Just so you know....
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Just so you know....
A couple of months ago I had my SES light come on and found my car was pulling a p1147 code. After talking with Dave B about it, I found that the repair work and the parts were all covered under the 8yr/80,000 mile emissions warranty. I tried to let everyone here know what was going on and thought I could help getting people involved in the lawsuit sice Nissan refused to cover it under warranty. I thought that maybe others had gone through the same crap I had.
Anyway, the thread got locked and everyone dissed me for it. I was told to give it up and that it was not covered under warranty. I took no mind and followed through with my lawsuit against Nissan because I knew this was a warranty issue. The whole job would have cost Nissan about $390 to cover under warranty, but as I said, they refused to cover it. I paid just under $700 for the repair. I then sued Nissan...
....and won. A Nissan rep flew down here to meet my attorney and admitted that it is a warranty issue and that it should have been covered as such. They refunded every penny I paid with appologies.
So, despite the flaming I got for wanting to get others involved or informed, I did want to let everyone know that if your o2 sensors fail and you are within your 8yr/80,000 mile emissions warranty, it IS covered.
...and no, my attorney didnt keep half of the share. He is a family friend and just wanted to help, just as I had tried to help my fellow Maxima owners.
Anyway, the thread got locked and everyone dissed me for it. I was told to give it up and that it was not covered under warranty. I took no mind and followed through with my lawsuit against Nissan because I knew this was a warranty issue. The whole job would have cost Nissan about $390 to cover under warranty, but as I said, they refused to cover it. I paid just under $700 for the repair. I then sued Nissan...
....and won. A Nissan rep flew down here to meet my attorney and admitted that it is a warranty issue and that it should have been covered as such. They refunded every penny I paid with appologies.
So, despite the flaming I got for wanting to get others involved or informed, I did want to let everyone know that if your o2 sensors fail and you are within your 8yr/80,000 mile emissions warranty, it IS covered.
...and no, my attorney didnt keep half of the share. He is a family friend and just wanted to help, just as I had tried to help my fellow Maxima owners.
Well ****. Wish I saw that locked thread before I bought the O2sim. Just installed my 02 simulator 2 weeks ago to take care of this. I'm just a little over 71k on my '02.
Oh well, the sim worked fine for only $30...
...and I am sure they won't cover it now that I cut the oem O2 wires.
Anyone have spare "used" rear O2 sensors sitting around.
Oh well, the sim worked fine for only $30...
...and I am sure they won't cover it now that I cut the oem O2 wires.
Anyone have spare "used" rear O2 sensors sitting around.
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Originally Posted by trigger005
good4u
u should of demanded more $$ 2 cover for the attorney
u should of demanded more $$ 2 cover for the attorney
If it went to court we were. But they settled cause they knew they were at fault. Our attorney charged us nothing.
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Originally Posted by nismopc
Well ****. Wish I saw that locked thread before I bought the O2sim. Just installed my 02 simulator 2 weeks ago to take care of this. I'm just a little over 71k on my '02.
Oh well, the sim worked fine for only $30...
...and I am sure they won't cover it now that I cut the oem O2 wires.
Anyone have spare "used" rear O2 sensors sitting around.
Oh well, the sim worked fine for only $30...
...and I am sure they won't cover it now that I cut the oem O2 wires.
Anyone have spare "used" rear O2 sensors sitting around.
an O2 sensor is a wear item just like tires, brake pads, clutch, etc and are not covered by warranty.
so either there was another problem that caused the failure (and you arent telling us that) or nissan settled with you to get rid of you. that doesnt mean you were right. they just figured it was a small price to pay to get rid of you and not get any bad publicity.
so either there was another problem that caused the failure (and you arent telling us that) or nissan settled with you to get rid of you. that doesnt mean you were right. they just figured it was a small price to pay to get rid of you and not get any bad publicity.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
an O2 sensor is a wear item just like tires, brake pads, clutch, etc and are not covered by warranty.
so either there was another problem that caused the failure (and you arent telling us that) or nissan settled with you to get rid of you. that doesnt mean you were right. they just figured it was a small price to pay to get rid of you and not get any bad publicity.
so either there was another problem that caused the failure (and you arent telling us that) or nissan settled with you to get rid of you. that doesnt mean you were right. they just figured it was a small price to pay to get rid of you and not get any bad publicity.
mine were covered, but it was my extended warranty that covered it. It's a bumper-to-bumper 100k warranty with a 0 deductable and even the service manager was surprised it was covered, as he thought it wasn't. However, I am under 80k on my 2k2, so in this case it should have even been covered under the factory warranty. Thank god i didn't get screwed. 
Originally Posted by Maxima-Ness
Whatever you say all knowing one.....
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/warr95fs.txt
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Originally Posted by 5thgenmaxima
...so thats proof of what?
I dont understand where all the flack is coming from. I honestly did not see this as a warranty issue in the beginning. After calling Dave B, I found out different. So I guess Dave and I are both liars, right? Nissan just settled to get rid of me and all of those "other" claims that have been accepted in the past are just a result of Nissan deflecting customer complaints? I dont get it. What am I missing here?
Nissan says its a warranty item. the TSB points to a warranty issue. Soutpoint Nissan has extensive history of this exact same work covered under warranty. Am I wrong for letting everyone know this?
...if so, forget it. I will not in the future try to help anyone out. It only seems to get smart a$$ replies and im sick of it. Xanax needs to be an over the counter drug for the advantage of a few people on this forum....
Maxima-Ness: Well I came
doood, I don't have a problem with you, but you come in here with a comment like this
and
and
Trying to talk up about how right you are and wrong everyone else is, then we point out three major components are covered under the 8/80 and 02 sensors aren't normally one of them, then you get all mad and say we need xanax?? Also I am calling B.S. on the whole "A Nissan rep flew down here to meet my attorney and admitted that it is a warranty issue and that it should have been covered as such."
Originally Posted by Maxima-Ness
...so thats proof of what?
......blah blah blah.... So I guess Dave and I are both liars, right? Nissan just settled to get rid of me and all of those "other" claims that have been accepted in the past are just a result of Nissan deflecting customer complaints? I dont get it. What am I missing here?
blah blah blah
in the future try to help anyone out. It only seems to get smart a$$ replies and im sick of it. Xanax needs to be an over the counter drug for the advantage of a few people on this forum....
......blah blah blah.... So I guess Dave and I are both liars, right? Nissan just settled to get rid of me and all of those "other" claims that have been accepted in the past are just a result of Nissan deflecting customer complaints? I dont get it. What am I missing here?
blah blah blah
in the future try to help anyone out. It only seems to get smart a$$ replies and im sick of it. Xanax needs to be an over the counter drug for the advantage of a few people on this forum....
doood, I don't have a problem with you, but you come in here with a comment like this
Originally Posted by Maxima-Ness
A couple of months ago I had my SES light come on .....were all covered under the 8yr/80,000 mile emissions warranty.
Anyway, the thread got locked and everyone dissed me for it. I was told to give it up and that it was not covered under warranty. I took no mind and followed through with my lawsuit against Nissan because I knew this was a warranty issue. The whole job would have cost Nissan about $390 to cover under warranty, but as I said, they refused to cover it. I paid just under $700 for the repair. I then sued Nissan...
....and won. A Nissan rep flew down here to meet my attorney and admitted that it is a warranty issue and that it should have been covered as such. They refunded every penny I paid with appologies.
So, despite the flaming I got for wanting to get others involved or informed, I did want to let everyone know that if your o2 sensors fail and you are within your 8yr/80,000 mile emissions warranty, it IS covered.
...and no, my attorney didnt keep half of the share. He is a family friend and just wanted to help, just as I had tried to help my fellow Maxima owners.
Anyway, the thread got locked and everyone dissed me for it. I was told to give it up and that it was not covered under warranty. I took no mind and followed through with my lawsuit against Nissan because I knew this was a warranty issue. The whole job would have cost Nissan about $390 to cover under warranty, but as I said, they refused to cover it. I paid just under $700 for the repair. I then sued Nissan...
....and won. A Nissan rep flew down here to meet my attorney and admitted that it is a warranty issue and that it should have been covered as such. They refunded every penny I paid with appologies.
So, despite the flaming I got for wanting to get others involved or informed, I did want to let everyone know that if your o2 sensors fail and you are within your 8yr/80,000 mile emissions warranty, it IS covered.
...and no, my attorney didnt keep half of the share. He is a family friend and just wanted to help, just as I had tried to help my fellow Maxima owners.
Originally Posted by Maxima-Ness
Well, I tried to get everyones attention, but a mod locked the thread. Of course, not before I got flamed.....
Originally Posted by Maxima-Ness
Whatever you say all knowing one.....
Trying to talk up about how right you are and wrong everyone else is, then we point out three major components are covered under the 8/80 and 02 sensors aren't normally one of them, then you get all mad and say we need xanax?? Also I am calling B.S. on the whole "A Nissan rep flew down here to meet my attorney and admitted that it is a warranty issue and that it should have been covered as such."
Here is a copy and paste from the epa's website.....
Design and Defect Warranty Coverage for 1995 and newer light-duty
vehicles:
* Emission control and emission related parts are covered for the
first 2 years or 24,000 miles of vehicle use; and
* Specified major emission control components are covered for the
first 8 years or 80,000 miles of vehicle use.
According to federal law, an emission control or emission related
part, or a specified major emission control component, that fails
because of a defect in materials or workmanship, must be repaired or
replaced by the vehicle manufacturer free of charge as long as the
vehicle has not exceeded the warranty time or mileage limitations for
the failed part.
What Are Specified Major Emission Control Components?
There are three specified major emission control components,
covered for the first 8 years or 80,000 miles of vehicle use on 1995
and newer vehicles:
* Catalytic converters.
* The electronic emissions control unit or computer (ECU).
* The onboard emissions diagnostic device or computer (OBD).
The only way it would have been even remotely close to being covered is if you could prove one of the three components aboved caused the failure of the 02 sensor, which is a nearly impossible seeing as how the ecu only monitors the sensors.....
IIRC, there is a tsb that states the ecu needs reprogramming because the specs are to tight for when it sets off the 02 codes.....IF that was the case then the ecu reprogram along with resetting the code would suffice, unless the tsb specifically said to replace the 02 sensor at the time of reprogramming (this would be a loop hole for you and a potential mistake on Nissans part to add this into the tsb)... That would be the ONLY way it would be replaced under warranty, and even that would be a long shot for Nissan North America to cover....You would have better luck with getting the local dealership to charge it out to service, before having the dealership attempt to present that to Nissan north america.
Design and Defect Warranty Coverage for 1995 and newer light-duty
vehicles:
* Emission control and emission related parts are covered for the
first 2 years or 24,000 miles of vehicle use; and
* Specified major emission control components are covered for the
first 8 years or 80,000 miles of vehicle use.
According to federal law, an emission control or emission related
part, or a specified major emission control component, that fails
because of a defect in materials or workmanship, must be repaired or
replaced by the vehicle manufacturer free of charge as long as the
vehicle has not exceeded the warranty time or mileage limitations for
the failed part.
What Are Specified Major Emission Control Components?
There are three specified major emission control components,
covered for the first 8 years or 80,000 miles of vehicle use on 1995
and newer vehicles:
* Catalytic converters.
* The electronic emissions control unit or computer (ECU).
* The onboard emissions diagnostic device or computer (OBD).
The only way it would have been even remotely close to being covered is if you could prove one of the three components aboved caused the failure of the 02 sensor, which is a nearly impossible seeing as how the ecu only monitors the sensors.....
IIRC, there is a tsb that states the ecu needs reprogramming because the specs are to tight for when it sets off the 02 codes.....IF that was the case then the ecu reprogram along with resetting the code would suffice, unless the tsb specifically said to replace the 02 sensor at the time of reprogramming (this would be a loop hole for you and a potential mistake on Nissans part to add this into the tsb)... That would be the ONLY way it would be replaced under warranty, and even that would be a long shot for Nissan North America to cover....You would have better luck with getting the local dealership to charge it out to service, before having the dealership attempt to present that to Nissan north america.
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Originally Posted by 5thgenmaxima
Trying to talk up about how right you are and wrong everyone else is, then we point out three major components are covered under the 8/80 and 02 sensors aren't normally one of them, then you get all mad and say we need xanax?? Also I am calling B.S. on the whole "A Nissan rep flew down here to meet my attorney and admitted that it is a warranty issue and that it should have been covered as such."
Okay, I apologise for my short temper, but certain people here just irk me. Anyway, you can call BS if you want on the Nissan rep flying down here as there is no way to prove to you that he did, but as God as my witness he did. If I had children I would swear on their lives. Trust me, I was shocked that it went that far. So, no, its not BS and you can believe whatever you want in reguard to what I have said, but the fact remains that a Nissan "suit" flew down here and settled with my attorney - check in hand.
All I ever wanted to do was to let everyone know what I went through just in case someone else has the same problem, thats all.
I do not lie, and I consider many of you my friends. Im sorry that my attempt to help did not go over so well. In the end, it doesnt matter much since I got my money back and the appology I was after (from Nissan).
I guess from now on I'll just keep my findings to myself and not try to help out.
BTW, I forgot to take my Xanax last night, so thats probably why I was a little snippy
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Originally Posted by 5thgenmaxima
The only way it would have been even remotely close to being covered is if you could prove one of the three components aboved caused the failure of the 02 sensor, which is a nearly impossible seeing as how the ecu only monitors the sensors.....
IIRC, there is a tsb that states the ecu needs reprogramming because the specs are to tight for when it sets off the 02 codes.....IF that was the case then the ecu reprogram along with resetting the code would suffice, unless the tsb specifically said to replace the 02 sensor at the time of reprogramming (this would be a loop hole for you and a potential mistake on Nissans part to add this into the tsb)... That would be the ONLY way it would be replaced under warranty, and even that would be a long shot for Nissan North America to cover....You would have better luck with getting the local dealership to charge it out to service, before having the dealership attempt to present that to Nissan north america.
Originally Posted by Maxima-Ness
As to this I say; In the TSB it states that the ECU has to be reprogramed and both sensors have to be replaced. IIRC, from what Dave told me, since the ECU had to be reprogrammed, then it fell back as a default for the coverage of the o2 sensors and the entire job under warranty. So when filling the warranty claim the PFP# would be the ECU, not just the o2 sensors. The o2 sensors by themselves are a wear and tear item, but the loophole is that the ECU trips the SES light which in turn received the fault code from the o2 sensors. Thus, the ECU is to blame which makes it warranty. Does that explanation clarify things?
It does and technically speaking if they add 02 sensor replacement in the tsb describing the ecu problem, then yes I agree this is a either a technicality that they either overlooked when writing the tsb or their lawyers figured customers wouldn't be as informed enough as to realize that their was a tsb stating to reprogram the ecu AND replace the 02 sensors....Either way technically it "should" be covered. one would think since they always deny that the 02 sensor is warrantied (granted your vin falls within the defind vin in the tsb) when you take your car in for service, that since they are failing to uphold the federal emissions law that some greedy or environmentally friendly liberal lawyer and/or federal agency would be all over this in a class action.....
Then again maybe it's a problem at the dealership level..... Maybe Nissan Corporate hasn't passed the memo (and probably won't) to their dealers that this ecu reprogram and 02 sensor replacement technically falls under the 8/80. (per tsb of ecu problem)...Maybe the dealers have done so many without submitting a claim under warranty that they no longer beleive it is an 8/80...
FYI: this is the only ecu/02 bulletin I could find on alldata
this is intresting...
IMPORTANT: THIS BULLETIN HAS BEEN REVISED.
^ The Service Information and Service Procedure sections of this bulletin were revised.
^ Please use this bulletin NTB00-070b for complete information.
^ Discard all previously distributed copies of NTB00-070a.
APPLIED VEHICLES:
2000-2001 Maxima (A33) - Except 2000 Maximas with Federal Emissions Specification
IF YOU CONFIRM:
An applied vehicle has the following symptoms:
^ MIL "ON" with DTC P0420 stored
AND
^ Vehicle runs OK and does NOT have a misfire or driveability incident
ACTIONS:
1. Confirm this bulletin applies to the vehicle you're working on. Refer to the Repair Flow Chart for details.
2. Compare the current ECM part number to Chart A.
^ If your ECM part number is listed in Chart A, reprogram the ECM to the latest ECM data. See ECM REPROGRAMMING for details. Do NOT replace any parts in this case.
^ If your ECM part number is NOT listed in Chart A, you do not have to reprogram the ECM. But you will have to replace the Front Tube Assembly and the Front H02S1-B1 Oxygen Sensor. See Parts Replacement for details.
IMPORTANT: The purpose of "ACTIONS" (above) is to give you a quick idea of the work you will be performing. You MUST closely follow the entire Repair Flow Chart and Service Procedure as it contains information that is essential to successfully completing this repair.
PARTS INFORMATION
(picture from alldata doesn't show up here)
NOTE: ^ The parts shown are ONLY needed if your vehicle's ECM Part Number (P/N) DOES NOT match a Current ECM P/N in Chart A.
^ The parts are NOT needed if your vehicle's ECM Part Number (P/N) matches a Current ECM P/N in Chart A.
I wonder if only doing the reprogramming and not changing sensors at the same time is the difference between the original version and this "revised" version....Either way it has been "revised" so the 02 sensor is no longer covered under 8/80...You got damn lucky..
Anyhow only 00-01 with non-federal emissions (I.E. california spec) applies to this tsb.......Most are federal emissions so this tsb doesn't even really apply to most of us.
this is intresting...
IMPORTANT: THIS BULLETIN HAS BEEN REVISED.
^ The Service Information and Service Procedure sections of this bulletin were revised.
^ Please use this bulletin NTB00-070b for complete information.
^ Discard all previously distributed copies of NTB00-070a.
APPLIED VEHICLES:
2000-2001 Maxima (A33) - Except 2000 Maximas with Federal Emissions Specification
IF YOU CONFIRM:
An applied vehicle has the following symptoms:
^ MIL "ON" with DTC P0420 stored
AND
^ Vehicle runs OK and does NOT have a misfire or driveability incident
ACTIONS:
1. Confirm this bulletin applies to the vehicle you're working on. Refer to the Repair Flow Chart for details.
2. Compare the current ECM part number to Chart A.
^ If your ECM part number is listed in Chart A, reprogram the ECM to the latest ECM data. See ECM REPROGRAMMING for details. Do NOT replace any parts in this case.
^ If your ECM part number is NOT listed in Chart A, you do not have to reprogram the ECM. But you will have to replace the Front Tube Assembly and the Front H02S1-B1 Oxygen Sensor. See Parts Replacement for details.
IMPORTANT: The purpose of "ACTIONS" (above) is to give you a quick idea of the work you will be performing. You MUST closely follow the entire Repair Flow Chart and Service Procedure as it contains information that is essential to successfully completing this repair.
PARTS INFORMATION
(picture from alldata doesn't show up here)
NOTE: ^ The parts shown are ONLY needed if your vehicle's ECM Part Number (P/N) DOES NOT match a Current ECM P/N in Chart A.
^ The parts are NOT needed if your vehicle's ECM Part Number (P/N) matches a Current ECM P/N in Chart A.
I wonder if only doing the reprogramming and not changing sensors at the same time is the difference between the original version and this "revised" version....Either way it has been "revised" so the 02 sensor is no longer covered under 8/80...You got damn lucky..
Anyhow only 00-01 with non-federal emissions (I.E. california spec) applies to this tsb.......Most are federal emissions so this tsb doesn't even really apply to most of us.
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Originally Posted by 5thgenmaxima
FYI: this is the only ecu/02 bulletin I could find on alldata
this is intresting...
IMPORTANT: THIS BULLETIN HAS BEEN REVISED.
^ The Service Information and Service Procedure sections of this bulletin were revised.
^ Please use this bulletin NTB00-070b for complete information.
^ Discard all previously distributed copies of NTB00-070a.
APPLIED VEHICLES:
2000-2001 Maxima (A33) - Except 2000 Maximas with Federal Emissions Specification
IF YOU CONFIRM:
An applied vehicle has the following symptoms:
^ MIL "ON" with DTC P0420 stored
AND
^ Vehicle runs OK and does NOT have a misfire or driveability incident
ACTIONS:
1. Confirm this bulletin applies to the vehicle you're working on. Refer to the Repair Flow Chart for details.
2. Compare the current ECM part number to Chart A.
^ If your ECM part number is listed in Chart A, reprogram the ECM to the latest ECM data. See ECM REPROGRAMMING for details. Do NOT replace any parts in this case.
^ If your ECM part number is NOT listed in Chart A, you do not have to reprogram the ECM. But you will have to replace the Front Tube Assembly and the Front H02S1-B1 Oxygen Sensor. See Parts Replacement for details.
IMPORTANT: The purpose of "ACTIONS" (above) is to give you a quick idea of the work you will be performing. You MUST closely follow the entire Repair Flow Chart and Service Procedure as it contains information that is essential to successfully completing this repair.
PARTS INFORMATION
(picture from alldata doesn't show up here)
NOTE: ^ The parts shown are ONLY needed if your vehicle's ECM Part Number (P/N) DOES NOT match a Current ECM P/N in Chart A.
^ The parts are NOT needed if your vehicle's ECM Part Number (P/N) matches a Current ECM P/N in Chart A.
I wonder if only doing the reprogramming and not changing sensors at the same time is the difference between the original version and this "revised" version....Either way it has been "revised" so the 02 sensor is no longer covered under 8/80...You got damn lucky..
Anyhow only 00-01 with non-federal emissions (I.E. california spec) applies to this tsb.......Most are federal emissions so this tsb doesn't even really apply to most of us.
this is intresting...
IMPORTANT: THIS BULLETIN HAS BEEN REVISED.
^ The Service Information and Service Procedure sections of this bulletin were revised.
^ Please use this bulletin NTB00-070b for complete information.
^ Discard all previously distributed copies of NTB00-070a.
APPLIED VEHICLES:
2000-2001 Maxima (A33) - Except 2000 Maximas with Federal Emissions Specification
IF YOU CONFIRM:
An applied vehicle has the following symptoms:
^ MIL "ON" with DTC P0420 stored
AND
^ Vehicle runs OK and does NOT have a misfire or driveability incident
ACTIONS:
1. Confirm this bulletin applies to the vehicle you're working on. Refer to the Repair Flow Chart for details.
2. Compare the current ECM part number to Chart A.
^ If your ECM part number is listed in Chart A, reprogram the ECM to the latest ECM data. See ECM REPROGRAMMING for details. Do NOT replace any parts in this case.
^ If your ECM part number is NOT listed in Chart A, you do not have to reprogram the ECM. But you will have to replace the Front Tube Assembly and the Front H02S1-B1 Oxygen Sensor. See Parts Replacement for details.
IMPORTANT: The purpose of "ACTIONS" (above) is to give you a quick idea of the work you will be performing. You MUST closely follow the entire Repair Flow Chart and Service Procedure as it contains information that is essential to successfully completing this repair.
PARTS INFORMATION
(picture from alldata doesn't show up here)
NOTE: ^ The parts shown are ONLY needed if your vehicle's ECM Part Number (P/N) DOES NOT match a Current ECM P/N in Chart A.
^ The parts are NOT needed if your vehicle's ECM Part Number (P/N) matches a Current ECM P/N in Chart A.
I wonder if only doing the reprogramming and not changing sensors at the same time is the difference between the original version and this "revised" version....Either way it has been "revised" so the 02 sensor is no longer covered under 8/80...You got damn lucky..
Anyhow only 00-01 with non-federal emissions (I.E. california spec) applies to this tsb.......Most are federal emissions so this tsb doesn't even really apply to most of us.
the closest TSB I could find was this one http://maxima.theowensfamily.com/tsb/NTB02-051a.pdf but I think I have the updated one ("b"). This is the one I went from. It clearly states the procedure. I blew my service techs away when I explained to them the reasoning behind why it was a warranty item. I have to give credit to Dave and his warranty guy for that info though.
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I had a P0420 stored for some time...about 2 months. Took my trusty Toshiba out to the driveway and cleared it. Code came back within 2 hours.
Just took it to Ira Nissan Stoneham, MA today..with 79,952 miles on it. I read someones post on here about the cat being covered to 80,000 on the emissions warranty. I made an appointment on Monday...they couldn't take it till this morning (Thursday) so I didn't drive max all week..haha
Service Advisor called me back...stated that it was indeed bad cat and bad 02 sensor (bank 1 obviously, if you have a 420). She stated cat was covered
, 02 was not 
...about 280$ installed for that .
There IS a related TSB covering this issue..and its not NTB00-070A...theres an updated one.... NTB00-070B...you will find it all over the internet...but its near impossible to find it in its full 10 page PDF form...
PM me if you'd like a copy
I had a P0420 stored for some time...about 2 months. Took my trusty Toshiba out to the driveway and cleared it. Code came back within 2 hours.
Just took it to Ira Nissan Stoneham, MA today..with 79,952 miles on it. I read someones post on here about the cat being covered to 80,000 on the emissions warranty. I made an appointment on Monday...they couldn't take it till this morning (Thursday) so I didn't drive max all week..haha
Service Advisor called me back...stated that it was indeed bad cat and bad 02 sensor (bank 1 obviously, if you have a 420). She stated cat was covered
, 02 was not ...about 280$ installed for that . There IS a related TSB covering this issue..and its not NTB00-070A...theres an updated one.... NTB00-070B...you will find it all over the internet...but its near impossible to find it in its full 10 page PDF form...
PM me if you'd like a copy
Sucks for me that I bought my car with 93k So I'm beyond coverage. It also sucks that my light came on just AFTER my 30 warranty from the dealer expired. I had the infamous coil issue (fixed), Bad ABS sensor (ehh, fix later), and also the p0420 code. I'll probably be using an O2 sim and calling it a day.
Needless to say, if he had them covered by Nissan with Nissan saying they were covered... Everyone that had them replaced while they were under 80,000 miles is now eligable to get a refund for the parts and labor.
Maxima-Ness, do you have a case #, or anything we can reference if we have to call Nissan?
Maxima-Ness, do you have a case #, or anything we can reference if we have to call Nissan?
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Originally Posted by upstatemax
Needless to say, if he had them covered by Nissan with Nissan saying they were covered... Everyone that had them replaced while they were under 80,000 miles is now eligable to get a refund for the parts and labor.
Maxima-Ness, do you have a case #, or anything we can reference if we have to call Nissan?
Maxima-Ness, do you have a case #, or anything we can reference if we have to call Nissan?
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Originally Posted by upstatemax
Needless to say, if he had them covered by Nissan with Nissan saying they were covered... Everyone that had them replaced while they were under 80,000 miles is now eligable to get a refund for the parts and labor.
Maxima-Ness, do you have a case #, or anything we can reference if we have to call Nissan?
Maxima-Ness, do you have a case #, or anything we can reference if we have to call Nissan?
Well...currently Nissan is not talking to me because the case is still "involved with my attorney". I dont know why they presume it to be so as Ive already collected, but who knows. Give Dave B a call at Southpointe Nissan. He can explain whats going on. Tell him youre from the org, tho, so he doesnt think youre some random person. Either way I think he'd still be nice to you, but Im just saying...
I would personally love to see Nissan lose tons of money over this. I would have loved to have done a class action, but thats by-the-by now. It's a fight, ill warn you of that, but you just cant let up and you have to have your facts straight. Of course, I did, and I still had to get an attorney before they would cough up. Stupid Nissan.
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refund?
I have an '02 max with about 30K miles, I had two O2 sensors replaced back in Feb. Do you think there is anyway Nissan will refund me? The service advisor who recommended changing my sensors (check engine light was on) is no longer there, my new service advisor (who is an ***) said O2 sensors are not covered under warranty.
Maxima-Ness, who did you contact for the warranty? Do you have a phone # or case # I could refer to when talking to Nissan? Thanks
Maxima-Ness, who did you contact for the warranty? Do you have a phone # or case # I could refer to when talking to Nissan? Thanks
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Originally Posted by hogey228
I have an '02 max with about 30K miles, I had two O2 sensors replaced back in Feb. Do you think there is anyway Nissan will refund me? The service advisor who recommended changing my sensors (check engine light was on) is no longer there, my new service advisor (who is an ***) said O2 sensors are not covered under warranty.
Maxima-Ness, who did you contact for the warranty? Do you have a phone # or case # I could refer to when talking to Nissan? Thanks
Maxima-Ness, who did you contact for the warranty? Do you have a phone # or case # I could refer to when talking to Nissan? Thanks
As stated above, I cannot give you any case # because they still consider this to be "attorney involved", so they wont even talk to me about it. You'll first need to start by calling 1-800-NISSAN1 which will result in them telling you that youre wrong, yada yada yada. Next step, get an attorney. Nissan will not listen to you, but they sure as hell acted the fool when I got an attorney.
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