MyBlue02

okay i here some people stating that hte rear sway bar upgrade for hte maxima can be a little dagerous in the fact that the rear has a tendancy to "fishtail" a little more when pushing hte car in a turn...so my concern is in the winter with a/s tires for much worse in the "fishtailing" (yes, i know its FWD!!!)

i did sways on my gtp and in the winter the rear wanted to walk out every now and then...depending on the turn and snow pack.

thanks
(have a stillen FSTB, and thinking stillen RSB, later on koni/ebaich)
tires = yohko avide v4s on stock se rims (225/50/17)

max723

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not sure on the 5th gen but i read an article about an sti setup (full sways, shocks, etc) and they ran it on a track for a comparison on a wet day. they said the rear was to stiff and the car though would have handled great on a dry track was all over the place with the conditions caused by the rain. i would think something similar would happen if you pushed the car hard in the winter but not if you drive carefully, especially with the snow you get upstate.

irish44j

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I didn't have any problem in the snow with RSB (and LTB, Springs, Struts, etc)

DrKlop

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I don't think you ganna have any problems in the winter.
Here's the way I see it:

In the winter traction is so low that suspension makes a very little affect on the behavior of the car. So, the car will simply understeer because the front is much heavier than the rear.

I haven't driven with RSB in the snow yet, but comparing dry and wet weather cornering this theory seems to work.

MyBlue02

thats what i thought too, but in the gtp after the install the i could make the rear swing out at about 20-30 with a jerk of the wheel (controlable), but i guess they are 2 completly different suspensions setups, chasie.

now my next question is which is the better sway bar "stillen" or "catman/progress" ?

just looking for a "flatter" more responsive ride.


thanks

sciff5

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To be honest... wtf.. you gotta be crazy to be pushing your car in the snow unless your trying to get it to drift in which case tail out fun sounds great to me. Go slow in the snow. I spun my old camry twice in the snow, once was at highway speed into a guardrail. (funny thing is the car survived after that 55 mph impact and was driven that way for 1.5 years afterwards, without needing an alignment after the accident)

Puppetmaster

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If you know the limits of your car, esp in winter conditions, you will never have a problem with a RSB.

super6

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no problems here, common this is FWD here.

BEJAY1

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Just yank off the RSB every winter like me. You're not gonna need the cornering power usually and it makes for a great chance to inspect for wear.

MyBlue02

i have no plans on pusging hte car in the winter. just a question i read in another thread that a member was on a on/off ramp, hit a bump, and hte rear hopped out on him slightly (dry pavement).

just a concern was all

KyMan

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Take a Nissan Micra 175km/hr and the whole car will hop sideways on those metal concrete connectors, even in dry conditions.

It all depends on the conditions (car speed, roads, tires). I bet that you would adjust to having the rsb on very quickly in your snow driving. Tires will make way more difference than a rsb will.

bigEL

The first time I drove in light snow with my RSB, I experienced some fishtailing and snap oversteer. It was on wide open roads and I was intentionally trying to figure out the limits of how well my car would handle in the winter. I must say that the car handled pretty well overall, and that was with the notorious stock Potenzas. Since then, I've switched to Falkens and haven't had any concerns.

spdfreak

Well from what I understand a good reason why the sti went crazy on the wet track is it's an AWD (and the rear wheels caused it to kick sideways).

About wich bar to buy, Progress is running a pretty good sale on a bar.
Heres the link: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=472726

max723

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i think this should answer your question. with controlled driving (shouldnt be pushing your cars limits in winter anyway) and correct tires youu be ok. cannot emphasize correct tires enough, one time it snowed early in mid oct before i got home the few days before i was supposed to take my rims off. ad to drive n snow on khumo summer tires. i got about 1 block before i pulled over and left the car to come back another day because it was a 2500+ lb sled with no control.

SEmy2K2go

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Where did you "hear" this nonsense?

max723

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it happened to me i didnt hear it

SEmy2K2go

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Speaking in regards to the original post. Sorry for the confusion.

Rocket3004

I don't know about you guys, but I have driven FWD, AWD (quattro, i.e. torsen) and RWD cars in the winter here in MI, and to be honest, a little oversteer is not only fun, but IMO allows for a little bit more control (if done correctly). With the FWD car, in my experience, no matter how you turn the wheel you just plow forward, which is good if you are going in a straight line, but bad if you are trying to turn (or get out of a turn).