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Old 08-29-2001, 08:38 PM
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Well, today I had a bit of a nervous experience on the road. We have had bad rains lately and today was one of the worst. I just entered a freeway, luckly no one was on it really around me. I got into the center lane accerating. I was around 55 or so when all of a sudden I hit some water I did not see, it wasn't visable (it was pouring), the ****ty tires lost it, hydroplanned, car started pushing hard to the right, I compensated the steering, well it it helped , but all of a sudden my rear end started to hydroplane too! Oh **** I said, The car was sliding at a 45 degree angle down the freeway. I turned the steering carefully to the left towards the direction I was going, it got traction again and pulled me straight. I was shaking like crazy after that. Never had that happen to me on the highway or at that speed. These tires SUCK! Very dangerous!
 
Old 08-29-2001, 09:05 PM
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I hear ya. I agree that the tires suck. I have slipped with those tires too many times. Maybe it's just my driving style though. I've got 10000 miles on my Max and I rotated those tires at 5000 miles and all tires look like slicks. There is like no tread left. Is that suppose to happen so quickly?
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Old 08-29-2001, 09:07 PM
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I hear ya. I agree that the tires suck. I have slipped with those tires too many times. Maybe it's just my driving style though. I've got 10000 miles on my Max and I rotated those tires at 5000 miles and all tires look like slicks. There is like no tread left. Is that suppose to happen so quickly?
I got 9k on mine, and still half the tread left, but they aren't doing to well..
 
Old 08-29-2001, 09:15 PM
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Which tires do you have?

Do you guys have the stock Potenzas or Proxes? Or maybe i'm confused and 2001s come with only one brand of tire.

I had Proxes A05s on my 2000 Maxima SE. They kind of sucked too for wet traction. I got 22k miles from them, and the rear tires are still good for maybe another 20k.

I swapped to Nitto 555 tires, they've done well in bad weather.

Russ, you're from Texas, right? It's been raining like nuts in Houston the past few days.

Drive carefully.

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Old 08-30-2001, 12:13 AM
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Yo Buddy ...

Good to hear you're OK Russ.


Do you think Maxima owners should do a Class Action Law Suite and see if we can get Better tires???

Because in the WINTER they are HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-30-2001, 12:39 AM
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good to hear you managed to wrangle it back on track. just swap out the tires. as far as i'm concerned it's cheap insurance... and i'm no millionaire.
i've had sidewall failure on TWO of my potenzas. i'm in california, so water isn't too much of a concern, but with weak sidewalls, they're not safe regardless of water. i can't imagine driving them in wetter climes.
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Old 08-30-2001, 05:30 AM
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Re: Which tires do you have?

Yeah I live in San Antonio. I have the stock Potenza's. Uggg.

Originally posted by Tanmann9
Do you guys have the stock Potenzas or Proxes? Or maybe i'm confused and 2001s come with only one brand of tire.

I had Proxes A05s on my 2000 Maxima SE. They kind of sucked too for wet traction. I got 22k miles from them, and the rear tires are still good for maybe another 20k.

I swapped to Nitto 555 tires, they've done well in bad weather.

Russ, you're from Texas, right? It's been raining like nuts in Houston the past few days.

Drive carefully.

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Old 08-30-2001, 06:46 AM
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I've experienced that before..... not fun.
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Old 08-30-2001, 07:01 AM
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Potenzas + rain = possible disaster....
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:39 AM
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Russ glad to hear that your OK!

i've had that happen once or twice in the rain but not as severe.

As for the PROTENDAS - THEY SUCK!

I have 9600 miles on the car and half the front tread is gone.
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:45 AM
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Same situation here. Been hydroplaning like crazy the past couple of days here. Fronts are wearing out fast at 10k. I have some fun occasionally but don't regularly 'burn-out' or push too hard into corners.

These tires emphatically SUCK!!!
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:47 AM
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just imagine doing that on the crappy GXE stock tires

or imagine driving a car that weighs 2100lbs, FWD, and has smaller brakes than bicycles :eek2:

least you didn't break anything!

thought about changing to different tires?
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Old 08-30-2001, 08:50 AM
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I think it is safe to say we all have thought about changing...problem is the known famous and long debate on the shortage of replacement tires in teh stock size and the controversy over 'exceeding rim widths'.

I just want them off my car!!! I may even go cheap like Firehawk LH's or something to get me through for a while and wait to see if other manufacturers finally start producing ones that are a direct fit. Even going with cheap temporary tires could not likely be worse than driving on the RE92's.
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Old 08-30-2001, 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by 2K1MaxMan
I hear ya. I agree that the tires suck. I have slipped with those tires too many times. Maybe it's just my driving style though. I've got 10000 miles on my Max and I rotated those tires at 5000 miles and all tires look like slicks. There is like no tread left. Is that suppose to happen so quickly?
I got a bit more than 20k on my stock 225/50/17 V Protenzas and think that will get another 15 out of them. Rotation is done every 7500m.

Tanmann9 - what size Nittos do you have ? How do you like them?
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Originally posted by jjs
the controversy over 'exceeding rim widths'.

What's the max rim width on an alloy GXE?
Mine is currently stock 215/55/16. I would like
to go 225/50/16. Is it possible?
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Old 08-30-2001, 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Teser


Tanmann9 - what size Nittos do you have ? How do you like them?
18" 235/40/18s Nitto NT555 Xtreme's I think they are. Got 18" rims of course. Work pretty well. I've heard Kumho's are just as good and even less expensive. Heard bad stuff about Pirelli P7000 Sport tires.

Been driving through some heavy rain recently and I feel a little bit of un-surefootedness from the tires, like I could possibly hydroplane or lose control, but doing ok so far.

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Old 08-30-2001, 11:32 AM
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well...

stock tires always suck alittle. They are a middle of the road compromise. Want something ultra sticky? fine, you wont have any wet handling. Want a aquatread? Be ready to take turns at posted speed or less...

I think the moral of the story is if you *cant* see the puddle of water because it's raining *that* hard and you blast thru it at 55, you're guaranteed to hydroplane.

You would have been ticketed for too fast for conditions had you wrecked.

While the Goodyear HP Ultra sucks in many ways, they pump a ton of water. they are one of the few tires that will pump water well all the way thru treadwear. True "aquatreads" dont pump so well after 1/2 treadwear I've been told.
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Re: well...

I agree with TimW because I was driving my girl's Saturn home from a snowboarding trip and it was pouring. Posted speed limit there on I-5 was 60mph I was going around 50mph and got stuck in one of those ditches that those damn rigs make in the road.
I tried to edge my way out slowly and the whole car hydroplaned and spun twice. On our second time around and with the steering wheel cranked into the direction of the slide. Some freak with a death wish driving a Camaro was not slowing down....we rubbed and he went flying. He hit the wall and lost his rear axle. I on the other hand had a little crayon mark on my girls car, recovered and checked if he was alright. Of course the ***** was holding his neck and immediately called the cops. Cop shows up and writes me a ticket for "driving to fast for conditions". I fought it in court and the judge said that no matter how fast I was going if I hydroplaned I was driving too fast. I blame the Saturn.
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Old 08-31-2001, 08:40 AM
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have any of you thought to upgrade to the proxes T1. I have them and only get about 10k miles out of them but I think that you will have a hard time finding a tire that give that kind of wet and dry traction at that price. the 205/45/16 were $160/tire.
 
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Originally posted by Miata Nut
have any of you thought to upgrade to the proxes T1. I have them and only get about 10k miles out of them but I think that you will have a hard time finding a tire that give that kind of wet and dry traction at that price. the 205/45/16 were $160/tire.
16s might look ok on a Miata, but Maxima's look better with 17 or 18" wheels and tires. How much are the Proxes T1 in 17 or 18"?
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