5th Gen / 5.5 Gen Header Thread
Originally Posted by knight_yyz
i have cattman 3.0 headers on my 3.5 because there was a miscommunication. I had to buy a plug for the egr valve. Ports are the same.
bty that is going to be freeking loud!!
bty that is going to be freeking loud!!
That's what I'm going for. I have all of these morons with crapstangs and junk cars like that around me with "exhausts". I'm fixing to make them all look like pansies
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Originally Posted by MaxBoost925
Are you sure dude? Me and Steven88 both had bend it on our cars.
Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
I'm pretty sure I'd remember having to intentionally bend a motor mount bracket, lol. Nope, didn't have to do it.
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Originally Posted by steven88
thats weird...maybe you worked from the top and bottom? cuz we worked completely from the bottom of the car
Originally Posted by 03MAXTNR
is there anyway the motor can fall out if the center member is removed?
My motor was hanging by 1 motormount, I had to place a jack under it to keep it secured.
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Originally Posted by 03MAXTNR
is there anyway the motor can fall out if the center member is removed?
Some people play it safe by putting a jack or jack stand under the tranny, but as long as the side mounts are secure, you don't really need to.
Originally Posted by OOmaxSE
For my header install, didn't bend any motor mounts. I completely took off the front and rear motor mounts on the cross member. Unless you guys are talking about 3.5L.
Towards the middle of the write up.....http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=385360
Originally Posted by huffdaddy2008
We bent the mount brackets not the mounts themselves. 3.0 or 3.5, Maxboost and Blackbirdvq both have 3.0's and they had to bend their brackets.
Towards the middle of the write up.....http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=385360
Towards the middle of the write up.....http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=385360
hahaha thank Puppetmaster. Its on the first page. Its on Puppet's install tips then theres a link in there to Blackbird's write up, just wanted you to do your research so that YOU found it.
P.S. I heart tequila
P.S. I heart tequila
Originally Posted by Puppetmaster
I didn't have to bend any motor mounts for my install. Once you remove the center member, you can tilt the motor backwards and will be able to reach the bolts on the rear header. Removing the IM will also help getting to the upper bolts from above.
I always remove the cross member, it makes this job much easier than removing the intake manifold. You CAN reuse your stock exhaust manifold gaskets AT the head, they are metal- vs the cheap stuff that comes with your new headers that will eventually leak.
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Cattmans gaskets are very nice. Metal.
That depends on what Generation the Cattmans are... Whoever supplied the headers (made them), supplied the gaskets.
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
If they were the first sets, there are no quality issues. Mine have been on for quite a while issue less.
Yeah, the first ones were supposed to be good, but the next batches were hit and miss I guess.
Originally Posted by upstatemax
Yeah, the first ones were supposed to be good, but the next batches were hit and miss I guess. 

Gen 1 = best, proven HP
Gen 2 = less hp, quality issues?
Gen 3 = not proven yet.
I called the stealership for prices on oem gaskets for my header install and he said i needed a plenum gasket as well. I dont know what the heck hes talking about. Let me get this strait. will the stock oem gaskets on my car be ok to reuse. He quoted around 70 dollars for new gaskets and that seems pretty high. Can someone tell me what gaskets i need to make sure i have the right ones. are the supplied gaskets in the hotshot kit any good?
Originally Posted by 03MAXTNR
I called the stealership for prices on oem gaskets for my header install and he said i needed a plenum gasket as well. I dont know what the heck hes talking about. Let me get this strait. will the stock oem gaskets on my car be ok to reuse. He quoted around 70 dollars for new gaskets and that seems pretty high. Can someone tell me what gaskets i need to make sure i have the right ones. are the supplied gaskets in the hotshot kit any good?
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The plenum gasket is what goes between the intake manifold lower collector and the intake manifold; you only need this if you are taking off the lower collector (and we usually loosely use the term intake manifold or IM around here to describe it). That being said, I didn't replace the plenum gasket when I did that. The Cattman headers that I bought came with copper gaskets for the exhaust manifolds, but if yours didn't, new OEM exhaust manifold gaskets are good enough.
I've heard that the Hotshot gaskets suck, so I wouldn't use those.
I've heard that the Hotshot gaskets suck, so I wouldn't use those.
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Originally Posted by 03MAXTNR
where can i get good gaskets that will fit the hotshot headers? if i cant figure this out them im going to have to cancel the install.
I just installed my headers and id have to say that the install wasnt to bad. it took about 6.5 hours to complete. I did run into a problem with one rusted bolt. It was on the cat converter. i had to cut off the nut and bolt on each side and then drill it out. Other than that it wasnt bad. the headers did smoke a bit when i first started them up due to them being ceramic coated but it went away after they were cured. One thing i missed was the wot i had with just an intake and stock headers. Now that the headers are on, you loose some of the intake growl but gain a little tone in the cabin.
Im very impressed with the power gain, as i was able to hit third gear burning rubber with an auto from a dead stop.
Im very impressed with the power gain, as i was able to hit third gear burning rubber with an auto from a dead stop.
mine came with the same, no problems....
Originally Posted by 03MAXTNR
the ones im worried about are between the headers and the y pipe. My hotshot kit came with these 1/4 inch squishy gaskets. i want some metal ones.
Just got my ssautochrome headers. The y-pipe is well constructed and clean. The headers are fairly good, some bits from welding got stuck inside a couple vents and it could've been ground down better in spots (I'll take care of that though). As long as the fitment is good, that's $273 well spent.
Finally installed my HotShots today. They had been sitting in my garage for about a year, so I figured it was about time to install them. Everything went really smooth until I got to the cat bolts. One sheared off and the other one got rounded off because I was being stupid. So I had to drill them out and slap some new ones in. Started it up and sounded like everything was good. Haven't drove it yet cause it was pretty late when I got done. Total install time took me about 10 hours due to my stupidity, but eh, live and learn, right?
Originally Posted by machinehead131
Has anyone had clearance issues with the front primary o2 sensor hitting??
HS's o2 bung is in one of the primaries, not the collector itself, so
IMO, I would relocate that bung into the collector. With that said, you may need to extend the primary o2 wire to that sensor for that bung.
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Not with the Gen I Cattmans.
HS's o2 bung is in one of the primaries, not the collector itself, so
IMO, I would relocate that bung into the collector. With that said, you may need to extend the primary o2 wire to that sensor for that bung.
HS's o2 bung is in one of the primaries, not the collector itself, so
IMO, I would relocate that bung into the collector. With that said, you may need to extend the primary o2 wire to that sensor for that bung.
Originally Posted by OOmaxSE
How necessary is it to relocate to the collectors? It makes more sense to have it at the collectors to me, but I do know that the stock manifolds have o2 bungs at the primaries. It probably makes a difference in a performance aspect?
Originally Posted by machinehead131
I was wondering more based on clearance issues.
Originally Posted by OOmaxSE
I relocated the front o2 sensor before installation. I knew and read about the clearance issues so I can't vouch. But many others have that issue. $50 to relocate and plug up the old bung at most shops.
What do you do just sand off the coating where the bung is going to go and weld it on there?
Where exactly should i get mine welded?



