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Old 10-04-2001, 07:44 PM
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LED project continues tomarrow evening..

I might have figured it out with the help of one other max owner here. I also had to use some ohms law as well to figure out what resistor I need exactly for my leds. So I will let everyone know how it comes out. I will try to work on the car tomarrow evening if I get some time.

This is on adding more additional led's to the stock alarm...

Blue colored.
 
Old 10-04-2001, 08:09 PM
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Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

Also, if you guys want a easier way to hook it up. I found these on the the net. http://www.directron.com/led.html They are in houston, and these have 3 wires. 12v, ground, and alarm signal. Basically you hook it up to all the wires on your clock that you need and this will power up fine!

Regular bright leds like I have require a resistor as well and a sorta different way to hook up to make them work. I will let you guys know.
 
Old 10-04-2001, 08:27 PM
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12v LEDs

not sure if this will help...

Radio shack has 12V LEDs, that might eliminate your need for a resister. I used them to replace my 194s in the doors. $1 each.
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Old 10-04-2001, 08:33 PM
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yea if u get a 12v led no nees for resistors.. i did the same as theMax did and i didn't need it.. but for my doam light i need them so i can have more led's work off of one line.. so i have 6 ultra white led's in my doam light.. and its bright as hell...
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Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
I might have figured it out with the help of one other max owner here. I also had to use some ohms law as well to figure out what resistor I need exactly for my leds. So I will let everyone know how it comes out. I will try to work on the car tomarrow evening if I get some time.

This is on adding more additional led's to the stock alarm...

Blue colored.
Hey hope the help works out. Cause I am fairly sure with the info me and you came up with, that it HAS to work.

I am gonna get the 12V ones and do it that way. But hope yours works out.
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Old 10-05-2001, 05:35 AM
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yea if u get a 12v led no nees for resistors.. i did the same as theMax did and i didn't need it.. but for my doam light i need them so i can have more led's work off of one line.. so i have 6 ultra white led's in my doam light.. and its bright as hell...
My current LED's are 5v leds from radioshack that was recommened. They do not carry 12v LEDs at radioshack. They are hard to find in blue.
 
Old 10-05-2001, 01:08 PM
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12V leds

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They do not carry 12v LEDs at radioshack.
Calling me a liar....I ordered the 12V leds online at www.radioshack.com because the store was out of stock.
Part number is below from their webpage (276-0209). I emailed their customer support with what I wanted and they returned a list of part numbers for the correct colors. Hope this helps.


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12 V LED (276-0209) Specifications Faxback Doc. # 16504

Reverse Voltage:.......................................... ..............5 V
Reverse current (Vr=5V):.......................................... ....10 uA
Operating Temperature Range:..................................-40 C to 85 C
Storage Temperature Range:...................................-40 C to 100 C
Led Soldering Temperature:..............................260 C for 5 seconds
[1.6mm (1/16 inch) From Body]


(ALL-08/16/95)
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Old 10-05-2001, 03:44 PM
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Sorry but that is not the LED. I SAID BLUE..... in BLUE they do not carry them. I went to radio shack and looked online. In 12v they do not.

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Calling me a liar....I ordered the 12V leds online at www.radioshack.com because the store was out of stock.
Part number is below from their webpage (276-0209). I emailed their customer support with what I wanted and they returned a list of part numbers for the correct colors. Hope this helps.


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12 V LED (276-0209) Specifications Faxback Doc. # 16504

Reverse Voltage:.......................................... ..............5 V
Reverse current (Vr=5V):.......................................... ....10 uA
Operating Temperature Range:..................................-40 C to 85 C
Storage Temperature Range:...................................-40 C to 100 C
Led Soldering Temperature:..............................260 C for 5 seconds
[1.6mm (1/16 inch) From Body]


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Old 10-24-2001, 05:19 PM
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Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
I might have figured it out with the help of one other max owner here. I also had to use some ohms law as well to figure out what resistor I need exactly for my leds. So I will let everyone know how it comes out. I will try to work on the car tomarrow evening if I get some time.

This is on adding more additional led's to the stock alarm...

Blue colored.
uhm so what colors did you get for the resistor?
what the ohm?
i'm trying to basically do the same


Thanks
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Re: Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

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uhm so what colors did you get for the resistor?
what the ohm?
i'm trying to basically do the same


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I think he got lazy and bought the LEDs that I have (3 wires, power, ground, and security).
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uhm so what colors did you get for the resistor?
what the ohm?
i'm trying to basically do the same


Thanks
220~ ohms for 5v leds. But it depends on what amps the leds are, and now I forgot what mine were. I think .20 amp, not positive. Whatever it was it came out to near 220ohms with this formula..

Ohm = (Mains Voltage - LED Voltage) / LED Amperes, so;
Ohm = (12 Volts - 1.5 Volts) / 0.015 A



I bought the 3 wire leds as well but not used them yet.
 
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what i'd really like to do is use LEDs in my dash... that would be insane... but.. but... i'm scared...
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Re: Re: Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I think he got lazy and bought the LEDs that I have (3 wires, power, ground, and security).
oh... hehe

i figured i will need a 450 ohm resistor

just have to test that now...
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Re: Re: Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

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220~ ohms for 5v leds. But it depends on what amps the leds are, and now I forgot what mine were. I think .20 amp, not positive. Whatever it was it came out to near 220ohms with this formula..

Ohm = (Mains Voltage - LED Voltage) / LED Amperes, so;
Ohm = (12 Volts - 1.5 Volts) / 0.015 A



I bought the 3 wire leds as well but not used them yet.

"6000 mcd 5mm Ultra Bright BLUE LED
Operates on 2.5 - 3 VDC @ 20mA.
6000 mcd typical luminosity T1-3/4 (5mm) Blue. 466nm, 29.5° viewing angle"

so from that i get:
(12-3)/0.020=450


i've been a LED freak since i was like 12... taking them out of used vcr's and ****... i'm probably gonna plug them everwhere in my max hehe


hmm quick question, if i hook up one led to the next...
ie:

(-)----|--|-----|--|-----(+)
| | | |
\ -/ \ -/
\/ \/

assuming both leds are 3 volts, I would need 6 volts to power them
fully right? or would 3 volts cover both with enough power?

if i need 6 volts to light up both leds, then i simply need 4 leds
to accept the 12 volts?

just giggle if i'm wrong, and then proceed to correct me

hehe

thanks
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Re: Re: Re: Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

Originally posted by multiplexor



"6000 mcd 5mm Ultra Bright BLUE LED
Operates on 2.5 - 3 VDC @ 20mA.
6000 mcd typical luminosity T1-3/4 (5mm) Blue. 466nm, 29.5° viewing angle"

so from that i get:
(12-3)/0.020=450


i've been a LED freak since i was like 12... taking them out of used vcr's and ****... i'm probably gonna plug them everwhere in my max hehe


hmm quick question, if i hook up one led to the next...
ie:

(-)----|--|-----|--|-----(+)
| | | |
\ -/ \ -/
\/ \/

assuming both leds are 3 volts, I would need 6 volts to power them
fully right? or would 3 volts cover both with enough power?

if i need 6 volts to light up both leds, then i simply need 4 leds
to accept the 12 volts?

just giggle if i'm wrong, and then proceed to correct me

hehe

thanks
you would need 3volts across each LED hence a total 6 volts.
there would be 6volts remaining, so true you could use total of 4 LEDs
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haha wow my diagram didn't turn up as i wanted it to

yikes...

hmm cool good to know 4 leds would work.

so theoretically... if i use 4 leds and hook them up
to the dome light (which is 12 volts right?)
then it should work properly, without a resistor?
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Old 10-25-2001, 10:07 AM
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Each led will need its own resistor and its own separate connection. You can't do them all behind one resistor, it will make too much of a load.

Originally posted by multiplexor



"6000 mcd 5mm Ultra Bright BLUE LED
Operates on 2.5 - 3 VDC @ 20mA.
6000 mcd typical luminosity T1-3/4 (5mm) Blue. 466nm, 29.5° viewing angle"

so from that i get:
(12-3)/0.020=450


i've been a LED freak since i was like 12... taking them out of used vcr's and ****... i'm probably gonna plug them everwhere in my max hehe


hmm quick question, if i hook up one led to the next...
ie:

(-)----|--|-----|--|-----(+)
| | | |
\ -/ \ -/
\/ \/

assuming both leds are 3 volts, I would need 6 volts to power them
fully right? or would 3 volts cover both with enough power?

if i need 6 volts to light up both leds, then i simply need 4 leds
to accept the 12 volts?

just giggle if i'm wrong, and then proceed to correct me

hehe

thanks
 
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Each led will need its own resistor and its own separate connection. You can't do them all behind one resistor, it will make too much of a load.

That would be true if he were hooking the led's up in parallel, but he isn't. He is going to hook them up in series. If he does that then he can get away with using 4 LED's and no resistor.

Essentially what he is doing, is the same thing you are doing with your pull down resistor. You have a potential that is too high and you need to match that with the level of your LED, so you put a resistor in series with the LED's to chew up some of the voltage and then you have enough for your LED but you won't blow it up. Plain and simple. No need to hook each LED up to it's own pull down resistor.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LED project continues tomarrow evening..

Originally posted by Dustyroads

That would be true if he were hooking the led's up in parallel, but he isn't. He is going to hook them up in series. If he does that then he can get away with using 4 LED's and no resistor.

Essentially what he is doing, is the same thing you are doing with your pull down resistor. You have a potential that is too high and you need to match that with the level of your LED, so you put a resistor in series with the LED's to chew up some of the voltage and then you have enough for your LED but you won't blow it up. Plain and simple. No need to hook each LED up to it's own pull down resistor.
True, it would look like

+ 12v -|>-|>-|>-|> - gnd ( 20 ma flows ->)
3v 3v 3v 3v
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True, it would look like

+ 12v -|>-|>-|>-|> - gnd ( 20 ma flows ->)
3v 3v 3v 3v
yeah exactly like that

this way no resistor would be needed since the leds would be eating up the voltage properly.
sweet stuff...

maybe i'll hookup 2 bright whites and 2 blues?
seems like a fun little thing to mess around with

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