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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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i got a lowering situation

i bought my car used
2002 se
it is obvious that is is lowered
the springs are black
sitting next to any other 2002-2003 se it looks (but i have never actually taken any measurements) about 1.5 to 2 inches lower
just got new 18's with 40 series tires
the gap on the front is huge
i want to lower it more
but what springs do i choose
i want to lower it another 1 to 1.5 inches but dont know what springs are on it in the first place to know which ones i should change then out with
hhhmmmmm...?...?
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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the gap on the front isn't bigger. Nissan designed the front wheel well to be larger than the rear so it's an optical illusion
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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first find out your true scenario before making any decisions,
dont forget you could get a bigger tire size to help out the huge gap instead of lowering.

my stock beefy 17" tires help a whole lot with the gap compared to my 18" low profile tires
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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what size tires are you running. ?/40/18
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Prophecy99
first find out your true scenario before making any decisions,
dont forget you could get a bigger tire size to help out the huge gap instead of lowering.

my stock beefy 17" tires help a whole lot with the gap compared to my 18" low profile tires
Larger wheels are compensated by tires with smaller sidewalls and vice versa. Going too big or too small may affect your speedo/odo.
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Your solution is coilover, and FYI the *best* size 18" tires for us is 245/40/18 (as in speedo accuracy).
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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i think you got eibach springs they realy suck your best bid is tiens im telling you
look at my 96 only on 17" soo imagen you whit your 18" any more Q pm


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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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wait, isn't this the fifth gen forum....
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by knight_yyz
the gap on the front isn't bigger. Nissan designed the front wheel well to be larger than the rear so it's an optical illusion
the gap is larger than i want it to be, thats for sure
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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what size tires are you running. ?/40/18
235/40
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Your solution is coilover, and FYI the *best* size 18" tires for us is 245/40/18 (as in speedo accuracy).
i am under the impress that most coilovers for the max's are noisy (make strange clanking noises), am i wrong, plus they cost alot more, and i would like to get illums when i change out the front springs
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 96max3189
i think you got eibach springs they realy suck your best bid is tiens im telling you
look at my 96 only on 17" soo imagen you whit your 18" any more Q pm
eibach's are black?
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 96max3189
i think you got eibach springs they realy suck your best bid is tiens im telling you
look at my 96 only on 17" soo imagen you whit your 18" any more Q pm

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/fc17he.jpg[/IMG
Eibachs suck? Please provide us some details.

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eibach's are black?
Yes, and they should also say Eibach on them. The newer Progress springs are black too, but I don't know if they are labeled.

Eibach drop is 1.3" F and 1.0" R, while the Progress drop is 1.7" front and 1.5" rear. You could try measuring to see what your drop is like and use Housecor's site for reference.

http://www.shiftice.com/spring_strut_decision.html
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by spencer.justin
i am under the impress that most coilovers for the max's are noisy (make strange clanking noises), am i wrong, plus they cost alot more, and i would like to get illums when i change out the front springs
Yes and no. Coilovers are expensive, but -I- think they are worth it. Yes coilovers are "noisy" only if you get the cheap quality stuff. My D2 was making popping and clicking noise EVERY single time I turn my steering wheel. I thought it was because of the pillowball mount, but turned out to be my cheap rubber coil insultator got chewed up, so the coil was rubbing against the strut mount. I replaced it with a plastic ring and it made zero noise so far (knock on wood..). I would personally recommend you to stay away from D2 because of its poor "adjustable" dampening.
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 96max3189
i think you got eibach springs they realy suck your best bid is tiens im telling you

The dumbness of this statement is simply amazing. Eibachs are widely recognized as one of the best performing springs for the Maxima. They have the correct rate and the correct ride qualities. More people here are on Eibachs than any other spring. Eibach is widely recognized as the leader worldwide in motorsports springs, and they make most of the springs for most coilovers that you can buy, as well...

you really don't know what you are talking about, as you have a 4th gen which uses DIFFERENT eibach springs than the 5th gen, with different rates and a lower drop.

And to suggest Teins
H-techs....too low a spring rate and bottom out
S-techs....simply one of the worst-performing springs available our cars.

Both are "looks" springs for people who just want to look pretty and don't care about performance at all.

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spencer.justin
i am under the impress that most coilovers for the max's are noisy (make strange clanking noises), am i wrong, plus they cost alot more, and i would like to get illums when i change out the front springs
If you're going to slam your car 3" low, no matter what you use the ride will suck, you will have noise, and you will blow your struts. Even illuminas are not suggested for a drop more than about 1.5" or so...

Sounds like you don't care about anything except being slammed and having even wheel gap. If that's the case, just cut a coil off your springs and go bouncing down the road with all the other
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by spencer.justin
just got new 18's with 40 series tires
what is the tire WIDTH? Because "40 series" just means the sidewall is 40% of the width. So if your tires are 225/40s, they will be shorter than a 245/40....
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Black springs? Eibach perhaps, in which case, keep them.

H&R is dark blue but they don't have that low of a drop.

The new progress springs are charcoal/silver, no?

Maybe you have cut OEM springs, in which case, ANYTHING you pick would be better.
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Here you go Irish... lol

Originally Posted by spencer.justin
235/40

Originally Posted by spencer.justin
i am under the impress that most coilovers for the max's are noisy (make strange clanking noises), am i wrong, plus they cost alot more, and i would like to get illums when i change out the front springs
Most coilovers? Perhaps the cheap ones as previously stated. They definitely cost more but that's because they are better. You can adjust your height w/ coilovers as well.
I've got the TEIN SS coilovers and they are great. I'd recommend them if you care about the ride and handling; that is if you have the extra cash to spend on them....
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
If you're going to slam your car 3" low, no matter what you use the ride will suck, you will have noise, and you will blow your struts. Even illuminas are not suggested for a drop more than about 1.5" or so...

Sounds like you don't care about anything except being slammed and having even wheel gap. If that's the case, just cut a coil off your springs and go bouncing down the road with all the other

i have no idea where you got the idea that you know what i care about, i do care about ride and performace i just dont want 3 inches of wheel gap on the front on my car, 1.5 i can deal with, but not 3, thanks for your imput
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
what is the tire WIDTH? Because "40 series" just means the sidewall is 40% of the width. So if your tires are 225/40s, they will be shorter than a 245/40....
235 is the max i can put on these rims i think
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Here you go Irish... lol






Most coilovers? Perhaps the cheap ones as previously stated. They definitely cost more but that's because they are better. You can adjust your height w/ coilovers as well.
I've got the TEIN SS coilovers and they are great. I'd recommend them if you care about the ride and handling; that is if you have the extra cash to spend on them....
ill have to check those out (reviews), sounds like my best option at this point
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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Just saw this thread... to be totally honest, I would either heat the springs to temp and make them smaller or cut them...
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Weeble1
Just saw this thread... to be totally honest, I would either heat the springs to temp and make them smaller or cut them...
Listen to him, he's got the quietest suspension evar
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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Listen to him, he's got the quietest suspension evar
hahaha, shut up. I didn't put them on!
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yea I have tein SS coilovers. the ride is honestly SO comfy and the handling is so tight. By far the best mod I have on the car
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pmohr
Listen to him, he's got the quietest suspension evar
this sounds like crazy talk, wouldnt that really screw up the handling if i dont heat them both perfectly the same?
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by spencer.justin
this sounds like crazy talk, wouldnt that really screw up the handling if i dont heat them both perfectly the same?
If you seriously consider cutting coils or heating the springs, then you're just an idiot, and it doesn't matter what we recommend.
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Originally Posted by pmohr
If you seriously consider cutting coils or heating the springs, then you're just an idiot, and it doesn't matter what we recommend.
well that one not be the first person that has come up with a dumb idea on this board, like the one guy that was creating an exhaust leak on as a mod, so i do not try not to judge how stupid or not people on this board are
thanks for your imput
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man I said that as a complete joke. Paul knows this which is why he said what he said. PLEASE don't try that...
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Originally Posted by spencer.justin
i bought my car used
2002 se
it is obvious that is is lowered
the springs are black
sitting next to any other 2002-2003 se it looks (but i have never actually taken any measurements) about 1.5 to 2 inches lower
just got new 18's with 40 series tires
the gap on the front is huge
i want to lower it more
but what springs do i choose
i want to lower it another 1 to 1.5 inches but dont know what springs are on it in the first place to know which ones i should change then out with
hhhmmmmm...?...?
hhhmmmmm..?...?

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Originally Posted by 96max3189
i think you got eibach springs they realy suck your best bid is tiens im telling you
look at my 96 only on 17" soo imagen you whit your 18" any more Q pm

hhhmmmmm..?...?

http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/start.exe/eibach/index.html
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