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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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nwp spacer ?

ive read a couple threads saying that these spacers add a substancial amount of power. i am however skeptical of this. i don't understand the theory behind them and how a 1/4 spacer could make a noticable difference. is it just the decrease in intake temps? could someone try to explain what they actually do since the website has no information about them. that i also found a little odd.
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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Because if you search on this forum...you would get the total answer WITH DYNO GRAPHS.

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Like seriously....this was on the 2nd page of the 5th gen section

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...ent-vq35s.html
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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Every 10 degree drop in intake temperature improves power by about 1%. 40 degree drop equates to a 4% increase in power, which on a 255 hp car is a touch over 10 hp. Not to mention the thickness of the intake spacers lengthen the runners which increase intake velocity which improves torque and throttle response.
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Every 10 degree drop in intake temperature improves power by about 1%. 40 degree drop equates to a 4% increase in power, which on a 255 hp car is a touch over 10 hp. Not to mention the thickness of the intake spacers lengthen the runners which increase intake velocity which improves torque and throttle response.
take em to school.......... so really, when do they close and delete this thread?
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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i have an 01 with 3.0 and doesn't have the cast intake manifold. thats why im asking.
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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well there is also info on the DE-Ks now also... there might not be as much gain as the VQ35 because of the DE-K's plastic type intake manifold but i think there are spacers now made for it and it proved gains on the dyno... someone correct me if im wrong
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
well there is also info on the DE-Ks now also... there might not be as much gain as the VQ35 because of the DE-K's plastic type intake manifold but i think there are spacers now made for it and it proved gains on the dyno... someone correct me if im wrong
yeah they only showed about 8hp increase tho.

The real pay off is the difference in deeper sound.
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Every 10 degree drop in intake temperature improves power by about 1%. 40 degree drop equates to a 4% increase in power, which on a 255 hp car is a touch over 10 hp. Not to mention the thickness of the intake spacers lengthen the runners which increase intake velocity which improves torque and throttle response.
Spot on and well explained, Scott. However, have you actually installed yours yet?

The physics are sound, and Aaron has an awesome rep here... it seems a slam dunk mod. What I'd like to read is a collection of testimonials. There are some in that 700+ thread, but it mostly chronicles the development. It would be nice to see some long-term assessments all in once place.

UPDATED:

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...p-spacers.html

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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DrunkieTheBear
yeah they only showed about 8hp increase tho.

The real pay off is the difference in deeper sound.
8whp is well IMO, thats almost the same a the VQ35
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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I am going to install a set when I swap to 00vi..... I want longer intake runners
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Spot on and well explained, Scott. However, have you actually installed yours yet?
Going to order and install them whenever I do the plugs. Still have some medical bills to pay off from my hernia surgery in December.

I've used carburator spacers when I had my Chevelle and they definitely made an improvement in the midrange and throttle response. Similar effect that the intake spacers give with the added benefit of heat reduction.
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Going to order and install them whenever I do the plugs. Still have some medical bills to pay off from my hernia surgery in December.
Wow... TMI. However, you have my sympathies on the discomfort and the bills.

I created another thread for you to post your impressions after installing the spacers:

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...p-spacers.html

That 1% gain for every 10 degree reduction in air temp... for background, where'd you get that from, Scott?
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Wow... TMI. However, you have my sympathies on the discomfort and the bills.

I created another thread for you to post your impressions after installing the spacers:

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...p-spacers.html

That 1% gain for every 10 degree reduction in air temp... for background, where'd you get that from, Scott?
Not specifically from this link because it is a pretty standard accepted fact in the automotive industry, but here you go:

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Par...ld-intake.html

It is generally accepted that for every 10°F temperature drop of intake air, an engine will gain 1% more power.
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Not specifically from this link because it is a pretty standard accepted fact in the automotive industry, but here you go:

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Par...ld-intake.html

It is generally accepted that for every 10°F temperature drop of intake air, an engine will gain 1% more power.
Interesting reading. Thanks. That math is appealing.

Outside this forum, it seems like the Ford Mustang is the big market for phenolic intake spacers.

Anyway, if you install those spacers before I do, I want to read about it here on the org somewhere. Good luck.
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