How to install a UDP on a 5th gen?
10-27-2001, 10:15 PM
#1
How to install a UDP on a 5th gen?
Guess what 'ol Dixit here finally got a freagin UDP. I bought it off a fellow 4th gen Owner, I know it will fit since they both got the same part#s on UR's website.
Now I just want to know if anyone got 5th gen specific install writeup on this? I found a 4th gen one HERE
I also wanted to know if I needed to get this "SEAL" they were talking about. And do I REALLY need the Gates belts? Cause this guy who I bought it from did it with his stock belts. If I do, what the Part #s? They the same for the 4th gen? If so I got the part #s for the 4th gen Gates belts.
Man Am I excited,
PS, UMD_MaxSE should we do this one too along with the springs?
Dixit
Now I just want to know if anyone got 5th gen specific install writeup on this? I found a 4th gen one HERE
I also wanted to know if I needed to get this "SEAL" they were talking about. And do I REALLY need the Gates belts? Cause this guy who I bought it from did it with his stock belts. If I do, what the Part #s? They the same for the 4th gen? If so I got the part #s for the 4th gen Gates belts.
Man Am I excited,
PS, UMD_MaxSE should we do this one too along with the springs?
Dixit
10-27-2001, 10:36 PM
#2
yes you need the seal..and the procedure is IDENTICAL to the 4th gen...same engine....same process..just like an oil change 
You really should get the gates belts...I have them...and I don't know how I would have gotten it to work with the stock belts.
You really should get the gates belts...I have them...and I don't know how I would have gotten it to work with the stock belts.
10-28-2001, 12:12 AM
#4
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Do I still need the seal even if my car only got 4k miles on it? Some people where saying with that low mileage not needed
Do I still need the seal even if my car only got 4k miles on it? Some people where saying with that low mileage not needed
So in short, don't worry about it
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10-28-2001, 05:57 AM
#5
Yeah, we can try and do this install also 
I got mine put on at a shop since I didn't have the time to do it myself.... but I'd be happy to help you out with it. As for the seal, I didn't get a new one. You only have 4k miles on it, so you don't need a new one. You should go ahead and get a set of gates belts... the numbers should be listed on the instruction sheet.....
I got mine put on at a shop since I didn't have the time to do it myself.... but I'd be happy to help you out with it. As for the seal, I didn't get a new one. You only have 4k miles on it, so you don't need a new one. You should go ahead and get a set of gates belts... the numbers should be listed on the instruction sheet.....
10-28-2001, 06:06 AM
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It's kind of a PITA if you don't have the right tools. I went out and bought a gear puller, and my dad decided he needed a new impact wrench when we tried to do mine. As it happens, not knowing the belt tensioner was reversed caused us to break it and replacing that wasn't something I was going to try to do myself. The shop I went to charged me $106 for the tensioner replacement, UDP install and even an oil change, and the guy let me watch him do it. I would recommend getting the Gates belts since I don't see how the stock belts are going to fit on a smaller pulley.
10-28-2001, 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by nc00max
It's kind of a PITA if you don't have the right tools. I went out and bought a gear puller, and my dad decided he needed a new impact wrench when we tried to do mine. As it happens, not knowing the belt tensioner was reversed caused us to break it and replacing that wasn't something I was going to try to do myself. The shop I went to charged me $106 for the tensioner replacement, UDP install and even an oil change, and the guy let me watch him do it. I would recommend getting the Gates belts since I don't see how the stock belts are going to fit on a smaller pulley.
It's kind of a PITA if you don't have the right tools. I went out and bought a gear puller, and my dad decided he needed a new impact wrench when we tried to do mine. As it happens, not knowing the belt tensioner was reversed caused us to break it and replacing that wasn't something I was going to try to do myself. The shop I went to charged me $106 for the tensioner replacement, UDP install and even an oil change, and the guy let me watch him do it. I would recommend getting the Gates belts since I don't see how the stock belts are going to fit on a smaller pulley.
hey, do you want to come up to the area and help us out with these installs? I don't know when it's going to happen, but if you have the time, it would be cool
10-28-2001, 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
yeah, those tensioners are tricky...
hey, do you want to come up to the area and help us out with these installs? I don't know when it's going to happen, but if you have the time, it would be cool
yeah, those tensioners are tricky...
hey, do you want to come up to the area and help us out with these installs? I don't know when it's going to happen, but if you have the time, it would be cool
10-28-2001, 07:06 AM
#9
Originally posted by nc00max
I don't know how much help I'd be, but I would be more than happy to. My Navy schedule is a little more stringent now, so we're still looking at weekends only, and the ship gets underway from Nov. 5 till the 16th. Next Sunday would actually be the best day...Let me know when y'all feel like doing it though, and I'll see what I can do. The more notice, the better...
I don't know how much help I'd be, but I would be more than happy to. My Navy schedule is a little more stringent now, so we're still looking at weekends only, and the ship gets underway from Nov. 5 till the 16th. Next Sunday would actually be the best day...Let me know when y'all feel like doing it though, and I'll see what I can do. The more notice, the better...
10-28-2001, 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
sounds cool..... when things are finalized, we will let you know.... when it comes to installing the more the better
sounds cool..... when things are finalized, we will let you know.... when it comes to installing the more the better
10-28-2001, 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by nc00max
It's kind of a PITA if you don't have the right tools. I went out and bought a gear puller, and my dad decided he needed a new impact wrench when we tried to do mine. As it happens, not knowing the belt tensioner was reversed caused us to break it and replacing that wasn't something I was going to try to do myself. The shop I went to charged me $106 for the tensioner replacement, UDP install and even an oil change, and the guy let me watch him do it. I would recommend getting the Gates belts since I don't see how the stock belts are going to fit on a smaller pulley.
It's kind of a PITA if you don't have the right tools. I went out and bought a gear puller, and my dad decided he needed a new impact wrench when we tried to do mine. As it happens, not knowing the belt tensioner was reversed caused us to break it and replacing that wasn't something I was going to try to do myself. The shop I went to charged me $106 for the tensioner replacement, UDP install and even an oil change, and the guy let me watch him do it. I would recommend getting the Gates belts since I don't see how the stock belts are going to fit on a smaller pulley.
Good luck guys
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10-28-2001, 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by emax95
The belt tensioner is actually really easy to replace. All there is- is 2 12mm bolts. Also, there is no need for a gear puller, my pulley came off my 95 with 0 effort.
Good luck guys .
The belt tensioner is actually really easy to replace. All there is- is 2 12mm bolts. Also, there is no need for a gear puller, my pulley came off my 95 with 0 effort.
Good luck guys
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10-28-2001, 11:08 AM
#13
Originally posted by nc00max
We didn't have the gear puller at first, but their was no way in hell that sucker was coming off without one. I think I still have the scars...you're right about the tensioner though, but for whatever reason it didn't look like something I wanted to try after the UDP fiasco. But it was pretty easy to take off for the mechanic once he had it on the lift.
We didn't have the gear puller at first, but their was no way in hell that sucker was coming off without one. I think I still have the scars...you're right about the tensioner though, but for whatever reason it didn't look like something I wanted to try after the UDP fiasco. But it was pretty easy to take off for the mechanic once he had it on the lift.
10-28-2001, 11:29 AM
#14
can you break it down for a newbie: the UDP give you more HP, right? And you need to replace your belts. Is there anything else that needs to be replaced? How much are the belts/pulley? WHat gain in HP you get?
10-28-2001, 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
can you break it down for a newbie: the UDP give you more HP, right? And you need to replace your belts. Is there anything else that needs to be replaced? How much are the belts/pulley? WHat gain in HP you get?
can you break it down for a newbie: the UDP give you more HP, right? And you need to replace your belts. Is there anything else that needs to be replaced? How much are the belts/pulley? WHat gain in HP you get?
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