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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 06:29 AM
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Here is the Answer to our safc/vafc debate

check this out,..... I will have one soon
http://www.apexi-usa.com/news_article.asp?id=15
also check it out in the current issue of sport compact car for August when it comes out ( got the subscription,... got it early)


Now we can have our cake,.... and eat it too (safc and vafc function in one unit)
Old Jun 17, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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HOT, D'AMN...that's a nice looking unit~
Old Jun 17, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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Vacf did everything Safc did anyways

SO really this is a new Vafc
Old Jun 17, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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just save the $100 or so and stick with the V-AFCII....this is old news @ the all motor forums...and I remember running a search on flea bay....these puppies run for about $100 more than a V-AFCII....the V-AFCII still has 24 points of tuning versus 16 points on this AFC NEO...

Question is...do you want less points of tuning...more cost to purchase this unit....and a prettier display...for $100 more?
Old Jun 17, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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The visibility on the display unit is easier to read,....nuf sd
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by doc2278
The visibility on the display unit is easier to read,....nuf sd
But 99.9% of the time there is no need to read it. I have a safc-II and that has never been an issue. But its your choice just giving my input
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vq356sp
But 99.9% of the time there is no need to read it. I have a safc-II and that has never been an issue. But its your choice just giving my input

I can appreciate that for sure.........
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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lol, i will vouch for vq356sp....i mean, i don't look at my vafcii ever...i mean, sometimes i get a kick out of it...looking at how much throttle % to gain X amount of forward thrust...typically i see about 25% throttle to gain enough thrust to pass traffic...funny thing is...sometimes i wanna go fast...then i get on the pedal (but not WOT)...and i check my vafcii to see how much thr % i'm putting in...and it only reads like 50%...but i'm still hauling a$$
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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i cant wait till i see that on my vafcII......and down goes wade
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:13 PM
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just save the $100 or so and stick with the V-AFCII....this is old news @ the all motor forums...and I remember running a search on flea bay....these puppies run for about $100 more than a V-AFCII....the V-AFCII still has 24 points of tuning versus 16 points on this AFC NEO...

Question is...do you want less points of tuning...more cost to purchase this unit....and a prettier display...for $100 more?
but do you actually need all of those points
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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but do you actually need all of those points
I think so...I mean my baseline was pretty rich...all throughout...not just upper RPMs....so with 24 points, I can work with any RPM range....maybe if my AFR was only rich in the upper RPMs...the S-AFCII 12 points would be coo...but not in my car's case
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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From past experiences of some members it has been noted that the VQ35 likes a FLAT A/F 'curve'.

That coupled with an extended rev limiter, and more points start looking better and better.
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Well it will probly send the price of it's brother/sister units down.
Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by spdfreak
Well it will probly send the price of it's brother/sister units down.
there's always a '+' side t every situation..
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