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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 05:15 AM
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The positive and negative about clear corners

I am going to purchase front and possible clear corners from e-bay. Any positive or negative feedback about who to buy from or who to avoid. Thanks in advance.
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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do you think you are the first person to ever buy clear corners?
you dont think there is information available?
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Originally Posted by nlmaxima
I am going to purchase front and possible clear corners from e-bay. Any positive or negative feedback about who to buy from or who to avoid. Thanks in advance.

im going to answer your question for you. I purchased mine from autodynamic.com, and they are not cheaply made, and have not rusted or anything. I dont have any issues with mine.

Positive feedback, GET THEM, and enjoy them. People will say in some states if you dont have orange bulbs up front and red bulbs in the back you could get a ticket for it being "so called" illegal.

Like my tail lights for example, On here they say the all cler tails ARE ILLEGAL,because there is no red reflector, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE IN MARYLAND.
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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People will say in some states if you dont have orange bulbs up front and red bulbs in the back you could get a ticket for it being "so called" illegal.

Like my tail lights for example, On here they say the all cler tails ARE ILLEGAL,because there is no red reflector, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE IN MARYLAND.
here we go...you are full of ****.
lighting laws are FEDERAL so yes your tailights are illegal. so are clear corners. having the proper colored bulbs will make it less obvious. just because you havent gotten pulled over doesnt mean they are legal.

read up before you make stuff up http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...cfr571.108.htm

please dont argue this with me...i have been doing it on here for years. you wont win since i know the law.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
do you think you are the first person to ever by clear corners?
you dont think there is information available?
I will assume you meant BUY and not BY.

If I thought I was the first person to buy clear corners I wouldn't ask for anyone's opinion about it since they wouldn't have a valid opinion if I was the first to purchase them.

I done a couple searches and only came up with people who have listed them in there mods like Cattman Y-pipe, Stillen RSB, Clear corners. I guess that should have been enough info for me. How dare me of all people, an Automotive Technician with 18 years experience of seeing people buying not the highest quality accessoires, how could I have the nerve to ask for the positive and negative feedback about it. Me a Donating Org Member asking a question in a forum.

I forget, was your reply a positive experience or a negetive one?
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you are a donating member and couldnt get your answer?
you should ask for your donation back since you dont know how to search
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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and what does you being "an Automotive Technician with 18 years experience" have to do with this topic
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
here we go...you are full of ****.
lighting laws are FEDERAL so yes your tailights are illegal. so are clear corners. having the proper colored bulbs will make it less obvious. just because you havent gotten pulled over doesnt mean they are legal.

read up before you make stuff up http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...cfr571.108.htm

please dont argue this with me...i have been doing it on here for years. you wont win since i know the law.

look man, i dont give a damn what you say ....Im going by what ive ben told and read by Sources here in Baltimore, Maryland. U dont live in Maryland and i really dont give a damn about a URL thats not even Federally hosted. You want to display facts, DISPLAY A FEDERAL DOCUMENT POSTED FROM A FEDERAL WEBSITE, ON A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WEBSERVER. NOT A TEXT DOCUMENT WITH NO OFFICIAL SEAL, on A SERVER HOSTED FROM GOD KNOWS WHERE. (give me time and ill track WHO's site that is, but its probably not EVEN WORTH MY TIME) The fact that you claim to be doing somehting for years means jack. Ive been doing Information Technology for years....BUT GUESS WHAT, no one gives a damn
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Originally Posted by nlmaxima
I will assume you meant BUY and not BY.

If I thought I was the first person to buy clear corners I wouldn't ask for anyone's opinion about it since they wouldn't have a valid opinion if I was the first to purchase them.

I done a couple searches and only came up with people who have listed them in there mods like Cattman Y-pipe, Stillen RSB, Clear corners. I guess that should have been enough info for me. How dare me of all people, an Automotive Technician with 18 years experience of seeing people buying not the highest quality accessoires, how could I have the nerve to ask for the positive and negative feedback about it. Me a Donating Org Member asking a question in a forum.

I forget, was your reply a positive experience or a negetive one?
DUDE, HIS REPLIES ARE NEGATIVE AS USUAL...... I think he HATES life or something
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Originally Posted by Trurida18
look man, i dont give a damn what you say ....Im going by what ive ben told and read by Sources here in Baltimore, Maryland. U dont live in Maryland and i really dont give a damn about a URL thats not even Federally hosted. You want to display facts, DISPLAY A FEDERAL DOCUMENT POSTED FROM A FEDERAL WEBSITE, ON A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WEBSERVER. NOT A TEXT DOCUMENT WITH NO OFFICIAL SEAL, on A SERVER HOSTED FROM GOD KNOWS WHERE. (give me time and ill track WHO's site that is, but its probably not EVEN WORTH MY TIME) The fact that you claim to be doing somehting for years means jack. Ive been doing Information Technology for years....BUT GUESS WHAT, no one gives a damn
is this better http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...VSS/index.html

FEDERAL LAW
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Originally Posted by Trurida18
DUDE, HIS REPLIES ARE NEGATIVE AS USUAL...... I think he HATES life or something
just stupid people
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Originally Posted by soonerfan

thats great!!!!!! Im still going by MD-SHA (STATE LAW)

and if thats the case, why are the Lexus RX 350 and the New Mecury Mountaineer SUV's coming standard with ALL CLEAR TAILS

http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/mountaineer/
http://www.lexus.com/models/RX/
HOPE U HAVE FLASH? (if u know what it is)

(and technically if there is a red bulb, then it is always reflecting RED...which in this case the reflection is all that makes the difference)
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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thats great!!!!!! Im still going by MD-SHA (STATE LAW)
like i said...its a FEDERAL LAW that covers the whole US and its public roads. unless MD is its own country, federal laws apply.
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:53 AM
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O YES!!!! the lexus argument!!!!

look at those cars...the have huge red reflectors on the bumper.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
O YES!!!! the lexus argument!!!!

look at those cars...the have huge red reflectors on the bumper.

i dont give a damn about the bumper, we are talking about TAILS, and even that pointless link you posted form the national highway administration SAID specifically TAIL LAMPS, THAT IS WHAT THIS is ABOUT, tail lamps
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Trurida18
i dont give a damn about the bumper, we are talking about TAILS, and even that pointless link you posted form the national highway administration SAID specifically TAIL LAMPS, THAT IS WHAT THIS is ABOUT, tail lamps
i thought this was about clear corners

tailights must light up red
there has to be a red reflector in the rear.
the maxima uses the tailight for both.
the lexus uses the reflector on the bumper to pass the law.

your car will only be legal if you have red reflectors on the bumper...you dont have them.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
i thought this was about clear corners

tailights must light up red
there has to be a red reflector in the rear.
the maxima uses the tailight for both.
the lexus uses the reflector on the bumper to pass the law.

your car will only be legal if you have red reflectors on the bumper...you dont have them.
thats great!!!!!! Im still going by MD-SHA (STATE LAW) well i guess my car is illegal then..back to clear corners
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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State Laws only trump federal laws when the state laws are MORE strict

again...MD state law cant be less then federal.

since i provided the federal law...show me the MD law that says your tails are legal
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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why do people argue with me
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
State Laws only trump federal laws when the state laws are MORE strict

again...MD state law cant be less then federal.

since i provided the federal law...show me the MD law that says your tails are legal

i dont need to do anything, because UNLIKE YOU......im not out to prove anything and at the end of the day. Myself, as well as several OTHER .org members will still have their ALL CLEAR TAILS
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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i dont need to do anything, because UNLIKE YOU......im not out to prove anything and at the end of the day. Myself, as well as several OTHER .org members will still have their ALL CLEAR TAILS
or you have no proof. thats ok since i know you are wrong
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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what was this thread about again?
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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The Maryland Vehicle Law clearly states the colors which are required on the front, back and sides of vehicles used on
public highways, and these laws are in conformance with the Federal Safety Standards for Motor Vehicles
manufactured in the United States. Changing or altering these required items subjects the vehicle operator to a
Moving Vehicle Traffic Citation, (usually $40-50) and/or a Safety Equipment Repair Order.

WHEN IN DOUBT ABOUT A PARTICULAR AFTER-MARKET ITEM, CONTACT THE MARYLAND STATE POLICE -
AUTOMOTIVE SAFETY ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AT (410) 424-3787 FOR AN OFFICIAL RULING.
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Title 22 of the Maryland Transportation Article

22-209(a) FRONT LAMPS - Front Clearance Lamps, Identification Lamps, and those Marker Lamps and
Reflectors mounted on the front or on the side near the front of a vehicle shall display or reflect an AMBER color.

22-227(b) RED OR BLUE LIGHT VISIBLE FROM THE FRONT - Except as required or permitted in 22-218
of this subtitle, (regarding the operation of Emergency or School Vehicles) a person may not drive or move any
vehicle or equipment on any highway with any lamp or device on it that displays a Red or Blue Light
visible directly from the front of it’s center.

22-227(d) WHITE LIGHT VISIBLE FROM THE REAR - Except as authorized elsewhere in this subtitle, a person
may not drive or move any vehicle or equipment on any highway with any lamp or device that displays a
WHITE light visible directly from it’s rear.

22-227(e) DRIVING OR MOVING VEHICLE DISPLAYING FLASHING LIGHT - Except as authorized
elsewhere in this subtitle, a person may not drive or move any vehicle or equipment on any
highway while the vehicle or equipment displays any Flashing Light.

22-227(f) COLOR OF LIGHTS ON REAR OF VEHICLE - All lighting devices and reflectors mounted on the rear
of any vehicle shall display or reflect a RED Color, except the Stoplight or Other Signal Device, which may be Red,
Amber or Yellow, except that the light illuminating the Registration Plate shall be
White and the light emitted by a Backup Lamp shall be White or Amber.

22-221(a) SIDE COWL OR FENDER LAMPS - Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not more than two side
cowl or fender lamps that: (1) Emit an Amber or White Light without glare, and (2) Are located at
or near the front of the vehicle.

22-221(b) RUNNING BOARD COURTESY LAMPS - Any motor vehicle may be equipped on each side of the
vehicle with not more than one running board courtesy lamp that emits a White or Amber light without glare.

NOTE: Green Lights are only permitted on Taxicabs as Flashing “Holdup Lights.” See 22-218(g).

22-205(a) REFLECTORS - In General, After July 1, 1971, every motor vehicle, trailer, etc., shall carry on the rear,
either as part of the tail lamps or separately, two or more RED Reflectors meeting the requirements of this section.

22-205(b) PLACEMENT; VISIBILITY - Every reflector shall be mounted on the vehicle at a height of not more than 60
inches nor less than 15 inches and shall be of such size and characteristics and so mounted as to be visible at

night from all distances within 600 feet to 100 feet from the vehicle when directly in front of lawful upper beams of headlamps, except that visibility at a greater distance is hereinafter required of reflectors on certain types of vehicles. When two reflectors are required, they shall be as widely spaced laterally as practicable.

22-230(c) USING LAMPS OR EQUIPMENT - A person may not use on a motor vehicle, trailer, etc., a Headlamp, Auxiliary
or Fog Lamp, Rear Lamp, Signal Lamp, or Reflector which reflector or lamp is required under this title,
or parts of any of the foregoing, which tend to Change the Original Design or Performance.

22-101(a) DRIVING WITH IMPROPER EQUIPMENT - In General. - A person may not drive and the owner may not cause
or knowingly permit to be driven on any highway any vehicle or combination of vehicles that:
(i) Is in such unsafe condition as to endanger any person; (ii) Does not contain those parts or is not
at all times equipped with lamps and other equipment in proper condition and adjustment
as required in this title; or (iii) Is equipped in any manner in violation of this title.

VIOLATIONS OF ANY OF THESE VIOLATIONS ARE PUNISHABLE BY A TRAFFIC CITATION
WITH A FINE OF $40.00 or $50.00 DEPENDING ON THE SECTION.
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dont' mess with sooner.
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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found the MD laws for you...still wanna argue? (i dont know how you will be able to)

http://mlis.state.md.us/cgi-win/web_...exe?gtr&22-208
http://mlis.state.md.us/cgi-win/web_...exe?gtr&22-209
http://mlis.state.md.us/cgi-win/web_...exe?gtr&22-210
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Originally Posted by choiiiiiiiiiii
dont' mess with sooner.

uhuh.....
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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thank you sooner........ like we already established....my car is illegal......back to clear corners
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Here are a few more dumb laws

Texas
It is illegal for children to have unusual haircuts.
A recently passed anti-crime laws requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and explain to the nature of the crime about to be committed.
It is illegal to milk another person's cow.
In El Paso, churches, hotels, halls of assembly, stores, markets, banking rooms, railroad depots, and saloons are required to have spittoons on hand.
In Houston, it is illegal to sell Limburger cheese on Sunday.
The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home.

oh yah speeding is also illegal, so i guess ill turn my self in for doing 70 in a 55 on my way to work
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sooner, your like a leech... just let it go man....
the newbs are taking over, and i know your trying to stop them from spreading like a disease, but its already been done spreading.
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stocked out max
Here are a few more dumb laws

Texas
It is illegal for children to have unusual haircuts.
A recently passed anti-crime laws requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and explain to the nature of the crime about to be committed.
It is illegal to milk another person's cow.
In El Paso, churches, hotels, halls of assembly, stores, markets, banking rooms, railroad depots, and saloons are required to have spittoons on hand.
In Houston, it is illegal to sell Limburger cheese on Sunday.
The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home.

oh yah speeding is also illegal, so i guess ill turn my self in for doing 70 in a 55 on my way to work
those are all different from car lighting laws that are intended to keep the occupants, pedestrians, and other cars safe.

those dont even compare...but nice try
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Originally Posted by Teufelhunden
sooner, your like a leech... just let it go man....
the newbs are taking over, and i know your trying to stop them from spreading like a disease, but its already been done spreading.
ive been working to keep this place running better for years...why should i just give up
should the mods also stop?
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y cant we all be friends haha
Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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y cant we all be friends haha
we can be friends when i move back to OKC next summer
until then
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depending on the color of the car, i would suggest the smoked corners... you can get them anywhere on ebay and they look nice...

we can go back and forth about the technicalities of which color to have where, etc., but when it comes down to it, people are gonna see you at night if you have your lights on.. there's no situation that i can think of where someone would see a dull yellow or red light, but not a brighter, white light that has better output (which most people put behind clear corners).. just get em.. if you get pulled over then whatever.. just deal with the situation from there
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
we can be friends when i move back to OKC next summer
Dude, with friends like you, who needs enemies? All you ever do is rant about 'the rules' and ***** at people. Grow up. Stop being so negative, it's a horrible personality trait.
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who cares about the laws. we break them everyday. every law has conour laws. so about the lenses GET THEM. buy amber bulbs so you won't have to many issues with cops.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
those are all different from car lighting laws that are intended to keep the occupants, pedestrians, and other cars safe.

those dont even compare...but nice try

you say apple, i say orange, but at the end of the day they are both fruits
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