very simple story i was on my way to work in the city of coto de caza
so i was coming up on the 241 pay booth and there was a 2002 in another booth he pays his toll and goes on, I think nothing of it but he was like waiting on me, so when i start accelerating away from the booth he like swurves next me and start accelerating back and forth. so he punched i down shift to 3rd he started a half car in front of me by 135 i was about a little more than a car on him. SURPRISING


travis
zero tolerance

 

some people dont race their cars while in break-in period...is there a chance he limited his revs to 4000 like it says in the manual?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R



some people dont race their cars while in break-in period...is there a chance he limited his revs to 4000 like it says in the manual? [/QU


he could of been out of the break in period since it was him to provoke the race. and if he limited his revs to 4000 i would have walked away from him like crazy i have about the same power as him so you tell me. i dont know.


travis
zero tolerance

 

What kind of wheels are those Travis?

 

i've been thinking...

2K max stick dynos at 190hp of 222 = 85% useful hp (15% drivetrain loss)

2K max auto dynos at 160hp of 222 = 72% useful hp (28% drivetrain loss)

2K2 max auto at 255 with 72% is 183 hp

therefore a 2k stick max with little or no mods will out dyno a 2k2 max and may beat it!!!!

 

Sorry for this stupid question but does that mean that auto Maxs only have 160 useable bhp?

 

zenetti vegas i might be selling them in about a month if you like them

travis
zero tolerance

 

i dont bewieve it how 'bout 2002 6spd vs. 2000 5 spd?
or 2002 3.5 Altima manual vs 2000 manual?

 

yep, 160 wheel HP, sorry to say but most auto max's on this board dyno 30hp less than sticks, not to mention even less if they are 2001, cali emmissions.

 

Sucks

 

I havent seen any dyno's for altima so can't speak to that.

The 2k2 stick should dyno 216hp to the wheels but may differ with the different gearing ratios. (sounds like the peak hp may will be lower but have more in the lower rpms)

 

I wouldnt doubt it, the 02 probably wasnt broken in when he pushed it against you, (hurts just thinking about it), after a proper break-in the power output will probably increase, and with your mods and stuff your probably at par with the '02 auto , but imagine a 6-spd manual 2002 fully modded like most of you guys, ahhh so sweet

 

you cant just estimate like that. youmight be prretty much on par, but for the most part, your wrong with the numbers. im guessin there will be less power lost with the new tranny.

 

sucks, doesn't it???

 

Where does the other 60 go?? So the 4th gens put out less at the wheels than an auto 5th gen or not?

 

Thats a big difference there...C5 corvettes lose 15% with manuel and 18% with automatic

 

thats why the 0-60 times are not as different like the max. (numbers according to car mags)
2000 corvette(not c5) stick 0-60 is 4.8 and auto is 5.2 (only .4 secs slower)
2000 max stick 0-60 is 6.7 and auto is more like 8 (over 1 sec slower)

The calculations I did are just estimates assuming everything is the same. They apply to 5th gen only but the same can be done to 4th gen if you look at a few stock dyno plots. I think this is a good estimate because not a lot has changed in the 2k2 max. We'll just have to see when the first 2k2 gets dyno'd to see if the tranny is better/worse.

 

Therefore, more hp means slower car.

 

The VQ may have gotten bigger and better, but the automagic is still the same 4 speed auto. The 5 speed has grown to a 6 speed on the SE though, which is ALL good

DW

 

NIssan dealer told me that the 5 speed is gone. The SE will offer the 6 speed and the gxe, gle will be auto only.

 

whoa....

160 fwhp is where most stock Accord V6's dyno at with our mandatory auto tranny. 28% drivetrain loss is ridiculous. I thought most automagic Maxima's dynoed at around 170 fwhp stock, only 20 below the stick.

Both cars weigh about the same and I know a stock Maxima/auto is a little faster (if powershifted at redline) so there's no way it only has 160 fwhp stock. It's gotta be 170 fwhp or so... Even 170 sounds a little low.

 

The calif emission cars do not dyno any less than the fed..this was proven.

 

My auto stock dynoed 164...hp for a 2000 auto fed.

 

peak hp is the same but there is less in the throughout the power band. Also there is a differnce of 10ftlb torque less in the dyno I saw but the peak was the same. I guess thats why nissan does not have to state different hp numbers because they all end up at the same number. I have a cali emmissions auto, I of al people wish I was wrong on this.

 

my friend has a stock 95 GLE he beats any Accord, auto or stick. Maximas are much faster.

 

hehe, yes, I know that most Maxima's will own Accord's. I didn't buy an Accord to go fast. If going fast was my first priority I would have bought a 2k1 Max SE 5spd, but I had other things that were higher up on my list in buying a car

Your friend's 95 GLE ought to be mighty quick. 190 HP VQ and it weighs 300lb less than my Accord V6.

I respect the Max

 

DEFINITELY let me know!