Center Caps for Winter Steelies
#1
Center Caps for Winter Steelies
I'll be putting my snows on the car in a few weeks. Each Fall I swap out the OEM 17" SE rims with summer tread, for 16" steel rims with snow tires... then back again in the Spring.
For the first few years, I was putting wheel covers on the steel rims. It looked so lame, that for the last couple of years I went bare. And this summer, I even repainted the rims clean and black.
My question: I'd like center caps (dust caps?), because the center nut looks so nasty. The opening is 65mm, or just a hair over 2.5".
Does anyone have any advice?
For the first few years, I was putting wheel covers on the steel rims. It looked so lame, that for the last couple of years I went bare. And this summer, I even repainted the rims clean and black.
My question: I'd like center caps (dust caps?), because the center nut looks so nasty. The opening is 65mm, or just a hair over 2.5".
Does anyone have any advice?
#5
That would work for the rear... don't know why I didn't think of that. But the front has the nut & pin, which as I said, is pretty nasty rusty. I'd prefer to put a black plastic cap over both.
We're 0 for 3, guys. Didn't realize this was a common issue. Love to hear from someone with a simple answer.
We're 0 for 3, guys. Didn't realize this was a common issue. Love to hear from someone with a simple answer.
#6
I swung by AutoZone this afternoon. Um, no. That was a bust.
And I just wrote to CenterCaps.com with this inquiry. I'll let you guys know if anything comes of that.
[updated]
From Centercaps.com: "Sorry only hubcaps will fit this Steel wheel."
And I just wrote to CenterCaps.com with this inquiry. I'll let you guys know if anything comes of that.
[updated]
From Centercaps.com: "Sorry only hubcaps will fit this Steel wheel."
Last edited by Rochester; 11-02-2009 at 07:47 AM.
#8
The more I look into this, the less confident I feel about finding something that fits the bill. However, these look promising, and at the right diameter give or take a fraction of an inch. Perhaps if the edge were cut/ground down to the flange?
#9
I popped off one of the rims this evening to take some measurements. Although those silver caps (in the previous post) seem perfect at 2.44" (which is 2 and 7/8"), that's the exact diameter of the lip on the hub. And there's like 1/2 mm gap, so there's no room for a cap even if it did fit.
The answer? Rustoleum, in black. To get the hub nuts off, you'd need a torch anyway, right?
Oh well, it was worth researching. Man, those grease caps sure did look like a solution!
The answer? Rustoleum, in black. To get the hub nuts off, you'd need a torch anyway, right?
Oh well, it was worth researching. Man, those grease caps sure did look like a solution!
#10
Been wondering myself ... good thread as there seems to be several looking for the same answer. How about this link Rochester http://www.championtrailers.com/dust_caps.html
or this one http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-3132-t51526.aspx
Found this comment on another site where a guy used "68 cent stainless steel cocktail cups and a little epoxy glue" or even JB weld ... never would have thought of using steel cocktail cups, I'll have to check them out for size fitment. If they fit one would just have to spray paint them black with high heat engine paint.
And another guy used stainless steel shrimp cups, creative little buggers
A little search on the kitchen supply companies and found these http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/...0/p377308.aspx ... I think these guys have the right idea looking at some of the stainless steel desert style cups that can be easily jb weld into place, just need to spent a bit more time in the housewares dept. instead of the automotive dept. ... what do you guys think of this idea?
or this one http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-3132-t51526.aspx
Found this comment on another site where a guy used "68 cent stainless steel cocktail cups and a little epoxy glue" or even JB weld ... never would have thought of using steel cocktail cups, I'll have to check them out for size fitment. If they fit one would just have to spray paint them black with high heat engine paint.
And another guy used stainless steel shrimp cups, creative little buggers
A little search on the kitchen supply companies and found these http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/...0/p377308.aspx ... I think these guys have the right idea looking at some of the stainless steel desert style cups that can be easily jb weld into place, just need to spent a bit more time in the housewares dept. instead of the automotive dept. ... what do you guys think of this idea?
Last edited by Ghost_54; 11-03-2009 at 09:10 PM.
#11
Been wondering myself ... good thread as there seems to be several looking for the same answer. How about this link Rochester http://www.championtrailers.com/dust_caps.html
or this one http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-3132-t51526.aspx
Found this comment on another site where a guy used "68 cent stainless steel cocktail cups and a little epoxy glue" or even JB weld ... never would have thought of using steel cocktail cups, I'll have to check them out for size fitment. If they fit one would just have to spray paint them black with high heat engine paint.
And another guy used stainless steel shrimp cups, creative little buggers
A little search on the kitchen supply companies and found these http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/...0/p377308.aspx ... I think these guys have the right idea looking at some of the stainless steel desert style cups that can be easily jb weld into place, just need to spent a bit more time in the housewares dept. instead of the automotive dept. ... what do you guys think of this idea?
or this one http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-3132-t51526.aspx
Found this comment on another site where a guy used "68 cent stainless steel cocktail cups and a little epoxy glue" or even JB weld ... never would have thought of using steel cocktail cups, I'll have to check them out for size fitment. If they fit one would just have to spray paint them black with high heat engine paint.
And another guy used stainless steel shrimp cups, creative little buggers
A little search on the kitchen supply companies and found these http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/...0/p377308.aspx ... I think these guys have the right idea looking at some of the stainless steel desert style cups that can be easily jb weld into place, just need to spent a bit more time in the housewares dept. instead of the automotive dept. ... what do you guys think of this idea?
So let me get this straight: you're proposing adhering the caps to the rims from the outside, rather than fitting them through the centers from the inside? That's pretty good out-of-the-box thinking, Ghost!
It's enough to make me want to buy a couple caps and experiment. If you look at the caps, I think they would have to get ground down to the flange area in order to use them.
I've no experience with this JB Weld stuff, but I've heard it mentioned here a few times... I think in relation to fixing a broken VIAS in the 5.0 gen.
#12
Well like you I googled searched grease caps - hub dust cover, and then expanded my search to other forums ... when I came across just how a couple of other guys resolved their search by using stainless steel desert dishes from the food service industry, which I thought was very cleaver of them. So on the weekend I will have a look through a few shops here to see what is available to fit this application, I'll let you how I make out.
Last edited by Ghost_54; 11-11-2009 at 05:25 PM.
#13
Well like you I googled searched grease caps - hub dust cover, and then expanded my search to other forums ... when I cam across just how a couple of other guys resolved their search by using stainless steel desert dishes from the food service industry, which I thought was very cleaver of them. So on the weekend I will have a look through a few shops here to see what is available to fit this application, I'll let you how I make out.
Ghost, I will happily defer to your ingenuity, and follow that lead if it works out.
The "cap" really wouldn't need much clearance, if any, right? I should have taken a pic last night to maintain perceptive. Darn.
I'm thinking the snows will be on the car in about 2 or 3 weeks.
#14
Well I will be very surprised if the snow holds off for two to three weeks, it's already very cold in the morning here around the zero and windy-rain off and on so you know the snow is right behind it ... where did the Indian summer go? I so look forward to it every year ... it was just to damn short
#15
Really? You think that soon? Used to be I would wait until the first week of December before putting on the snows, but you're right that it's getting pretty threatening lately. I've been watching the forecast every day now. I really hate this game, waiting for snowfall.
I got caught unprepared one year, and stranded at home for half a day waiting for thaw. You do NOT want to drive on snow with Eagle F1 tires!
I've been using Bridgestone Blizzaks for years now. Very happy. Just bought a set of 4 for my wife's Honda this week.
I got caught unprepared one year, and stranded at home for half a day waiting for thaw. You do NOT want to drive on snow with Eagle F1 tires!
I've been using Bridgestone Blizzaks for years now. Very happy. Just bought a set of 4 for my wife's Honda this week.
Last edited by Rochester; 11-04-2009 at 05:29 PM.
#16
That would work for the rear... don't know why I didn't think of that. But the front has the nut & pin, which as I said, is pretty nasty rusty. I'd prefer to put a black plastic cap over both.
We're 0 for 3, guys. Didn't realize this was a common issue. Love to hear from someone with a simple answer.
We're 0 for 3, guys. Didn't realize this was a common issue. Love to hear from someone with a simple answer.
http://www.componentforce.com/en/category/32/epdm-caps
#17
Here's yet another idea, and they say they can handle heat, which is good thing when it comes to covering the bolt threads.
http://www.componentforce.com/en/category/32/epdm-caps
http://www.componentforce.com/en/category/32/epdm-caps
Except, how would you mount it so it stays put? You would have to weld some kind of clip to the lip on the center opening.
#19
I was just fishing for ideas about a minor observation. Not looking to spend more than a few bucks to address it. In fact, maybe only the cost of a spraycan of Rustoleum.
I've been getting PM's from Ghost_54... it's his project now (Hi, Jim.) I'm just a bystander waiting to see what he figures out.
#23
well I was just giving you an idea on what to use to cover the Pin and Nut... it looks funny but if you thing about it... is either that or running your car w/o it. my .02
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#27
Well, it might have been a good idea, particularly for the front wheels. But it's freezing out, and will snow any day now... so I put the snows on last night. I think I'll re-visit this idea about caps next Spring, when there's more time and warmer temps.
As for the centers... for now, some black Rustoleum is about all I can come up with.
And now, 4 months of driving with snow tires. Yuck.
As for the centers... for now, some black Rustoleum is about all I can come up with.
And now, 4 months of driving with snow tires. Yuck.
#29
Bumping this old thread... mine anyway, so meh.
A few weeks ago we had a nice 60+ degree day, perfect for some final car-care, and for swapping the steelies on the car. As I was doing this, it occurred to me that I had a little POR-15 left over after repainting the steelies this Fall. They were getting rusty, and after some positive experience with Chassis Saver, I thought I'd give POR-15 a shot.
Anyway, to the topic... a little POR-15, and it looks great. Nice and black. No need for caps.
A few weeks ago we had a nice 60+ degree day, perfect for some final car-care, and for swapping the steelies on the car. As I was doing this, it occurred to me that I had a little POR-15 left over after repainting the steelies this Fall. They were getting rusty, and after some positive experience with Chassis Saver, I thought I'd give POR-15 a shot.
Anyway, to the topic... a little POR-15, and it looks great. Nice and black. No need for caps.
#32
#33
I have seen alot of aftermaket wheels with no center caps with those ugly things showing.. , looks so bad.
and its... slightly..ot from this.
How do the winter tires handle?
Are you much more confident with them in winter vs an all season tire?
Most importantly, how do the tires handle in dry winter weather, late spring etc.?
i go back to my oem wheels with all seasons for winter months, but need tires soon for those wheels and am debating just going for the snow tires since that's all I use these wheels for anyway.
u can pm if you dont want to clutter the thread.
and its... slightly..ot from this.
How do the winter tires handle?
Are you much more confident with them in winter vs an all season tire?
Most importantly, how do the tires handle in dry winter weather, late spring etc.?
i go back to my oem wheels with all seasons for winter months, but need tires soon for those wheels and am debating just going for the snow tires since that's all I use these wheels for anyway.
u can pm if you dont want to clutter the thread.
#34
I have seen alot of aftermaket wheels with no center caps with those ugly things showing.. , looks so bad.
and its... slightly..ot from this.
How do the winter tires handle?
Are you much more confident with them in winter vs an all season tire?
Most importantly, how do the tires handle in dry winter weather, late spring etc.?
i go back to my oem wheels with all seasons for winter months, but need tires soon for those wheels and am debating just going for the snow tires since that's all I use these wheels for anyway.
u can pm if you dont want to clutter the thread.
and its... slightly..ot from this.
How do the winter tires handle?
Are you much more confident with them in winter vs an all season tire?
Most importantly, how do the tires handle in dry winter weather, late spring etc.?
i go back to my oem wheels with all seasons for winter months, but need tires soon for those wheels and am debating just going for the snow tires since that's all I use these wheels for anyway.
u can pm if you dont want to clutter the thread.
In the summer, I've been using Eagle F1 summer-only performance tires. You really can't compare Blizzaks to Eagle F1's... it's apple and watermelons. Eagle F1's handle excellent in warm weather, and on wet roads. But on cold roads... forget about it. And on snow... get some life insurance.
If you can afford it, my advice is to get the best quality summer tires you can, *and* the best quality snow tires you can, then swap twice a year. It's a PITA to swap rims/tires, but it's worth it to me.
#36
#38
I use Bridgestone Blizzaks in the winter, and they are hands-down the best snow tires I've ever used. Years ago (different cars), I would spend as little money as possible on snows, just to get me through the winter, so the first time I rode on Blizzaks was quite an eye-opener. They are that much more superior to cheap snows.
In the summer, I've been using Eagle F1 summer-only performance tires. You really can't compare Blizzaks to Eagle F1's... it's apple and watermelons. Eagle F1's handle excellent in warm weather, and on wet roads. But on cold roads... forget about it. And on snow... get some life insurance.
If you can afford it, my advice is to get the best quality summer tires you can, *and* the best quality snow tires you can, then swap twice a year. It's a PITA to swap rims/tires, but it's worth it to me.
In the summer, I've been using Eagle F1 summer-only performance tires. You really can't compare Blizzaks to Eagle F1's... it's apple and watermelons. Eagle F1's handle excellent in warm weather, and on wet roads. But on cold roads... forget about it. And on snow... get some life insurance.
If you can afford it, my advice is to get the best quality summer tires you can, *and* the best quality snow tires you can, then swap twice a year. It's a PITA to swap rims/tires, but it's worth it to me.
I think im going to do this, I have no need for all seasons since I only use them manly in one season (late fall, full winter, early spring) One thing I can't decide on is the dry weather conditions on the winter tires. When you drive around at the end of the winter season when its dry and getting warmer, can you notice any cons to driving on snow tires with no snow?
#39
Thanks for the feedback.Yes it is a PITA, usually more in the fall than spring. Due to many reasons.
I think im going to do this, I have no need for all seasons since I only use them manly in one season (late fall, full winter, early spring) One thing I can't decide on is the dry weather conditions on the winter tires. When you drive around at the end of the winter season when its dry and getting warmer, can you notice any cons to driving on snow tires with no snow?
I think im going to do this, I have no need for all seasons since I only use them manly in one season (late fall, full winter, early spring) One thing I can't decide on is the dry weather conditions on the winter tires. When you drive around at the end of the winter season when its dry and getting warmer, can you notice any cons to driving on snow tires with no snow?
In the weeks leading up to Thanksgiving (when I swapped), my Eagles were getting no traction at all in the cold weather. Granted, the tread is terribly worn down, and I won't be using them next year. (Well... the next owner won't be using them, I assume.)