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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 12:14 AM
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I got my Zaino yesterday and will start applying on Sunday/Monday evening. Can it be applied in the sun? It's very hot in southern california, well not that hot but too hot for me. Anyhow any suggestions and tips would be very much appreciated. one thing to note is that shipping was faster than i thought it would be. Take care people.
Old Aug 4, 2001 | 02:21 AM
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Spend tons of time on prepping the car first - get it squeeky clean, touch up all chips, etc. Then, follow Sal's directions exactly. If you do this, the car will look awesome and the finish will be very durable.
Old Aug 4, 2001 | 02:40 AM
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i would highly reccomend doing it in the shade...if you leave the wax in the sun for too long, it will often crack which will have negative effects rather than positive on your paint
Old Aug 4, 2001 | 05:04 AM
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It is acceptable to apply it in the sun. This stuff does not harden as do most waxes/polishes. I believe the website mentions application in direct sunlight. I do mine in the sun since I have no shade. When using the clay bar, though, they recommend a cool surface.

Per their website, follow the instructions as they are written and be sure to look at the tips/tricks section: the results will be outstanding.
Old Aug 4, 2001 | 07:34 AM
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You won't be disappointed with Zaino! We spent a lot of time washing/polishing etc. but the results are shocking. I'd suggest letting the polish dry in the sun but moving to the shade to begin removing. The sun will help speed up the drying time. Do exactly like the directions say. Make sure to get it very clean and dry before beginning any polish application. I know it's a pain in the butt, but the results really are amazing.

Make sure to read the sticky up above. Lots of great suggestions in there.

One we found to be real helpful was, when rinsing the car...take any kind of nozzle or sprayer off the hose and to turn down the water flow (slower pace), then just hold it a little bit above the car.

The water will sheet off when you move the hose away. This makes it ALOT easier when you go to dry the car.

Hope that helps.
Old Aug 4, 2001 | 08:45 AM
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man....

Originally posted by Menacer
I got my Zaino yesterday and will start applying on Sunday?monday evening. Can it be applied in the sun? It's very hot in southern california, well not that hot but too hot for me. Anyhow any suggestions and tips would be very much appreciated. one thing to note is that shipping was faster than i thought it would be. Take care people.
I don't know but.. i think im gonna order more zaino stuff...

I went today to 2 car detaling places, they told me 100 dollars for exterior only. I can't pay somebody 100 dollars for that crap. and aside from that, they said my car would be super shiny BUT a majority of the scrathes and swirl marks would still be there. You just would'nt care because its so glossy and shiny. But i do care, i want NO swirls or scrathes...
So its either buy the new Mguiars Scratch X stuff or order more zaino.


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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 08:49 AM
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So would you testify??

Originally posted by MissMaxima
You won't be disappointed with Zaino! We spent a lot of time washing/polishing etc. but the results are shocking. I'd suggest letting the polish dry in the sun but moving to the shade to begin removing. The sun will help speed up the drying time. Do exactly like the directions say. Make sure to get it very clean and dry before beginning any polish application. I know it's a pain in the butt, but the results really are amazing.

Make sure to read the sticky up above. Lots of great suggestions in there.

One we found to be real helpful was, when rinsing the car...take any kind of nozzle or sprayer off the hose and to turn down the water flow (slower pace), then just hold it a little bit above the car.

The water will sheet off when you move the hose away. This makes it ALOT easier when you go to dry the car.

Hope that helps.
Would you testify that your is COMPLETELY scratch and swirl free because of Zaino?
Zaino is awesome, it worked great and i am amazed, but not PERFECT. I still had scratches.. How long have you owned your car MissMaxima.. just curious. Maybe i'm doing something wrong.
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dammit i wish i knew bout zaino when i bought the car
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 08:53 AM
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Re: So would you testify??

Nothing other than a new coat will completely scratch & swirl free ....

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Would you testify that your is COMPLETELY scratch and swirl free because of Zaino?
Zaino is awesome, it worked great and i am amazed, but not PERFECT. I still had scratches.. How long have you owned your car MissMaxima.. just curious. Maybe i'm doing something wrong.
Roger
dammit i wish i knew bout zaino when i bought the car
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 09:05 AM
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watch the humidity

thats about the only thing that extends drying time..so dont do it near the beach!
The very first time I Zainoed, it seemed to take about half a day. I was sorta nervous using all that expensive stuff, wanted to do it JUST right according to the instructions and ended up doing it real slow. Now that I have a base coat of the stuff on, I can wash and Zaino thru all the steps in about an hour and a half..it's a breeze
Old Aug 15, 2001 | 09:19 AM
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For best results use the clay bar first, especially if your car is a couple of years old. It smooths the surface really well and it's easy to use. I didn't use the clay bar the first time on my new car and this summer I clayed it. Much nicer. If you don't have a Zaino clay bar you can pick one up at Pep Boys or any auto shop. The key is to use very little to do the car. I have found it difficult to use as little as they suggest. It seems like nothing is going on the car. Good luck.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 02:42 AM
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Check out my homepage to see the results of zaino on my car and tell me what you think. Under the links section click next page to see more. Since i used Geocities you might have to refresh. Thanks so much to all for your advisement. I appreciate it.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 02:59 AM
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Would you testify that your is COMPLETELY scratch and swirl free because of Zaino?
Zaino is awesome, it worked great and i am amazed, but not PERFECT. I still had scratches.. How long have you owned your car MissMaxima.. just curious. Maybe i'm doing something wrong.
Our car is a little over 2 months old AND she's looking pretty still!

I can't say if zaino will make your car perfect. I don't know if a product can remove what will eventually happen....other than re-painting the car - haha! I know how you feel about that. Since our car is still new, it'd be nice to try to keep it that way.

Ours has some light scratches/swirl marks? But, it may have been from one or two of the towels used. It states to use 100% cotton terry cloth towels...cannon or fieldcrest. So that could be the culprit in our case.

I do know that after doing zaino that, any imperfections seemed to be really noticable. So, that could lead me to believe that it will reduce some of the appearace of scratches and swirl marks. (we had a small spot that had rock chips, on the hood, and had used touch up paint...GRRRR)
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 03:20 AM
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I suggest that you wash the 100% towels Zaino recommends before you used them. I used them brand new and i got lots of lint/cotton all over my sisters car and I think it actually scratched her paint. Lite scratches that is. I did not noticed and swirl marks after using z-5 but the scratches were still there.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by Menacer
I suggest that you wash the 100% towels Zaino recommends before you used them. I used them brand new and i got lots of lint/cotton all over my sisters car and I think it actually scratched her paint. Lite scratches that is. I did not noticed and swirl marks after using z-5 but the scratches were still there.
whoa ... saw your page ... u mite want 2 consider using lower byte pix! They take 4ever!

n e ways .. Zaino looks sharp! I can't really c it on the white car .. but on the RAV4 ... WOW!

tkx!
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 08:16 AM
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Not so sure...

I dunno - I spent the better part of a day cleaning and applying Zaino to my car. Dropped 70(+) bucks on clay bars and bottles and new towels, followed the directions and all totaled rubbed down my Max, oh, 20 times. That's wash twice, rinse 3 times, dry, clay bar, rub off, prep layer (is it Z3?) 3 times with a rub-off between each, finish layer twice with a rub between each and a spritz-with-the-spray-bottle between each, and a final spritz and wipe. After all that, I was ready to go back to bed!

It certainly looked very good and is very durable - it's been 4 months since I applied it and it still cleans up nice. My biggest complaint - besides the immense amount of effort - is how it performs in adverse weather. Water spots galore in even the slightest rain, and hard water spots (from the occasional stray sprinkler) seem to bond to the finish. Not even the special Zaino clean-up spray would remove them.

My other bummer was that my scratches, nicks and blemishes appeared even *more* noticable. Part of that is just that a better finish always pronounces the imperfections in the surface. But it was supposed to remove swirl marks and help a little; instead, I think I can actually see the swirls in my spoiler from the front porch! Augh!

I dropped 70 bucks last week (again) and had it professionally detailed. *They* spent the better part of a day cleaning it, hand- and machine-buffing it, and applying two coats of yellow carnauba wax (**without** a cleaner in it - that's the secret to a good build-up of wax). It looks excellent - as excellent as Zaino did in its first week - and many of the blemishes are *completely gone* if not at least much less noticable. (I'll throw some pics up when I get a chance.) The really excellent part is that water runs right off it (even sprinkler water) without so much as a mark. That's why I wax my car in the first place - not so much to make it look nice, but to *keep* it that way.

Both approaches cost me way too much, in my estimation. But one was a lot less work (for me). And one came with a free vacuum job. :-)

Unless I win the lottery I'm not going to be doing either on a regular basis. But I can apply a good (non-cleaning) yellow carnauba myself at home for a lot less and it seems to look good and protect my beloved (but hard to keep clean) black Max. Which is the point, right?

I'm gonna look into the Meguair's Scratch X stuff - I know their Gold Class wax makes for a gorgeous finish. But I dunno gang - I heard about Zaino on this forum, and although my fellow Max-heads have yet to lead me astray, I would say think twice before devoting a whole day to Zaino-ing your Max, especially if it might ever get dirty.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 08:28 AM
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damn .. I wish people were consistent with the results from Zaino-ing ...
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 09:23 AM
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Re: Not so sure...

Originally posted by schuss
I dunno - I spent the better part of a day cleaning and applying Zaino to my car. Dropped 70(+) bucks on clay bars and bottles and new towels, followed the directions and all totaled rubbed down my Max, oh, 20 times. That's wash twice, rinse 3 times, dry, clay bar, rub off, prep layer (is it Z3?) 3 times with a rub-off between each, finish layer twice with a rub between each and a spritz-with-the-spray-bottle between each, and a final spritz and wipe. After all that, I was ready to go back to bed!

I don't think you followed directions if you did all of that in one day. I don't have time to check the web-site, but I remember reading something about waiting 24 hours before applying the next coat. Also sounds like you may have used too much if you depleted your entire supply. You should use very little, though it is very difficult to do so. I can't say this is why you are experiencing problems with water spots, but I have not noticed that on my sterling mist Max. In fact just the opposite-the rain rolls right off. The initial clay bar, prepping and polishing take a while, but maintenance down the line is minimal-a couple of hours to wash, spritz stuff (Z-7), and apply Z-2.

My biggest complaint - besides the immense amount of effort - is how it performs in adverse weather. Water spots galore in even the slightest rain, and hard water spots (from the occasional stray sprinkler) seem to bond to the finish. Not even the special Zaino clean-up spray would remove them.

Both approaches cost me way too much, in my estimation. But one was a lot less work (for me). And one came with a free vacuum job. :-)
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:49 AM
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most people are happy

From reading posts here, BMW, Acura people are happy with Zaino. Only downsizes would be price, and the various steps required. I got mine yesterday. The pink Z2 looks good, and the Z5 smells very nice :-). I think I will wash today, and do the Z1 and Z5. Later this weekend do another Z5, then Z2. Hopefully no more than an hour for each.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 11:24 AM
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Wax timing...

While we're on this issue, is there any substance to the request from the Nissan dealerships that I not wax my vehicle for 6 months after purchase to allow some kind of sealer to "work" whatever that means. I've only had her for a month now and I don't want to mess anything up by waxing, which is what the dealer implied....Thanks in advance.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:36 PM
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Does anyone knoe the exact diffrence from z2 and z5? I started with z1, z2,z5, z2. Next time I will start with z5, z5 and z2.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:37 PM
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Does anyone know the exact diffrence from z2 and z5? I started with z1, z2,z5, z2. Next time I will start with z5, z5 and z2.
Old Aug 16, 2001 | 10:42 PM
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what is the exact diffrence between z5 and z2 besides z5 being a swirl mark and scratch remover?
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