Installed one wire out of the "Big 3" and wow....
08-06-2006, 07:44 PM
#1
Installed one wire out of the "Big 3" and wow....
So finally heeding the recommendation of Metal Maxima, and others who said a single 1/0 gauge wire from the chassis to the battery is > multiple small wires running everywhere, I installed one. The single wire is essentially one out of the Big 3 upgrade. I used 3 ft. of Stinger SX050S Expert Series wire, with 4284 strands of copper wire, and gold plated ring terminals. The terminals were a bi*ch to install, as well as removing the paint on the chassis spot. I bolted one end to the hole that is raised up right behind the battery. Result? One crank startup everytime!!! 
08-07-2006, 05:55 AM
#2
I have been trying to find terminals large enough to fit 0 gauge as i bought 25' of wire to make a grounding kit but the only ones i found were on ebay...around $8 for 2. How much did you buy yours for and where?? Im thinking of going with 2 gauge. Is the 1 0 gauge cable that much of an improvement over everything else you have? What size are the other cables?
08-07-2006, 08:59 AM
#7
Originally Posted by ShIft_uR FacE
I have been trying to find terminals large enough to fit 0 gauge as i bought 25' of wire to make a grounding kit but the only ones i found were on ebay...around $8 for 2. How much did you buy yours for and where?? Im thinking of going with 2 gauge. Is the 1 0 gauge cable that much of an improvement over everything else you have? What size are the other cables?
08-07-2006, 09:08 AM
#8
Some quick pics from cell phone:
Battery terminal:
The post behind the battery:
The place where I bolted down the wire is probably not visible or accessible if you have the stock intake box in place. But any place on the chassis will be the same, as long as you remove the paint to bare metal.
Battery terminal:
The post behind the battery:
The place where I bolted down the wire is probably not visible or accessible if you have the stock intake box in place. But any place on the chassis will be the same, as long as you remove the paint to bare metal.
08-07-2006, 09:49 AM
#9
Originally Posted by n3985
Some quick pics from cell phone:
Battery terminal:
http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/2...7061248iw0.jpg
The post behind the battery:
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7...7061249yk4.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1...7061250ww3.jpg
The place where I bolted down the wire is probably not visible or accessible if you have the stock intake box in place. But any place on the chassis will be the same, as long as you remove the paint to bare metal.
Battery terminal:
http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/2...7061248iw0.jpg
The post behind the battery:
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7...7061249yk4.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1...7061250ww3.jpg
The place where I bolted down the wire is probably not visible or accessible if you have the stock intake box in place. But any place on the chassis will be the same, as long as you remove the paint to bare metal.
08-07-2006, 09:51 AM
#10
Originally Posted by n3985
Mine were from eBay also, same price. I don't think there will be a *big* difference between 1/0 gauge or even 4 gauge wire. The rest of the wires are 8 gauge.
What size terminals did you use for the 0 gauge? 1/4, 5/16, 3/8?? Freakin huge wire compared to all the others...Been wanting to do this but the specific ring sizes in the write-up ive seen i cant find.
08-07-2006, 10:08 AM
#13
Originally Posted by ShIft_uR FacE
Thanks. One last question...Could i use 3/8 for the rest of the grounding points? I can only find 3/8 and 5/16 on ebay for 0 gauge.
08-07-2006, 10:13 AM
#14
Well i meant ALL the grounding points...as if i was going to make the whole kit you have with 8 gauge of 0 gauge(mad overkill but w/e..i have 25'). Also, ive checked home depot, autozone, discount auto parts around my area and none carry anything bigger than 4 gauge terminals so im kinda stuck on ebay right now.
08-07-2006, 10:20 AM
#16
Originally Posted by ShIft_uR FacE
Well i meant ALL the grounding points...as if i was going to make the whole kit you have with 8 gauge of 0 gauge(mad overkill but w/e..i have 25'). Also, ive checked home depot, autozone, discount auto parts around my area and none carry anything bigger than 4 gauge terminals so im kinda stuck on ebay right now.
08-07-2006, 11:20 AM
#19
You should look into getting a different battery connector like the stinger dual ring. One side can be used for the 1/0 gauge wire and the other side for your smaller wires. If the connector isn't tight enough the connector starts corroding. At the same time upgrade the factory ground with the same 1/0 guage wire.
08-07-2006, 01:09 PM
#21
Originally Posted by ShIft_uR FacE
Yea i have. They dont seem to carry large sizes and want to charge me about $10 for 2 
http://www.cardomain.com/shoplist~b~...~t~Power+Wires
08-07-2006, 01:32 PM
#23
MyownNismo thanks. Metal, sent u a pm. Still selling those LED's?
08-07-2006, 02:41 PM
#28
good job nan...apex intake FTMFW! 
I remember I added an optima red top to my dying oem...wow, it cracked SOOO much easier...then a few months later, I slapped on blehmco's ground kit to the mix...and just like you said, 1 crank start up...its incredible!
Optima + Ground Kit = teh win
I remember I added an optima red top to my dying oem...wow, it cracked SOOO much easier...then a few months later, I slapped on blehmco's ground kit to the mix...and just like you said, 1 crank start up...its incredible!
Optima + Ground Kit = teh win
08-07-2006, 06:17 PM
#31
I have 1-crank startup every time as it is 
Then again, my battery grounds to at least 3 chassis points as well as the rest of the "big 3" and a couple other things.....
0-ga seems like a bit of overkill, but as long as it works for you, that's all that matters
Then again, my battery grounds to at least 3 chassis points as well as the rest of the "big 3" and a couple other things.....0-ga seems like a bit of overkill, but as long as it works for you, that's all that matters
08-07-2006, 06:46 PM
#33
Originally Posted by irish44j
0-ga seems like a bit of overkill, but as long as it works for you, that's all that matters
Certainley seems rather cut-and-dry to me.
08-07-2006, 06:52 PM
#34
Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
A single wire is excessive when compared to three? Certainley seems rather cut-and-dry to me.
Certainley seems rather cut-and-dry to me.Do you honestly think that this $6 per foot wire is more effective for this use than, say, some 4awg standard copper wire from Home Depot or something?
In an audio setup, perhaps. But in a battery-to-chassis ground? I think not. In this capacity, it is overkill in an operational sense - though for some people it may be worth it in terms of how it looks in the engine bay vs. more "generic" wires. Bling bling. Designer "hyperground" wires.....
08-07-2006, 07:01 PM
#35
Originally Posted by irish44j
at a retail price of $6.80 per foot, yes it is excessive compared to anything.
08-07-2006, 07:07 PM
#36
Originally Posted by n3985
$10 or something total for 3 ft. is what I paid. And I used 0 gauge since the Sounddomain writeup said so.....
This is just a small-time extension of that....no reflection on you.....more of a reflection on the companies that charge retarded amounts for things like Monster Cable, etc....because they know people will buy it.
08-07-2006, 07:13 PM
#37
Originally Posted by irish44j
at a retail price of $6.80 per foot, yes it is excessive compared to anything.
Do you honestly think that this $6 per foot wire is more effective for this use than, say, some 4awg standard copper wire from Home Depot or something?
In an audio setup, perhaps. But in a battery-to-chassis ground? I think not. In this capacity, it is overkill in an operational sense - though for some people it may be worth it in terms of how it looks in the engine bay vs. more "generic" wires. Bling bling. Designer "hyperground" wires.....
08-07-2006, 07:15 PM
#38
Originally Posted by irish44j
This is just a small-time extension of that....no reflection on you.....more of a reflection on the companies that charge retarded amounts for things like Monster Cable, etc....because they know people will buy it.
08-07-2006, 07:20 PM
#39
Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
What in the hell kind of wire are you using?
Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
No, but on a similar note, if we are using HD as the purchase point, 0AWG can be had for a VERY marginal rate when comparing 4AWG and 0AWG. But both are some damn inflexible...
Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
A single, 8" run of 1/0AWG is certainley alot less blingy than any grounding kit...
$400....you crazy, son! That's alot of suspension parts
08-07-2006, 07:24 PM
#40
hell, I used 8awg on all my engine wiring. not trying to bend any o' that thick stuff....
Originally Posted by irish44j
teh interweb told me that Stinger SX050S Expert Series wire retails for $6.80 per foot (though it's usually sold for about $4 or so). Yaaay interweb. Yaaay Red Stripe!
[/QUOTE]You can get ALLLLLOT of Stinger Expert if you are fortunate enough to know 'Teh Don' ...or better yet, live very close to him!
