Damn, 2002 SE wheels/tires weigh 50lb's a piece!
12-03-2001, 09:30 PM
#42
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Originally posted by Mr. Green
Using you're own formula I beleive it should read
Air+tire+rim=22989.4 or 22.989 Kg/50.58lbs
He+tire+rim=22722.7 or 22.723 Kg/49.99lbs
H+tire+rim=22690.67 or 22.691 Kg/49.92lbs
This seems to be a weight loss that would be not worth the effort.
1/2 lbs at the wheels at best, remove your spare tire at the track and you would see greater performance gains.
My .02
Using you're own formula I beleive it should read
Air+tire+rim=22989.4 or 22.989 Kg/50.58lbs
He+tire+rim=22722.7 or 22.723 Kg/49.99lbs
H+tire+rim=22690.67 or 22.691 Kg/49.92lbs
This seems to be a weight loss that would be not worth the effort.
1/2 lbs at the wheels at best, remove your spare tire at the track and you would see greater performance gains.
My .02
12-03-2001, 11:51 PM
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Man that is outragous... even the most heavey Neepers in the last sport compact car wheel guide only weighed about 35 lbs. I can't complain to much. The 17" dealer accesory wheels for my car cost $3k. Although they are extremely light.
12-03-2001, 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by nin1ash@aol.com
Man that is outragous... even the most heavey Neepers in the last sport compact car wheel guide only weighed about 35 lbs. I can't complain to much. The 17" dealer accesory wheels for my car cost $3k. Although they are extremely light.
Man that is outragous... even the most heavey Neepers in the last sport compact car wheel guide only weighed about 35 lbs. I can't complain to much. The 17" dealer accesory wheels for my car cost $3k. Although they are extremely light.
12-04-2001, 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by emax95
The 50 lb weight represented the rims and tires. Tires are pretty heavy, probably a little over 20 lb's.
The 50 lb weight represented the rims and tires. Tires are pretty heavy, probably a little over 20 lb's.
Stereodude
12-04-2001, 11:37 AM
#47
Originally posted by Stereodude
So what's a good set of relatively inexpensive 17-18" rims and rubber weigh? Places like Tirerack don't tell you how much the rims or tires weigh.
Stereodude
So what's a good set of relatively inexpensive 17-18" rims and rubber weigh? Places like Tirerack don't tell you how much the rims or tires weigh.
Stereodude
12-04-2001, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by ehughes
What do a set of 17" or 18" Magnesium forged, or other lightweight, rims cost? I read about some rims in the 17 lb/ea. range. Any idea?
What do a set of 17" or 18" Magnesium forged, or other lightweight, rims cost? I read about some rims in the 17 lb/ea. range. Any idea?
Stereodude
12-04-2001, 04:59 PM
#50
Originally posted by Stereodude
I'm looking at SSR Competition 17x8 rims for my 2002 when I get it. They weigh 13.1lbs and cost $375 each at tirerack.com. I've posted a thread in the General forum looking for feedback on them. They are the lightest 17x8 rim that I could find. For the price, weight, and the positive things I've heard about them I don't think you can go wrong on them. I'm not sure what they're made out of to be honest.
Stereodude
I'm looking at SSR Competition 17x8 rims for my 2002 when I get it. They weigh 13.1lbs and cost $375 each at tirerack.com. I've posted a thread in the General forum looking for feedback on them. They are the lightest 17x8 rim that I could find. For the price, weight, and the positive things I've heard about them I don't think you can go wrong on them. I'm not sure what they're made out of to be honest.
Stereodude
SSR GT1 nd GT3 also look great on the Max.
12-04-2001, 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
no i have a VERY good memory. i get complimented on it all the time. i dont even write my orders down at friendly's, i'm a waiter to all those that didn't know. that's all i ever hear from people at work, OMG, your not writing any of this down, wow that's impressive. then i get locked in a conversation with them. i never even studied through high school, never.
no i have a VERY good memory. i get complimented on it all the time. i dont even write my orders down at friendly's, i'm a waiter to all those that didn't know. that's all i ever hear from people at work, OMG, your not writing any of this down, wow that's impressive. then i get locked in a conversation with them. i never even studied through high school, never.
Steve,
You're not too far, but your memory in this case, is not accurate. Gasses do not have the same density they have the same amount of molecules at the same temperature and pressure. There are 6.022 x 10 23 molecules of any IDEAL gas at sea level, and room temperature. That's what a Mole is. However, since Hydrogen has a molecular mass weight of around 2 (it exists as H2) and Helium has a molecular mass weight of 4, Helium is twice as heavy for the same volume. They are relatively light, however, in comparison to most gases.
12-04-2001, 07:10 PM
#52
Originally posted by ehughes
What do a set of 17" or 18" Magnesium forged, or other lightweight, rims cost? I read about some rims in the 17 lb/ea. range. Any idea?
What do a set of 17" or 18" Magnesium forged, or other lightweight, rims cost? I read about some rims in the 17 lb/ea. range. Any idea?
12-05-2001, 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by GuamMax
Steve,
You're not too far, but your memory in this case, is not accurate. Gasses do not have the same density they have the same amount of molecules at the same temperature and pressure. There are 6.022 x 10 23 molecules of any IDEAL gas at sea level, and room temperature. That's what a Mole is. However, since Hydrogen has a molecular mass weight of around 2 (it exists as H2) and Helium has a molecular mass weight of 4, Helium is twice as heavy for the same volume. They are relatively light, however, in comparison to most gases.
Steve,
You're not too far, but your memory in this case, is not accurate. Gasses do not have the same density they have the same amount of molecules at the same temperature and pressure. There are 6.022 x 10 23 molecules of any IDEAL gas at sea level, and room temperature. That's what a Mole is. However, since Hydrogen has a molecular mass weight of around 2 (it exists as H2) and Helium has a molecular mass weight of 4, Helium is twice as heavy for the same volume. They are relatively light, however, in comparison to most gases.
I don't remember anything.
12-05-2001, 08:55 AM
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I went to Tirerack.com and did their virtual view of the SSR Comps on my Sterling Mist color. Holy @!#$, they look incredible! My wife is not going to be happy about me dropping another $1,500 on the car 
.. Oh well, it won't be the last time ..
.. Oh well, it won't be the last time ..
12-05-2001, 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by ehughes
I went to Tirerack.com and did their virtual view of the SSR Comps on my Sterling Mist color. Holy @!#$, they look incredible! My wife is not going to be happy about me dropping another $1,500 on the car.. Oh well, it won't be the last time ..
I went to Tirerack.com and did their virtual view of the SSR Comps on my Sterling Mist color. Holy @!#$, they look incredible! My wife is not going to be happy about me dropping another $1,500 on the car
.. Oh well, it won't be the last time ..
Stereodude
12-05-2001, 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Stereodude
In that case, lose the wife and get the rims.
Stereodude
In that case, lose the wife and get the rims.
Stereodude
..Its worked for seven years
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