Wilwood calipers: use the red ones they sent me?
10-10-2007, 07:37 PM
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is this supposed to be the ideal sized-piston for our car regarding prevention of brake-bias? I've read a post in the NYC forum where this guys sells the similar kit and he vowed that his kit is better because of the matched piston size.
10-10-2007, 07:58 PM
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as to "a guy on the NYC forum" vs. an established company like fastbrakes.....I'll go with fastbrakes' opionion
10-10-2007, 08:15 PM
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well, this kit is actually made for the 6th gen maxima/ Altima SE-R, which have larger single pistons stock than the 5th gens do. That said, I've always believed that our stock pistons were too small in the first place.
as to "a guy on the NYC forum" vs. an established company like fastbrakes.....I'll go with fastbrakes' opionion
as to "a guy on the NYC forum" vs. an established company like fastbrakes.....I'll go with fastbrakes' opionion
I'm waiting for my set to arrive....fastbrake stated that they are currently on backorder. Let us know how you like them.
10-11-2007, 02:32 PM
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well, this kit is actually made for the 6th gen maxima/ Altima SE-R, which have larger single pistons stock than the 5th gens do. That said, I've always believed that our stock pistons were too small in the first place.
as to "a guy on the NYC forum" vs. an established company like fastbrakes.....I'll go with fastbrakes' opionion
as to "a guy on the NYC forum" vs. an established company like fastbrakes.....I'll go with fastbrakes' opionion
You have to match the diamter of the 4 pistons so it will be the same diameter as the stock maxima piston.
And your second statement- there are people that make parts that are better in every aspect then a company. Its a proven fact...
Research into things before you make statements like that. Or you sound like a newbie. :stfu:
10-11-2007, 02:33 PM
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10-11-2007, 03:00 PM
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matter of opinion...
actually, not necessarily true. If this was the case, why are the 6th gen calipers (which are much larger pistons than the 5th gen) so much more effective than our stockers. As long as the MC can handle this piston bore, the system will work fine.
oh, a "proven fact?" Ok, go ahead and provide proof.
what are you, retarded? It's called a "generalization," look it up.
In general, a large company is going to have better qualty control than a guy making stuff in his garage. Of coure that isn't always the case - there are some excellent small manufacturers out there - but when it comes to small tolerances, computer-designed and milled parts are almost always better than something done "by hand." Take Matt's z32 brackets for example....a great product, but the fit tolerances are always a bit off....Big companies have more money and more resources for testing at their disposal than the amateur fabricator.
:stfu:
Let me guess, you're "the guy on the NY maximas forum".....
If you want to get into a pissing match, please come with some actual information instead of lame vague statements. Otherwise, GTFO. Newbie.
what are you, retarded? It's called a "generalization," look it up.
In general, a large company is going to have better qualty control than a guy making stuff in his garage. Of coure that isn't always the case - there are some excellent small manufacturers out there - but when it comes to small tolerances, computer-designed and milled parts are almost always better than something done "by hand." Take Matt's z32 brackets for example....a great product, but the fit tolerances are always a bit off....Big companies have more money and more resources for testing at their disposal than the amateur fabricator.
Let me guess, you're "the guy on the NY maximas forum".....
If you want to get into a pissing match, please come with some actual information instead of lame vague statements. Otherwise, GTFO. Newbie.
10-11-2007, 03:05 PM
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see i've been thinking about uprgrading my brakes for a while... but well i also want to be able to use my 18" rims w/ 35 offset and be able to use the stockies for the winter.. wat do u think since u've been working on different setups...
10-11-2007, 05:36 PM
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my winter wheels are the G35 coupe 17s (33mm offset) with Blizzaks on them, so I don't have any clearance problems. These wheels can be found cheap (<$500 for a set)
my stock wheels were sold long ago.....
10-12-2007, 05:45 AM
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but seriuosly...front brakes: 02 max - 2.252" bore piston, 07 max - 2.25", both use 15/16" master cyl. data straight from FSM. Mind sharing how you found out that 6th gen has "much larger pistons than the 5th gen"?
10-12-2007, 05:54 AM
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matter of opinion...
In general, a large company is going to have better qualty control than a guy making stuff in his garage. Of coure that isn't always the case - there are some excellent small manufacturers out there - but when it comes to small tolerances, computer-designed and milled parts are almost always better than something done "by hand." Take Matt's z32 brackets for example....a great product, but the fit tolerances are always a bit off....Big companies have more money and more resources for testing at their disposal than the amateur fabricator.
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In general, a large company is going to have better qualty control than a guy making stuff in his garage. Of coure that isn't always the case - there are some excellent small manufacturers out there - but when it comes to small tolerances, computer-designed and milled parts are almost always better than something done "by hand." Take Matt's z32 brackets for example....a great product, but the fit tolerances are always a bit off....Big companies have more money and more resources for testing at their disposal than the amateur fabricator.
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10-12-2007, 08:08 AM
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I’m calling BS, the 6th gen calipers are physically MUCH bigger then the 5th gen ones.
10-12-2007, 12:04 PM
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I guess this is a dumb question but I will throw it out there anyway. What is the weight savings from the Z32 to the Wilwood? I am looking from a performance standpoint versus a "look".
I have the Z32's right now. PC'd. And while I dont drive any where near you do with your Max (I do that with the MR2), I am tired of shops "doinking" my calipers because the noob monkey cant get the rims off without banging the caliper.
I read the thread and I guess I missed what you are running on the back.
I have the Z32's right now. PC'd. And while I dont drive any where near you do with your Max (I do that with the MR2), I am tired of shops "doinking" my calipers because the noob monkey cant get the rims off without banging the caliper.
I read the thread and I guess I missed what you are running on the back.
10-12-2007, 04:46 PM
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Ok guys, I am on the NYC forum but I'm not "that guy" as you all refer to him. He is by no means is a bad guy. He is infact extremely knowledgeable. I have spoken to him over the phone, by PM and e-mail and have been impressed numerous times.
I also am using "that guy's" caliper mounting bracket for the Wilwood caliper and 12.6 rotor. I am nothing but pleased with the quality and craftsmanship he put into this. These are not "hand made" peices. These were made with a professional quality machine. He also did a crapload of research on calipers to choose the ones that match up with our MC. I'm extremely happy with the brakes. Just wanted to share my experience and opinion with you guys.
I also am using "that guy's" caliper mounting bracket for the Wilwood caliper and 12.6 rotor. I am nothing but pleased with the quality and craftsmanship he put into this. These are not "hand made" peices. These were made with a professional quality machine. He also did a crapload of research on calipers to choose the ones that match up with our MC. I'm extremely happy with the brakes. Just wanted to share my experience and opinion with you guys.
10-12-2007, 06:16 PM
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true....we need a measurement to confirm your numbers.
I guess this is a dumb question but I will throw it out there anyway. What is the weight savings from the Z32 to the Wilwood? I am looking from a performance standpoint versus a "look".
I have the Z32's right now. PC'd. And while I dont drive any where near you do with your Max (I do that with the MR2), I am tired of shops "doinking" my calipers because the noob monkey cant get the rims off without banging the caliper.
I read the thread and I guess I missed what you are running on the back.
I have the Z32's right now. PC'd. And while I dont drive any where near you do with your Max (I do that with the MR2), I am tired of shops "doinking" my calipers because the noob monkey cant get the rims off without banging the caliper.
I read the thread and I guess I missed what you are running on the back.
Ok guys, I am on the NYC forum but I'm not "that guy" as you all refer to him. He is by no means is a bad guy. He is infact extremely knowledgeable. I have spoken to him over the phone, by PM and e-mail and have been impressed numerous times.
I also am using "that guy's" caliper mounting bracket for the Wilwood caliper and 12.6 rotor. I am nothing but pleased with the quality and craftsmanship he put into this. These are not "hand made" peices. These were made with a professional quality machine. He also did a crapload of research on calipers to choose the ones that match up with our MC. I'm extremely happy with the brakes. Just wanted to share my experience and opinion with you guys.
I also am using "that guy's" caliper mounting bracket for the Wilwood caliper and 12.6 rotor. I am nothing but pleased with the quality and craftsmanship he put into this. These are not "hand made" peices. These were made with a professional quality machine. He also did a crapload of research on calipers to choose the ones that match up with our MC. I'm extremely happy with the brakes. Just wanted to share my experience and opinion with you guys.
And you could suggest he come visit here
By the way, I didn't mean to infer anything about him being knowledgeable or a "bad guy" or anything - but I'm sure you'll agree that there are alot of shady people making shady parts out there, and when it comes to someone we don't know making parts, it's all about reputation (Matt Blehm, for example)....we can't just assume that everyone knows what they're talking about or makes good parts until he comes in and shows us!
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10-12-2007, 06:38 PM
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there's nothing more "real" about this than the z32 setup
rotors: same
calipers: same basic bore, both 4-piston
brackets: both use em
ss custom lines: both have em
not much difference, just hoping for a better fitament. The z32 performance is excellent, no complaints there.
rotors: same
calipers: same basic bore, both 4-piston
brackets: both use em
ss custom lines: both have em
not much difference, just hoping for a better fitament. The z32 performance is excellent, no complaints there.
10-12-2007, 06:39 PM
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there's nothing more "real" about this than the z32 setup
rotors: same
calipers: same basic bore, both 4-piston
brackets: both use em
ss custom lines: both have em
not much difference, just hoping for a better fitament. The z32 performance is excellent, no complaints there.
rotors: same
calipers: same basic bore, both 4-piston
brackets: both use em
ss custom lines: both have em
not much difference, just hoping for a better fitament. The z32 performance is excellent, no complaints there.
10-12-2007, 08:38 PM
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Here aer a few snippets from other threads:
Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
Joe PM ill give you my phone number or i can call you..... I hope your not putting 1.38 calipers up front because i just sent mine back.... and I ended up getting the 1.75 front 4 pot calipers which are also going back.... (to much pedal travel) to get replaced with the 1.62 fronts.
As for the rear...... man with 1.38 pots up front my bias shifted to the rear and my car became the white knuckle ride of the century.
Brian at fastbrakes is taking care of everything, but its very very dangerous to put the 1.38 calipers up front.
As for the rear...... man with 1.38 pots up front my bias shifted to the rear and my car became the white knuckle ride of the century.
Brian at fastbrakes is taking care of everything, but its very very dangerous to put the 1.38 calipers up front.
Originally Posted by JoesRedMax
I talked to the Rotora tech today about the issue and he said that the 1.38" would work but that if I could then I should swap them for the 1.62"
Anyhow, I realize that the overall piston areas for the 1.38 numerically matches up well with the stock piston area, but sometimes there are other factors involved too - such as the design of the caliper, tightness of the cylinder, etc....that could require a different bore size.
I don't think either one is "wrong" but fastbrakes has changed their kit to have teh 1.62 rather than the 1.38, so there must be some reason for it
10-12-2007, 10:48 PM
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Thanks for coming in and clarifying - but the issue in question was "what size pistons do the wilwoods in his kit have?" Could you find out for us? Also, we're assuming you are talking about the forged superlites....or are you using a different wilwood (dynalite?)
And you could suggest he come visit here
By the way, I didn't mean to infer anything about him being knowledgeable or a "bad guy" or anything - but I'm sure you'll agree that there are alot of shady people making shady parts out there, and when it comes to someone we don't know making parts, it's all about reputation (Matt Blehm, for example)....we can't just assume that everyone knows what they're talking about or makes good parts until he comes in and shows us!
And you could suggest he come visit here
By the way, I didn't mean to infer anything about him being knowledgeable or a "bad guy" or anything - but I'm sure you'll agree that there are alot of shady people making shady parts out there, and when it comes to someone we don't know making parts, it's all about reputation (Matt Blehm, for example)....we can't just assume that everyone knows what they're talking about or makes good parts until he comes in and shows us!
I will definitely pass on the invitation to this thread to him.
I didn't say that you were calling him a bad guy or anything of that sort. From reading the thread, I got the jist that most people here thought that he was shady. I definitely agree that there are people out there that are just out to make money and don't care about the quality of there parts. I have seen several different parts that he has designed and I am blown away by the quality of them all. I see where you're coming from, I will try to get him in here.
Here are a few pics of the caliper and mounting bracket he made:
10-13-2007, 07:05 PM
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it's interesting that his have a "step" in them - while the fastbrakes is a flat piece of milled aluminum with no step. I wonder why the difference - if his kit is thinner it seems it might push the caliper outward some, or it could be that his are thicker on the spindle side.
Interesting...
Interesting...
10-13-2007, 08:03 PM
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yes, the swept area should be about 2", IIRC. They're a bit taller than the z32 pads, but smaller in height than the A34 setup.
Pad area doesn't mean as much as the even application of the pads that the 4-piston setup will accomplish.
I'm installing tomorrow morning if all goes as planned.
10-15-2007, 04:28 PM
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10-15-2007, 05:02 PM
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i.e. if it's made for the 5th gen maxima, it will fit perfectly on the 6th gen and alti as well....
Your guy is missing out on a bigger market if he doesn't know this
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