I want opinions on which is better & why?
scenerio: stock suspenion is shot need new shocks/spings pocket is tight but want improvment car is a daily driver & dont have money for illuminas so im stuck between 1.which is stiffer? 2. warranty gr2 =lifetime HP=1 yr

 

Well, it wasn't on a Maxima, but I have been VERY impressed with KYB Gas-A-Just struts and shocks on two cars I've owned in the past. HOWEVER, be aware that the GR-2 is NOT the Gas-A-Just, and is softer. I don't know much about the Tokico blues, but I can cast my vote against the GR-2.

One car where I was able to directly compare them was a 1992 Pontiac Sunbird coupe I had back in the day (I've owned well over 2 dozen cars over the past 30 years). For some reason, only GR-2s were available for the front, but Gas-A-Justs (white) were available for the rear. My experience after installing them was the front end of the car felt relatively sloppy whereas the rear end felt perfectly controlled but not harsh. Those GR-2 struts were not much better than stock GM crap, in other words...

 

Hey., search man., there is enough great info on both in the forum. A quick search will answer all your questions. If you can't search because you have not donated. Then go to google and use that to search. There's a sticky on how to do that.

I have the Blues on my 01 Max and am really impressed with them. A tad stiffer than stock and real real nice. Also, the Blues just like the GR2's have a limited lifetime warranty.

 

From what I've gathered. Blues are a high performance shock, while kyb gr2 are just listed as oem replacements. At least KYB doesnt' market gr2 as high performance shocks, more as just a better upgrade over oem shocks while Tokico markets blues as a high performance shock. I have hp and think they are great

 

I've been reading several threads on struts/shocks and am somewhat suprised regarding the response to the Tokico Blues. I've had my Max since April of this year. Previous to that I owned SR20 powered cars for over 13 years. So my suspension knowledge is more towards Sentra's, NX's and G20's.

In the SR20 community, the Tokico Blues are considered the worst replacement shock around. Known to blow. I had a set of them on a '91 NX2000 with Jamex springs back in the early/mid 90's and they blue within 5k miles.

On the other hand, the KYB GR2's are considered one of the best second to the AGX for aftermarket replacements.

Just find it odd there is that much of a difference between the two communities.

 

My knowldege of these is that the Tokico Blues are comparable to stock replacements and the GR2's are actually a bit stiffer than OEM.

But then again...
www.tokicogasshocks.com
www.kyb.com

 

OK I thought the hp had 1 yr with that my local parts guy as well as most only have gr2 s thats why I kept putin them in my 4th gen I didnt know how good they would be for the 5th the funny thing is I had hp in the rear & gr2 in front I changed the front 3 times never changed the rears I just thought I had to get glasses to dodge New York City POT HOLES I never went to hps cause I thought only 1 yr warranty& convenience of walkin down the block get a replacement & get my **** in drive

 

so thats why Ive been my F#@%!N head I just thought the search engine was being a b!tch thank you for the edumacation I will be sending the the ALMIGHTY ORG its just dues

 

[QUOTE=nismopc]My knowldege of these is that the Tokico Blues are comparable to stock replacements and the GR2's are actually a bit stiffer than OEM.



Blues and OEM are nothing alike. With OEM you feel every little bump in road while with blues the ride is so much better. I haven't had any problems as far as them blowing but I am running stock springs. I believe kyb and hps will last the life of the car with stock springs, but once you start putting extra stress on them with lower springs, they both will blow sooner or later. As far as stiffness, yes blues are stiffer then stock but in a good controlled way..

 

thay re both OEM replacements, i do belive that the blues only have a 1yr warrantee. ive had them for a little while and like them. dont know about GR2s but ive had KYB AGX and they are very good. id personally wait till i can affored the illuminas but its ultimately ur choise. u really cant go wrong either way.

 

Fixed...

This was discussed a few years ago, Nissan used tokico blues as the OE strut on the 00’s and 01’s and maybe 02-03, but not sure about that.

 

i just ordered tokiko blues from ebay and am waiting for them to be delivered. I got them for $280 w/ free shipping

 

If your just replacing the stock suspension due to wear, either will be an improvement.

 

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2447241

 

I have Tokico stock (from Nissan which is oil based) on my fronts and just replaced the rears with Tokico Blues and I think there is heaven and earth difference in ride. My rear shocks were not shot but was getting there -- replacing them has been a success for a comfortable ride.

 

WTF is the point of that post?

 

It's a limited lifetime warranty on the Blues.. Actually all Tokico Shocks. Here's from the Q&A on their site:::
Q: Does TOKICO offer a warranty?
A: TOKICO offers a limited lifetime warranty for all of our suspension products purchased for street use. Products used or designed for competition are not covered under warranty.

http://www.tokicogasshocks.com/faq/

 

Q. How is TOKICO different from other shock brands?
A. TOKICO differs from other shocks in a number of ways. Piston and valve design, valving curves, and quality are all areas where TOKICOs differ from other shocks. A general overview of these differences is available by clicking on Shock Design. We have not found another shock which combines the ride, adhesion and handling characteristics as well as TOKICO.

 

Nissan uses Tokico as it's OEM for there shocks/struts, but they are designed to meet nissans specs. Blues are not the same shocks/struts that come on any maxima. All auto makers have OEM for shocks. Some auto makers use KYB but that doesn't mean they are the GR2 models. The shocks that come on the max are underdampened big time.....