i cant find anything everything has a dead link , i want to find out if its possible when i turn my high beams on and all the lights remain on (fogs , low and high beams)

 

are you saying that when you activate your highs, the other lights dont stay on??

 

correct

 

of course they dont...the federal law says that when the high beams are on, the low and fogs turn of. cars are wired to follow the law.

 

well when ur in the middle of nowhere its helpful its not like im going to drive around town like that. just very rural Oklahoma roads

 

its definitely possible to wire them to stay on.

I think you might need some extra relays, wires, and taps.

The wire diagram is in the FSM.

 

i know about those roads... i also know you will be just fine with your highs

 

sooner, I know man, I hear what you are saying, and I know that cars are wired to hve the fogs+ (whatever secondary lighting you have) to turn off when you put your highbeams on.

But.... I live in upstate NY, not NYC, and we (believe it or not) do have some country-*** roads out here even near Albany. For a while, I wished the same thing, and then I ried something........

To the OP:

I a;ways cruise on the back way to my house (the way I always take from work) and it is a hick-*** road, next to a river, that has a lot of coons, deer, and rabbit's all over the place. Though I found that when I turned my fogs off (when it is not raining, or anything but clear outside) #1. It's a lot easier on the old peepers, and #2, When I turn the high's on, I doubt you would really notice the fogs (or whatever) anyway.

Even when you are driving with your HID's and fogs, switch your fogs off (when it's nice and clear outside) amd see if it really makes a difference. I find that it's much less stressful on the eye's with only the HID's. Do you really think that by having those two extra lights, they will help so much as to warrant a retrofit of your already perfectly working headlight system???

 

we all know that fogs dont do anything on our cars...no real usable light output.
we have HIDs..why do we need more light

 

I slightly agree and disagree with you here sooner....I can definitely tell a difference when my fogs are on. There is definitely more light out of the sides which is where I think they need it to see animals. I live in the same type of area and I think the amount that the fog lights put out does not warrant having them on with the high's. I do agree with you and personally think this is a ghay idea.

 

i dont

 

:stfu:

ummmmmmmm low beams stay on with the high beams on 2k2 & 2k3's along with almost everyother car on the road.

 

Straight answer time:

Setup a relay harness for your fogs, then also tap the signal wire to your highbeam positive as well as factory fog positive. Then your fogs will run completely off the relay, voiding the factory wiring (good time for HID fogs too!), and will stay on because it is triggered to turn/stay on when you flash/turn on your highbeams.

I have a diagram and DIY steps for the relay in the I35 section.

 

or you could do it the easy way... http://www.cardomain.com/ride/571536/2

 

That's easy? Wiring a relay won't involve taking the steering column cover off or cutting a wire there. A relay is all external, so can be easily removed and returned to stock. Also will prevent HID fogs from ever frying the factory wires or blowing a fuse.

 

Why would you need to add a relay? This wouldn't bypass the factory relay would it?

 

Come on man, I live in Moore and been to plenty of rural Oklahoma roads at night and I see just fine.

The lows stay on when high beams are selected. They share the same bulb, just another filiment.

Fogs are the only ones that turn off with the highs, and like Sooner said, they do not offer any more light so it's pointless.

 

im not sure if this is relevant but what i would wanna do is somehow get a different size bulb in the high beam assembly that stays on while low beams are on....and then if you high beam it'll still be able to high beam...

somethin lik the g35's 9003/HBS....which is the fog/highbeam...it'll take some serious wiring skills to pull this off

idk if neone has ever tried this...

but it'd be a pretty sick mod...like Orgullo's blue LEDs
...but with some yellow hidz or sumthin

 

are you confused & lost?

 

Yes removing 4 screws and cutting 1 wire is easy.

 

is everyone giving u the wrong answers? i've read a few responses and no one answered. and there are plenty of vehicles equipped with separate low beams and high beams and both stay on, so don't listen to sooner. lol
if i didn't know better, i'd say 2k2 HIDs stay on when high beam is lit, right?
ok......

the only thing you have to do is cut your oem harness and ground the low beam separately. you want this because you have projector headlamps and not stock h4 headlamps. since our cars are ground switched, grounding it will give it ground (obviously) permanently. so when you turn your power on, it'll always be on; when you flick the high beam on, both will be on!

 

ok, i read turtle's response and it's not true.. turn on your high beams and look.. only one filament is lit
they don't light up dual filament bulbs together

 

haha.. no electrical people up in here to help
only 2 people attempted to help.. how sad
if you do what i told you, it'll let you keep your fogs on as well because your fog only turns on when low beams are on. unless you did fog light rewire

 

but you're not going to attempt a retro on them egay headlights? they give no light at all! i bought a set but haven't started yet, and they are definitely not going on the car like that

 

goddamnit no1 responded me

 

So One person is talking about an '00-'01 model were they share the same bulb for high and low beams, when the high beam switch is on the low beam goes off. The '02'-'03setup when you have the high beam on the low beam stays on as well the only thing that goes off is the fogs. I would understand the person with the '00-'01 to want more light and the '02'03 not needing the extra light because we dont loose any light but the fogs which dont do much anyway

 

the easiest way would be to take the fogs off the existing system Rewire them using a switch from a parts store.

 

I don't think so....the power flowing through the light stalk on the wheel is only to power up the relays that supply power to the fogs. Using the splice mod shouldn't be any less safe than stock as there is no major current going through the steering colum...adding the extra relays would be redundant.

 

I don't know why you would need to add a relay. I think you originally replied to the wrong post because the link I provided didn't involve adding a relay.

 

If you pull in the thumb switch towards you just a bit both the high and low beams will be on.

 

thats wat i do haha but its hard to balance and drive like that

 

did you do it yet?
post 21..
ground your low beam separately from OEM switch

 

This has been done. Igor911 did the writeup.

 

If you run the highs and lows together for too long they will eventually melt the headlight housing.

 

Did he really?

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...3&postcount=14

 

Oops, must have missed that post.

 

thats cool, all that means is another post for me

 

Stardust I do like your mod, I do not see what is so difficult.

 

I did this some time ago, very simple to do and undo. Very helpful on the backroads. State inspectors have never noticed fogs aren't cutting out with high beams. Sorry, didn't mean to help resurrect such an old thread.

 

I'm fairly sure that the law states that you can only have 4 lights on at any time. When the high beams go on, the low beams stay on and the fogs turn off.