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Old 11-01-2009 | 08:08 AM
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Center Caps for Winter Steelies

I'll be putting my snows on the car in a few weeks. Each Fall I swap out the OEM 17" SE rims with summer tread, for 16" steel rims with snow tires... then back again in the Spring.

For the first few years, I was putting wheel covers on the steel rims. It looked so lame, that for the last couple of years I went bare. And this summer, I even repainted the rims clean and black.

My question: I'd like center caps (dust caps?), because the center nut looks so nasty. The opening is 65mm, or just a hair over 2.5".

Does anyone have any advice?
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i have almost the same setup.. run mine bare as well.. tried covers last year and they wouldnt stay on right and looked like crap.. but no.. i have no advice but im jumping in here to see what others say
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Paint the centre nut black?

I don't know, I'm in the same boat...
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Paint the centre nut black?

I don't know, I'm in the same boat...
That would work for the rear... don't know why I didn't think of that. But the front has the nut & pin, which as I said, is pretty nasty rusty. I'd prefer to put a black plastic cap over both.

We're 0 for 3, guys. Didn't realize this was a common issue. Love to hear from someone with a simple answer.
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I swung by AutoZone this afternoon. Um, no. That was a bust.

And I just wrote to CenterCaps.com with this inquiry. I'll let you guys know if anything comes of that.

[updated]

From Centercaps.com: "Sorry only hubcaps will fit this Steel wheel."

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Old 11-01-2009 | 01:30 PM
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I always wondered if I could get those like the ones on police cruisers...

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The more I look into this, the less confident I feel about finding something that fits the bill. However, these look promising, and at the right diameter give or take a fraction of an inch. Perhaps if the edge were cut/ground down to the flange?

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I popped off one of the rims this evening to take some measurements. Although those silver caps (in the previous post) seem perfect at 2.44" (which is 2 and 7/8"), that's the exact diameter of the lip on the hub. And there's like 1/2 mm gap, so there's no room for a cap even if it did fit.

The answer? Rustoleum, in black. To get the hub nuts off, you'd need a torch anyway, right?

Oh well, it was worth researching. Man, those grease caps sure did look like a solution!
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Been wondering myself ... good thread as there seems to be several looking for the same answer. How about this link Rochester http://www.championtrailers.com/dust_caps.html
or this one http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-3132-t51526.aspx

Found this comment on another site where a guy used "68 cent stainless steel cocktail cups and a little epoxy glue" or even JB weld ... never would have thought of using steel cocktail cups, I'll have to check them out for size fitment. If they fit one would just have to spray paint them black with high heat engine paint.
And another guy used stainless steel shrimp cups, creative little buggers

A little search on the kitchen supply companies and found these http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/...0/p377308.aspx ... I think these guys have the right idea looking at some of the stainless steel desert style cups that can be easily jb weld into place, just need to spent a bit more time in the housewares dept. instead of the automotive dept. ... what do you guys think of this idea?

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Originally Posted by Ghost_54
Been wondering myself ... good thread as there seems to be several looking for the same answer. How about this link Rochester http://www.championtrailers.com/dust_caps.html
or this one http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/p-3132-t51526.aspx

Found this comment on another site where a guy used "68 cent stainless steel cocktail cups and a little epoxy glue" or even JB weld ... never would have thought of using steel cocktail cups, I'll have to check them out for size fitment. If they fit one would just have to spray paint them black with high heat engine paint.
And another guy used stainless steel shrimp cups, creative little buggers

A little search on the kitchen supply companies and found these http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/...0/p377308.aspx ... I think these guys have the right idea looking at some of the stainless steel desert style cups that can be easily jb weld into place, just need to spent a bit more time in the housewares dept. instead of the automotive dept. ... what do you guys think of this idea?
Those 2.5" grease caps are the same ones I posted in that picture a few days ago. Good to know you found a source that's not just ebay.

So let me get this straight: you're proposing adhering the caps to the rims from the outside, rather than fitting them through the centers from the inside? That's pretty good out-of-the-box thinking, Ghost!

It's enough to make me want to buy a couple caps and experiment. If you look at the caps, I think they would have to get ground down to the flange area in order to use them.

I've no experience with this JB Weld stuff, but I've heard it mentioned here a few times... I think in relation to fixing a broken VIAS in the 5.0 gen.
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Well like you I googled searched grease caps - hub dust cover, and then expanded my search to other forums ... when I came across just how a couple of other guys resolved their search by using stainless steel desert dishes from the food service industry, which I thought was very cleaver of them. So on the weekend I will have a look through a few shops here to see what is available to fit this application, I'll let you how I make out.

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Well like you I googled searched grease caps - hub dust cover, and then expanded my search to other forums ... when I cam across just how a couple of other guys resolved their search by using stainless steel desert dishes from the food service industry, which I thought was very cleaver of them. So on the weekend I will have a look through a few shops here to see what is available to fit this application, I'll let you how I make out.
Please do.

Ghost, I will happily defer to your ingenuity, and follow that lead if it works out.

The "cap" really wouldn't need much clearance, if any, right? I should have taken a pic last night to maintain perceptive. Darn.

I'm thinking the snows will be on the car in about 2 or 3 weeks.
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Well I will be very surprised if the snow holds off for two to three weeks, it's already very cold in the morning here around the zero and windy-rain off and on so you know the snow is right behind it ... where did the Indian summer go? I so look forward to it every year ... it was just to damn short
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Really? You think that soon? Used to be I would wait until the first week of December before putting on the snows, but you're right that it's getting pretty threatening lately. I've been watching the forecast every day now. I really hate this game, waiting for snowfall.

I got caught unprepared one year, and stranded at home for half a day waiting for thaw. You do NOT want to drive on snow with Eagle F1 tires!



I've been using Bridgestone Blizzaks for years now. Very happy. Just bought a set of 4 for my wife's Honda this week.


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That would work for the rear... don't know why I didn't think of that. But the front has the nut & pin, which as I said, is pretty nasty rusty. I'd prefer to put a black plastic cap over both.

We're 0 for 3, guys. Didn't realize this was a common issue. Love to hear from someone with a simple answer.
Here's yet another idea, and they say they can handle heat, which is good thing when it comes to covering the bolt threads.

http://www.componentforce.com/en/category/32/epdm-caps
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Originally Posted by Ghost_54
Here's yet another idea, and they say they can handle heat, which is good thing when it comes to covering the bolt threads.

http://www.componentforce.com/en/category/32/epdm-caps
Assuming an appropriate diameter, then cut down for a reasonable height, they would probably look great.

Except, how would you mount it so it stays put? You would have to weld some kind of clip to the lip on the center opening.
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If the look of the steelies bug you, maybe you should look around for a cheap set 4th gen 5 spoke 16"s and just swap the tires. Dunno, just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Rhyno02
If the look of the steelies bug you, maybe you should look around for a cheap set 4th gen 5 spoke 16"s and just swap the tires. Dunno, just a thought.
Actually, the steelies look kind of rugged in the winter. Particularly when new, or newly painted. Although that appeal wears off around February, when the car starts looking like an unwashed import from Chernobyl.

I was just fishing for ideas about a minor observation. Not looking to spend more than a few bucks to address it. In fact, maybe only the cost of a spraycan of Rustoleum.

I've been getting PM's from Ghost_54... it's his project now (Hi, Jim.) I'm just a bystander waiting to see what he figures out.
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It might be fun in a few weeks to start a thread about winter pictures. Steelies, snows, and winter crud on our rides. Fun in a masochistic sort of way, maybe.
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Originally Posted by Lontar1
try this.........
Andrew Dice Clay used to laugh at his own jokes.

I'd say that worked out really well for him, too.
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Andrew Dice Clay used to laugh at his own jokes.

I'd say that worked out really well for him, too.
well I was just giving you an idea on what to use to cover the Pin and Nut... it looks funny but if you thing about it... is either that or running your car w/o it. my .02
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Andrew Dice Clay used to laugh at his own jokes.

I'd say that worked out really well for him, too.
well I was just giving you an idea on what to use to cover the Pin and Nut... it looks funny but if you thing about it... is either that or running your car w/o it. my .02

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just put some spinner hub caps on yo, lol and you can be fly all year round mang hahaha
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Well, it might have been a good idea, particularly for the front wheels. But it's freezing out, and will snow any day now... so I put the snows on last night. I think I'll re-visit this idea about caps next Spring, when there's more time and warmer temps.

As for the centers... for now, some black Rustoleum is about all I can come up with.

And now, 4 months of driving with snow tires. Yuck.



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im delaying putting mine on as far as possible lol...

they dont look THAT bad
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Bumping this old thread... mine anyway, so meh.

A few weeks ago we had a nice 60+ degree day, perfect for some final car-care, and for swapping the steelies on the car. As I was doing this, it occurred to me that I had a little POR-15 left over after repainting the steelies this Fall. They were getting rusty, and after some positive experience with Chassis Saver, I thought I'd give POR-15 a shot.

Anyway, to the topic... a little POR-15, and it looks great. Nice and black. No need for caps.
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where do you guys get your steelies from?
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Originally Posted by luvlexus101
where do you guys get your steelies from?
Well, in my case, it was TireRack.com. But that was 9 years ago. I don't think TireRack does steelies anymore. Other tire places do, though, for winter packages. Look around.
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I have seen alot of aftermaket wheels with no center caps with those ugly things showing.. , looks so bad.

and its... slightly..ot from this.
How do the winter tires handle?
Are you much more confident with them in winter vs an all season tire?
Most importantly, how do the tires handle in dry winter weather, late spring etc.?

i go back to my oem wheels with all seasons for winter months, but need tires soon for those wheels and am debating just going for the snow tires since that's all I use these wheels for anyway.
u can pm if you dont want to clutter the thread.
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Originally Posted by Prophecy99
I have seen alot of aftermaket wheels with no center caps with those ugly things showing.. , looks so bad.

and its... slightly..ot from this.
How do the winter tires handle?
Are you much more confident with them in winter vs an all season tire?
Most importantly, how do the tires handle in dry winter weather, late spring etc.?

i go back to my oem wheels with all seasons for winter months, but need tires soon for those wheels and am debating just going for the snow tires since that's all I use these wheels for anyway.
u can pm if you dont want to clutter the thread.
I use Bridgestone Blizzaks in the winter, and they are hands-down the best snow tires I've ever used. Years ago (different cars), I would spend as little money as possible on snows, just to get me through the winter, so the first time I rode on Blizzaks was quite an eye-opener. They are that much more superior to cheap snows.

In the summer, I've been using Eagle F1 summer-only performance tires. You really can't compare Blizzaks to Eagle F1's... it's apple and watermelons. Eagle F1's handle excellent in warm weather, and on wet roads. But on cold roads... forget about it. And on snow... get some life insurance.

If you can afford it, my advice is to get the best quality summer tires you can, *and* the best quality snow tires you can, then swap twice a year. It's a PITA to swap rims/tires, but it's worth it to me.
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OAN, not like it matters one way or another, but hang on as this becomes yet another "tire" thread.

In three... two... one...
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The more I look into this, the less confident I feel about finding something that fits the bill. However, these look promising, and at the right diameter give or take a fraction of an inch. Perhaps if the edge were cut/ground down to the flange?

Those look like salt shaker caps without the holes

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Good eye.

Yeah, I'm done. POR 15, people. Just paint 'em black and wait for Spring.
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I use Bridgestone Blizzaks in the winter, and they are hands-down the best snow tires I've ever used. Years ago (different cars), I would spend as little money as possible on snows, just to get me through the winter, so the first time I rode on Blizzaks was quite an eye-opener. They are that much more superior to cheap snows.

In the summer, I've been using Eagle F1 summer-only performance tires. You really can't compare Blizzaks to Eagle F1's... it's apple and watermelons. Eagle F1's handle excellent in warm weather, and on wet roads. But on cold roads... forget about it. And on snow... get some life insurance.

If you can afford it, my advice is to get the best quality summer tires you can, *and* the best quality snow tires you can, then swap twice a year. It's a PITA to swap rims/tires, but it's worth it to me.
Thanks for the feedback.Yes it is a PITA, usually more in the fall than spring. Due to many reasons.
I think im going to do this, I have no need for all seasons since I only use them manly in one season (late fall, full winter, early spring) One thing I can't decide on is the dry weather conditions on the winter tires. When you drive around at the end of the winter season when its dry and getting warmer, can you notice any cons to driving on snow tires with no snow?
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Thanks for the feedback.Yes it is a PITA, usually more in the fall than spring. Due to many reasons.
I think im going to do this, I have no need for all seasons since I only use them manly in one season (late fall, full winter, early spring) One thing I can't decide on is the dry weather conditions on the winter tires. When you drive around at the end of the winter season when its dry and getting warmer, can you notice any cons to driving on snow tires with no snow?
All tires get better grip when the pavement gets warmer. I'd say the reverse is true, as well.

In the weeks leading up to Thanksgiving (when I swapped), my Eagles were getting no traction at all in the cold weather. Granted, the tread is terribly worn down, and I won't be using them next year. (Well... the next owner won't be using them, I assume.)
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Our accord has covers for the centers... I'll measure them fer yeah tonight.


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