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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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00-01 getting a 3.5l?

Is it worth it to do a 3.5l swap on a 00-01? or would it just be better to find a 02-03?

The reason I ask is because I am finding it really hard to find 02-03's in my price range that are 6spds.

so is this swap worth it?
Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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You can get up to 255 with bolt ons without the hassle of a swap
Old Feb 24, 2009 | 12:20 AM
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For the price your gunna pay for all the parts to do a 3.5 swap, you could just get a supercharger. The 3.0L is a great motor, dont be so hasty to get rid of it. My 3.0L puts down vary good power (more then a 3.5) and I would bet money I have less into it then a 3.5 swap.
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Originally Posted by Bjs470
You can get up to 255 with bolt ons without the hassle of a swap


With the right bolt-ons and work you can make some decent power and just FI it when you want more

but a hybrid swap runs about $1k
a full on swap it alot of time and money around $2.5k - $5k depends on what you do with the motor while your putting it in.

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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 04:16 AM
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im getting the swap as we speak.

Im getting the swap because I blew the 3.0. if not then I would be looking for a 5.5 gen.
Old Feb 24, 2009 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Revs2Hard
For the price your gunna pay for all the parts to do a 3.5 swap, you could just get a supercharger. The 3.0L is a great motor, dont be so hasty to get rid of it. My 3.0L puts down vary good power (more then a 3.5) and I would bet money I have less into it then a 3.5 swap.
Except you needed nitrous to make more power...

3.5 power potential will always be more. With equivalent mods that you have will still be quite a bit of difference. S/C'ing is an option, but that vs. a 3.5 with I/H/E, the S/C'er would only be marginally faster on the track...but would definately be fast on the highway.

OR you can just buy a 5.5 gen, spend that same $2000 grand that you would use for a basic s/c kit, or 3.5l swap, and still be a pretty quick car.

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Old Feb 24, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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i would say if ur cars got low miles then throw some bolt ons on it like mentioned above intake header exhaust and i would say chip the beast!!!
Old Feb 24, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by maximase86
Except you needed nitrous to make more power...

3.5 power potential will always be more. With equivalent mods that you have will still be quite a bit of difference. S/C'ing is an option, but that vs. a 3.5 with I/H/E, the S/C'er would only be marginally faster on the track...but would definately be fast on the highway.

OR you can just buy a 5.5 gen, spend that same $2000 grand that you would use for a basic s/c kit, or 3.5l swap, and still be a pretty quick car.

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im with you on this one. plus im an N/A guy. looks like the terrible search continues
Old Feb 24, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Well look at it this way. I rather it take a longer time to find the right car, then to hurry myself into a car that might not fit the budget or what I want. In the long run it would you'll be better off, no pun intended.

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i would say if ur cars got low miles then throw some bolt ons on it like mentioned above intake header exhaust and i would say chip the beast!!!
Invalid advice, "chip" mod not found.
Old Feb 24, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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i think you should do the swap.. with bolt ons and a tune you can get 250-260 to the wheels.. you're not gonna see that in a 3.0 without FI.. just be sure to keep a quart of oil in the trunk! lol

are you auto or manual?
Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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i think you should do the swap.. with bolt ons and a tune you can get 250-260 to the wheels.. you're not gonna see that in a 3.0 without FI.. just be sure to keep a quart of oil in the trunk! lol

are you auto or manual?
well that was my next question. you see I dont have a 5th gen and was looking at my options. If I were to get a 5.5th gen would it be worth it to do a 6spd swap? How much would it cost....ect...

you see I am in the market for a 5.5gen with a 6spd. so what ever combination works for a good deal.

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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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the power potential might be more, but IMO, i dont want to spend $1000+ for problems. to get a 3.5 right where its as reliable as the 3.0, you have tear it down and rebuild it which will cost waaay more in the long run, not to mention if you paying someone to do the labor. might as well get the 5.5 gen instead of swapping in the 3.5 in a 5th gen. i love the sound and power of the 3.5, just not in my car, ill stick with the good ole trusty VQ30DE-k, and boost it. which is my plan BTW

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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hot_wax_tree
well that was my next question. you see I dont have a 5th gen and was looking at my options. If I were to get a 5.5th gen would it be worth it to do a 6spd swap? cause I am finding it very hard to find a 5.5 manual. How much would it cost....ect...

you see I am in the market for a 5.5gen with a 6spd. so what ever combination works for a good deal.
NEW QUESTION!!!
Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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Invalid advice, "chip" mod not found.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Force Induction would be cheaper IMO as well! Without any internal mods you should be able to put down more power without any reliabilty issues @ a relative low boost 5-8 psi!
Old Feb 26, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hot_wax_tree
well that was my next question. you see I dont have a 5th gen and was looking at my options. If I were to get a 5.5th gen would it be worth it to do a 6spd swap? How much would it cost....ect...

you see I am in the market for a 5.5gen with a 6spd. so what ever combination works for a good deal.
well, if you dont have a 5th or 5.5 gen yet, then just go with the 5.5 gen.. 6 speed or automatic is your choice depending on what you're comfortable with.. obviously the 6 speed is gonna be faster, but if you're considering FI, then just get a someone to make a custom FI kit for your car to make it even faster.. the only real problems they have is the oil burning and 3rd gear grind (which actually can be annoying.. especially when running the 1/4 mile)
Old Feb 26, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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whats your price range?

Originally Posted by hot_wax_tree
The reason I ask is because I am finding it really hard to find 02-03's in my price range that are 6spds.

so is this swap worth it?
Old Feb 26, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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.. the only real problems they have is the oil burning and 3rd gear grind (which actually can be annoying.. especially when running the 1/4 mile)
. It might be a good idea to have a mechanic take the intake manifold out and check the rear valve cover and the #5 coil(before you buy the car). If you get the 5.5 gen I bet there will be an oil leak there.(replace it with an 04 rear valve cover) Not a big deal but make them fix it or take $1000 off the car.
Old Feb 26, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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. It might be a good idea to have a mechanic take the intake manifold out and check the rear valve cover and the #5 coil(before you buy the car). If you get the 5.5 gen I bet there will be an oil leak there.(replace it with an 04 rear valve cover) Not a big deal but make them fix it or take $1000 off the car.
Really? thats crazy glad you told me. Why not just new gasket?
Old Feb 26, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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the manual says you should replace the gasket whenever you take the manifold off. I did it when I did mine but i have heard its not always needed. If you show all this to the dealership before you pay, I would assume they would feel obligated to fix it. And if I'm wrong and theres no leak you can sleep better.
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Except you needed nitrous to make more power...

3.5 power potential will always be more. With equivalent mods that you have will still be quite a bit of difference. S/C'ing is an option, but that vs. a 3.5 with I/H/E, the S/C'er would only be marginally faster on the track...but would definately be fast on the highway.

OR you can just buy a 5.5 gen, spend that same $2000 grand that you would use for a basic s/c kit, or 3.5l swap, and still be a pretty quick car.

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7 bottles, 126k and alot of auto-x, im not burning oil ~vs~ 85k and stock 3.5's are. Thats all I have to say, it speeks for its self.

here is a great reason to buy the 3.0L
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nV9B62OT04
369.4 WHP im only 89 less then that with my junk motor thats in the car :-)

I really like the VQ30's and wouldnt own a VQ35 unless it was in the Nismo 350Z. Thats just my preference though. :-) GL with the hunting and I hope you get what you want.

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Revs2Hard
7 bottles, 126k and alot of auto-x, im not burning oil ~vs~ 85k and stock 3.5's are. Thats all I have to say, it speeks for its self.

here is a great reason to buy the 3.0L
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nV9B62OT04
369.4 WHP im only 89 less then that with my junk motor thats in the car :-)

I really like the VQ30's and wouldnt own a VQ35 unless it was in the Nismo 350Z. Thats just my preference though. :-) GL with the hunting and I hope you get what you want.
She looks and sounds great man but like I said earlyer im an NA guy and i like the 3.5. I already have plans for a car build with more power than your puttin down no worrys about that.
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ive spoken to nissan parts people, and techs. valve cover gasket and tube seals wont eliminate the problem, it might drop you from 2qts to 1qt between oil changes they have a TSB for it at nissan.

BTW Revs2hard, do you think 9psi will be ok on stock internals, some folx say dont go above 8

Hot Wax: when its all said and done, the choice is yours, if you're ok with the issues then do ya thing. i wanted the same swap, but when i heard about oil burning issues, i changed my mind, plus i'm down to one car again. i needed it fixed quick, but be fast and reliable, keyword being RELIABLE.

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honestly the very second i bought my 00 i thought of the swap but to deal with all the problems of the swap was just too much... the real downfall to the 00-01 maxima's are the lack of mods that are made for em... no ECU upgrade, no spacers thats about a 20+WHP not there though you can basically get an E-manage ultimate to substitute for the ECU, im the N/A guy too and i do like the 5.5th gens also, but if you are more into performance then go the 5.5th route but if you car more about reliability then 5th gen all the way... im kinda stuck in the same decision also... do i wanna do a 5th gen again after mines got into a wreck or do i wanna just go for the speed???
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but be fast and reliable, keyword being RELIABLE.
Thats why you have a Maxima.....
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Old Mar 2, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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swap not worth it, either keep the 3.0 or buy a 5.5 gen one.
Old Mar 2, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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I think overall the 3.5 swap isn't worth it.

If you're really serious about it I would say either buy a salvage title and rebuild it for less or try to buy one from an org member
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