Top Speed Runs
About all those recent threads dealing with top speed claims. I have to wonder just how accurate they are, given all the tolerances on measuring rpm's, actual tire diameter (accounting for wear or different tire mfr even for the same size), accuracy of the speedometer itself, etc.
This isn't intended as a flame or a dispute of anybody's observations, just curiosity over how good the speedo display really is up there at the top of the dial.
Norm
This isn't intended as a flame or a dispute of anybody's observations, just curiosity over how good the speedo display really is up there at the top of the dial.
Norm
Originally posted by Norm Peterson
About all those recent threads dealing with top speed claims. I have to wonder just how accurate they are, given all the tolerances on measuring rpm's, actual tire diameter (accounting for wear or different tire mfr even for the same size), accuracy of the speedometer itself, etc.
About all those recent threads dealing with top speed claims. I have to wonder just how accurate they are, given all the tolerances on measuring rpm's, actual tire diameter (accounting for wear or different tire mfr even for the same size), accuracy of the speedometer itself, etc.
Top speed runs to me means two timed runs in opposite directions, to cancel out wind, elevation change and bad mojo. Elevation and temperature corrections are okay, though.
At 140mph, if the linear error in my speedo really is linear, it'll read over 5mph high.
A few related thoughts . . .
I've got a spreadsheet (under continual development) that mathematically models acceleration. Top speed is defined as the point at which acceleration equals zero. Here's a brief summary of some of what happens:
For a car that tops out in the mid 150's, one of the things that comes out of that sheet is that the last mph will require over half a mile of road. The last 3 mph need perhaps 1.25 mile (that's 4 or 5 times the distance needed for the entire first 100 mph to get only the last 3). From rest, you're looking at over 3 miles. So even if it feels like it's still pulling pretty good at, say, 145, be careful about overestimating how much faster than that you could really go. The aerodynamic wall that you may be about hit doesn't give as much warning as you might think.
Norm
For a car that tops out in the mid 150's, one of the things that comes out of that sheet is that the last mph will require over half a mile of road. The last 3 mph need perhaps 1.25 mile (that's 4 or 5 times the distance needed for the entire first 100 mph to get only the last 3). From rest, you're looking at over 3 miles. So even if it feels like it's still pulling pretty good at, say, 145, be careful about overestimating how much faster than that you could really go. The aerodynamic wall that you may be about hit doesn't give as much warning as you might think.
Norm
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Simply GPS, a laptop that plots out points on sections of road, and run it. Have a link up to constantly update and have someone run in one of the lanes behind or in front and make sure that the 3-5 miles you have in front of you are 'unoccupied.'
-Peace
Simply GPS, a laptop that plots out points on sections of road, and run it. Have a link up to constantly update and have someone run in one of the lanes behind or in front and make sure that the 3-5 miles you have in front of you are 'unoccupied.'
-Peace
Lots of the newer GPS units have a speed feature built in. I think that would be the most accurate way.
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