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Old 06-18-2008, 08:42 AM
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Power Difference. 02 Max vs 05 Alty SE-R

Hey guys,

In my quest to find a motor I've found a 14k '05 Alty SE-R motor for $700. It was wrecked on the front end and broke a valve cover and that's it.

What are the power differences between my 02 max 3.5, and the 05 SE-R 3.5?
I know that my max is rated at 255hp, and the Se-r is rated at 250hp. My question is this, are the cams different? Rods/pistons? Am I going to notice a loss in power? Anything I need to be worried about?

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might want to post in the all motor section since those guys know the VQ inside out. Im interested in the answer though
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Will do.
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Unless the cam specs and ECU programming are different, I'd guess there is little to no noticable difference. Sometimes the exhaust system makes the difference between models and sometimes they just rate the engines differently so the more expensive car has more advertised horsepower.
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To be honest I believe the difference is in the ECU programming and they were rated @ 260 Hp! I got smoked twice by one @ one of our local dragstrips! I was really green at Drag racing with the christmas tree starting lights. My RT was .527 and I believe he jumped me with a .050 RT! He beat my off the line and really never gained any more ground! 1st race he beat me by a full car and the second race 1 fender! both of us were autos and I definitely needed work on a better launch!
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1 car length does not equal "smoked".

260 HP and an extra gear in the automatic only beating a 255 HP Maxima by 1 car or less makes the 260 HP rating a little suspect unless the gear ratios in 1 through 3rd are exactly the same for both transmissions.
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Originally Posted by CMax03
To be honest I believe the difference is in the ECU programming and they were rated @ 260 Hp! I got smoked twice by one @ one of our local dragstrips! I was really green at Drag racing with the christmas tree starting lights. My RT was .527 and I believe he jumped me with a .050 RT! He beat my off the line and really never gained any more ground! 1st race he beat me by a full car and the second race 1 fender! both of us were autos and I definitely needed work on a better launch!
RT has nothing to do with actual ET, car lengths, yes, bu not ET's.
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unless the gear ratios in 1 through 3rd are exactly the same for both transmissions.
it's been modeled before, and they are not exactly the same.

And, if anyone cares to read the AM thread, they engines are identical to the A34.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX

And, if anyone cares to read the AM thread, they engines are identical to the A34.
Then 5 hp more and an extra gear should be more than 1 car length or less at the end of the quarter mile.
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Then 5 hp more and an extra gear should be more than 1 car length or less at the end of the quarter mile.
Huh?

Advertised HP numbers are for marketing and magazine racers.

Here is some info regarding the 4A and 5AT:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=131717
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=140957
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=301536
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=168625

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Who mentioned ET's? He got the hole shot and you can't make that up within a 1/4! I'm not stock and it was my second time running my car thru the 1/4 mile...I lost due to inexperience if we were running a 1/2 mile he was all mine... I had stock suspension at that time, so I can't turn up the Illuminas to prevent that undesired weight transfer off my drive wheels! Plus I never dog my car trying to come out the hole really hard and violent like a batt out of hell! I've ran 14.8's b4 and I'm sure with a little practice I can take this Auto to 14.0 as is! It's beat a 350Z and 05 Mustang Gt in a standing mile with ease by 100-125 yrds!

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You mentioned RT's which typically means you have ET's, but anyhoo, good for your car
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enjoy!!!
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Huh?

Advertised HP numbers are for marketing and magazine racers.
That is my point. If the hp number was accurate, the 5 hp extra plus the better gearing should make a larger difference in the quarter mile-gearing can really make a difference, that's why the hp rating seems suspect to me.

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Can we not make this a racing thread?
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I tried to turn it a little more technical in post #4 & 10.

Bottom line, nismology already answered your question in the AM forum thread.
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how about the 5.5 6spd vs the SER 6spd? From what I understand, they should be the same..but does anyone have any first hand experience?
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Originally Posted by 03blackmaxse
how about the 5.5 6spd vs the SER 6spd? From what I understand, they should be the same..but does anyone have any first hand experience?
I've seen dynos and timeslips and haven't seen anything that makes me believe one is faster than the other.
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Originally Posted by 03blackmaxse
how about the 5.5 6spd vs the SER 6spd? From what I understand, they should be the same..but does anyone have any first hand experience?
highway they are exactly the same first hand stock to stock
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I've seen dynos and timeslips and haven't seen anything that makes me believe one is faster than the other.
same engine, same tranny, i'm guessing similar weight = driver difference
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