"Marbles in a can" pinging noise under deceleration
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"Marbles in a can" pinging noise under deceleration
I actually just noticed this 2 days ago. When Im at low speeds and usually in 1st or 2nd gear and just let go of the gas I hear this "marbles in a can" pinging noise. Under acceleration I can hear the noise also but not as much. When I shift higher the noise goes away. Any idea what this is?
Could it be the heatshield on the cat. converter? Mileage is 53k and car has no other problems. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Rahul
Could it be the heatshield on the cat. converter? Mileage is 53k and car has no other problems. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Rahul
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Originally Posted by SLVRMAXX
oh yea...its pointless because Im actually having a problem with my car and Im looking for an answer? Stop spamming my thread with your crap man.
No it is pointless because there are countless threads on here about this SAME EXACT problem....
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my mechanic said its rod knock. sounds like something is knockin inside the motor. been drivin the car like that for the last 4 months, and nuthins happenned yet.
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uhm its def. not rod knock. hey silvermax i have the same problem. ive came to the conclusion that it is something in the exhaust. it only happens to me when my car is fully warmed up. i can make the rocks in a can noise by just reving my car up to maybe 1500rpm to 2000rpm. when its cold and i give it a little rev i get no noise. im thinking something in the exhaust since its stock.
edit: i just noticed my car is like a twin to yours. im just at 51k thou lol
edit: i just noticed my car is like a twin to yours. im just at 51k thou lol
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Whoa, I have the exact same problem, in cold weather it doesn't do it until my car is fully warmed up. I rev to about 1500-2000 rpms and when I let off it starts rattling. I think that it may just be the Pre-Cat rattling though. I have had this problem for a while and like you guys, my car has around
50-60k miles. My car still runs fine and everything, and BTW I have an aftermarket exhaust and it still does it. But I think maybe this is just a little petty problem that most Maxima owners have, but I am not for sure.
50-60k miles. My car still runs fine and everything, and BTW I have an aftermarket exhaust and it still does it. But I think maybe this is just a little petty problem that most Maxima owners have, but I am not for sure.
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my old 01 prelude had a similiar noise and it was the cat converter. it was replaced by honda for free. But the only difference was when I revved at idle I could hear it with that car....when I rev this one I get no noise
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Yep, very relevant also to THIS thread also.
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Originally Posted by spark plugs.
I'm not sure about max's, but in honda's it's very common for the heatshield on the cat to come loose and cause this same problem.
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Originally Posted by pimpin02max
Whoa, I have the exact same problem, in cold weather it doesn't do it until my car is fully warmed up. I rev to about 1500-2000 rpms and when I let off it starts rattling. I think that it may just be the Pre-Cat rattling though. I have had this problem for a while and like you guys, my car has around
50-60k miles. My car still runs fine and everything, and BTW I have an aftermarket exhaust and it still does it. But I think maybe this is just a little petty problem that most Maxima owners have, but I am not for sure.
50-60k miles. My car still runs fine and everything, and BTW I have an aftermarket exhaust and it still does it. But I think maybe this is just a little petty problem that most Maxima owners have, but I am not for sure.
ya but its coming from the ypipe area. your mod list doesnt have one. im pretty sure thats where its coming from. im about to take a hammer and start hitting the heat shields and whatnot.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
In our case, the AFR becomes lean, fries the cat, and creates it to break apart, causing said noise.
so YOUR saying its the cats rattling?
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Originally Posted by platinum03SE
so YOU'RE saying its the cats rattling?
But since the OP hasn't provided a detailed description, I'm shooting in the dark.
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damn i really want to know if a ypipe or a set of headers and yipe will fix it because that **** really pisses me off.
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Originally Posted by upstatemax
No it is pointless because there are countless threads on here about this SAME EXACT problem....
So instead of being a douchebag.. which obviously you are..why don't you help the guy out?
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Originally Posted by platinum03SE
uhm its def. not rod knock. hey silvermax i have the same problem. ive came to the conclusion that it is something in the exhaust. it only happens to me when my car is fully warmed up. i can make the rocks in a can noise by just reving my car up to maybe 1500rpm to 2000rpm. when its cold and i give it a little rev i get no noise. im thinking something in the exhaust since its stock.
edit: i just noticed my car is like a twin to yours. im just at 51k thou lol
edit: i just noticed my car is like a twin to yours. im just at 51k thou lol
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Originally Posted by spark plugs.
why be a ****? if you don't have a useful answer, GTFO.
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I have plenty of answers for him, but he needs to search and do some common problem solving like even finding out where the sound is even comming from before ANYONE can really help him.
People are way to lazy of this board, "ohhh I heard a sound, I will go post about it and expect answers to be feed to me without any work on my part"...
The 5th gen forum is full of repost because of people like the OP who don't do anything for themselves.
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Originally Posted by criddle20
I know I have a lot of street cred around here with this being my first post but it I agree with the above quote... something in the exhaust, possibly the Cat. Does it smell funny like anything you would expect with a bad cat?
edit: honestly get the **** of if your going to be a douch bag.
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Originally Posted by platinum03SE
i DONT think its a cat also. for a cat to be failing at 50k would shock me for a STOCK vehicle. if the cat were bad there would be some sort of rank smell. also, if there were a bad cat, it would have definitely effected the performance of my car.
edit: honestly get the **** of if your going to be a douch bag.
edit: honestly get the **** of if your going to be a douch bag.
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Originally Posted by criddle20
Just because the cat is rattling doesnt mean performance will be effected and it doesn't have to produce a bad smell, that is just a sign of a bad Cat. If you melted it by using regular unleaded or something like that you would notice a difference in performance, but not if some of the guts of the cat are just rattling. A cat CAN go out at anytime from just about anything or for no reason at all so the fact that there are just 53k miles on the car doesn't really matter. Just my opinion, if you don't agree or whatever that's fine. And I really hope you aren't calling me a dooshbag, I'm just trying to help out. I had a cat go out on an 04 Jetta with 21k miles for no reason at all... ran the recommended premium unleaded and everything. No bad smell, just rattling in the exhaust when accelerating or decelerating (Downshifting). Just giving my 2 cents from experience.
no no your not the douch bag lol
i duno im gonna take the cats off soon and look.
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The 2 of you posting back and forth is like Ray Charles leading Stevie wonder into an intersection.
A bad cat will hurt performance. Especially fro an 03 where the cats are integrated into the exhaust manifold
They affect it as it is in stock functioning form. Proof of this is aftermarket headers.
Explain to me how in gods good name you can do that by using regular unleaded?
Again, refer to my first sentence in this post.
True in a small %. What's not true is the any reason at all part. A cat doesn't just go wrong, it is prompted from something else. Read this link for more information. http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...4&postcount=13
. You're not helping here since 99.98 % of the information you posted is incorrect.
Ok, this is Maxima.org.
Prepare to be shocked because only 50% of what you said is correct, and you're incorrect on the shocked portion. But you're correct in that a bad cat will affect performance
Originally Posted by criddle20
Just because the cat is rattling doesnt mean performance will be effected and it doesn't have to produce a bad smell, that is just a sign of a bad Cat.
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Originally Posted by criddle20
If you melted it by using regular unleaded
Originally Posted by criddle20
something like that you would notice a difference in performance, but not if some of the guts of the cat are just rattling.
Originally Posted by criddle20
A cat CAN go out at anytime from just about anything or for no reason at all so the fact that there are just 53k miles on the car doesn't really matter.
Originally Posted by criddle20
Just my opinion, if you don't agree or whatever that's fine. And I really hope you aren't calling me a dooshbag, I'm just trying to help out
Originally Posted by criddle20
I had a cat go out on an 04 Jetta with 21k miles for no reason at all
Originally Posted by platinum03SE
i DONT think its a cat also. for a cat to be failing at 50k would shock me for a STOCK vehicle. if the cat were bad there would be some sort of rank smell. also, if there were a bad cat, it would have definitely effected the performance of my car.
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In our case, the AFR becomes lean, fries the cat, and creates it to break apart, causing said noise.
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In our case, the AFR becomes lean, fries the cat, and creates it to break apart, causing said noise.
Update: seems like the noise died down a little but Im still taking it to get checked out tomorrow. I hope its not the timing chain
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Originally Posted by upstatemax
No it is pointless because there are countless threads on here about this SAME EXACT problem....
few more details on the problem:
-NO smell
-NO noise when revving at idle
-car still performs the same
-I cant think of a better term than "marbles in a bag" to describe the problem
-Looks like its an on/off problem.
I'll let you guys know what the dealer says tomorrow. Thanks to those who gave productive advice
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It would be nice if you were more familiar with your 'sounds' recognition. Exhaust rattle/spark knock/ping /rod knock/ chain rattle are all pretty distinctive.
Anyhow, good luck in your repair venture.
Anyhow, good luck in your repair venture.
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Originally Posted by SLVRMAXX
go talk to the many people who make threads on suspension related issues and then get back to me. okthanksbye
few more details on the problem:
-NO smell
-NO noise when revving at idle
-car still performs the same
-I cant think of a better term than "marbles in a bag" to describe the problem
-Looks like its an on/off problem.
I'll let you guys know what the dealer says tomorrow. Thanks to those who gave productive advice
few more details on the problem:
-NO smell
-NO noise when revving at idle
-car still performs the same
-I cant think of a better term than "marbles in a bag" to describe the problem
-Looks like its an on/off problem.
I'll let you guys know what the dealer says tomorrow. Thanks to those who gave productive advice
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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....highlight=ping
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....light=knocking
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