get the dang thing open cause the screws are impossible to get to. I cant believe it only took you 15 minutes to do it. I spent an hour trying to figure it out then I quit. Any secrets to getting the job done from some of you guys who have done it a few times?
#22
Originally Posted by SDR
The low-end losses completely offset the high-end gains.
#26
Originally Posted by upstatemax
I think I am going to let my extended warranty fix it.
Good luck on that you will be the first one to have a dealership preform this. Many people have tried taking it to a dealership and have them do it. Nobosy to my knowledge has been successfull but one person. The funny thing is they didnt even fix it they just put on another new faulty VAIS lol. I have a question myself though I will be performing this fix next weekend. I have opened up teh Vais to see what I am up against I have one question though. Using these pics as referrence
When you are inserting the spring in the JB weld do you insure that the interior of the spring has no weld coming in to it. The reason I askthis is the power rod has to go though the spring. Do you have to insure that the whole length of the interior of the spring is JB Weld free or can a little get in. Thanks for the input next week when I do this I will do a full write up.
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