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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Oh I see, looks good...
I bet you don't see
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proof?
I don't feel like taking it off of my car right now just to show proof. Here are some old pictures.


Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I don't feel like taking it off of my car right now just to show proof. Here are some old pictures.


I was joking.
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I know But I really want to show the difference. Pretty significant.
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I know But I really want to show the difference. Pretty significant.
Show-off!
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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I bet you don't see
Bet I do...
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin02max
Bet I do...
What is it then? And what size?
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I don't feel like taking it off of my car right now just to show proof. Here are some old pictures.



coughnoideawhereyougotthatthingcough

To the rest of the thread, this is precisely what Place Racing did back in 2002. Orgullo, this is a very nice writeup for those who missed out on them being in business.
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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Thanks...

Just for reference I think that the Fujita intake will work with this set up. As well as the Altima intakes. It wouldn't hurt to see.
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I could tell you, but then i'd have to kill you
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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We'll we can leave out the kill part. lol
Old Jul 23, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Edit: Ok... you can kill me after I get it on my car. How's that???
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Orgullo
Just for reference I think that the Fujita intake will work with this set up. As well as the Altima intakes. It wouldn't hurt to see.
The A34 Fujita would need some minor modification re: MAF sensor BP (bolt pattern). Not a weekend job, but something to think about as I'm sure there's other things that would obviously need some small modification. After I dyno my current set-up, I will know for sure if the intake is worth all th noise.

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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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Orgullo, nice write-up.

Although I'm wondering about the battery reorientation, because if you get a smaller battery you may be able to do this without doing that.

I mean a battery like a Braille or Odyssey, picture of my Odyssey here:

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That's a small battery. Now the issue comes with the tray and the fuse box being in the way. Also, How does this battery stand when you have a large system?
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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If you've got a large system, you arent going to be fast. The battery stands up well to the stock system and leaving the headlights on for a few min after the car is off (or letting the cooling fans run while the engine is off at the track). It wont do you any good with a monster sound system
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What is it then? And what size?
Don't know for sure what it's off of but I'm pretty sure it's either 82mm or 83mm...

On another note...I always thought that the WAI dynoed higher then the CAI's, I was looking over all the other threads and everytime the WAI dynoed higher then the CAI...I think you should go get this thing dynoed!!!
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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i was thinking of getting braille carbon fiber battery, those things are light! im thinking they are meant for performance, weight saving. dont know if it can handle the loud systems.
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Orgullo
I do know that CAI is better then WAI.
Do you have proof of this?
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Originally Posted by TDotMax
Do you have proof of this?
Physics?

It totally depends on what you're doing. If you're on a road course where you never really slow down too much, its not going to matter either way. Introduce heat soak into the equation and the CAI will be the winner by a few hp.
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Dyno proven? No!!! I've read that people get better results with their dyno's when they ran wai. However, those people are usually auto-xing or tracking it up.

I don't track my car and I think it's safe to say that about 90% of the people on here don't either. With the exception of the occasional highway play. With that being said my car runs a lot better with cooler air. Even more noticable in the cooler months. I ran the wai for a minute and now I run this set up. I've noticed better response at mid range and top end.
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Originally Posted by Orgullo
Dyno proven? No!!! I've read that people get better results with their dyno's when they ran wai. However, those people are usually auto-xing or tracking it up.

I don't track my car and I think it's safe to say that about 90% of the people on here don't either. With the exception of the occasional highway play. With that being said my car runs a lot better with cooler air. Even more noticable in the cooler months. I ran the wai for a minute and now I run this set up. I've noticed better response at mid range and top end.
WAI does better on a dyno only, simply because the hood is open with a fan on the engine. With the hood closed, not sitting at max RPM all the time, the CAI is better. Back to back on sebring a few years ago, the power felt stronger coming out of the corners with the PRCAI fully assembled. On the back stretch, the WAI/shortram (basically the filter mounted right to the MAF felt a teensy bit stronger but didnt really come on until past 5500. You arent going to see huge differences either way, maybe 3-5hp between the best and worst intake. Nothing to write home about.
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
WAI does better on a dyno only, simply because the hood is open with a fan on the engine. With the hood closed, not sitting at max RPM all the time, the CAI is better. Back to back on sebring a few years ago, the power felt stronger coming out of the corners with the PRCAI fully assembled. On the back stretch, the WAI/shortram (basically the filter mounted right to the MAF felt a teensy bit stronger but didnt really come on until past 5500. You arent going to see huge differences either way, maybe 3-5hp between the best and worst intake. Nothing to write home about.
not to mention most people cite PEAK dyno numbers, where the WAI is at its strongest. Down low on the dyno, CAI >> WAI.
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Originally Posted by TDotMax
Do you have proof of this?
yes, because I've had the GAB, WAI, and CAI...the difference is clear.
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not to mention most people cite PEAK dyno numbers, where the WAI is at its strongest. Down low on the dyno, CAI >> WAI.
Oh alright, I guess I will be doing this to my car then.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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well first lemme say thank you O i must say i deff feel a difference and i dont know who is complaining about an intake being loud but my freakin car soumds great...{like a lil monster } lol
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dont know who is complaining about an intake being loud but my freakin car soumds great...{like a lil monster } lol
That would be me. Believe me, in time, you'll grow tired of it.
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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That would be me. Believe me, in time, you'll grow tired of it.


I thought mine was stupid loud when I had a custom mid-pipe and conical filter. I ended up putting the resonator back in as I stated in previous post and kept the conical filter.
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does the length of the intake tube have any effect on the intake it self? like throttle response, or hp delivery?
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i agree that there is more power down low with the stock airbox.
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I think everything in between can be modified for real gains, i.e keep the stock airbox, stock muffler, mod everything in between, and still have mucho power, and great, smooth sound.

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This could be true. I am comparing my WAI (stock resonator and accordian with adaptor and filter) over Injen. The Injen was horrible for obvious reasons. Maybe this mod is something to play with. Then again I don't autoX my car. More into running 1/4's.
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Originally Posted by TDotMax
This could be true.
What might be?

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Then again I don't autoX my car. More into running 1/4's.
Since you're auto, every single bit of 'area under the curve' is essential for you, even in the 1/4.
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Still think this should've been stickied...
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I would agree.

But there are not any numbers, currently, to prove anything (i.e. IAT's/Dynos)

Good work, and I'm not knocking it in any way, just stating my opinion
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gracias...
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It won't be stickied but it will prob be added into the how-tos.
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How To's are stickys
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
How To's are stickys
But its not actually stickied onto the front page of 5th gen forum, its inside of a stickied thread so its not really considered stickied but added onto a stickied thread.



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