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Old 01-20-2010, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
Since I'm going to be doing this as soon as I get my new set of bulbs in, I can probably do a write-up if I can get a hold of a camera. It's not too difficult, really just more tedious than anything.
that would be awesome!

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no glare my friend. never been pulled over and ive never even been flashed once. also i do not have the short bulbs, and my glare shields are in 100% factory positioning. think abou tthat one lol
What is the purpose of having fog lamps with beam scatter like that?
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that would be awesome!

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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
Since I'm going to be doing this as soon as I get my new set of bulbs in, I can probably do a write-up if I can get a hold of a camera. It's not too difficult, really just more tedious than anything.
yeah do a write up im lost on where to put my ballast for the foglights.
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yeah do a write up im lost on where to put my ballast for the foglights.
I mounted mine against the backs of the OEM headlight HID ballast mounts. I'll get some pictures as soon as I find a functioning camera. Mine crapped out on me.
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
I mounted mine against the backs of the OEM headlight HID ballast mounts. I'll get some pictures as soon as I find a functioning camera. Mine crapped out on me.
is there anyway you can get some pics showing me what it is meant by long and short bulbs so i have a reference.

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is there anyway you can get some pics showing me what it is meant by long and short bulbs so i have a reference.

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The H3 is the tall one. See why the H3C scatters the beam pattern?
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267


The H3 is the tall one. See why the H3C scatters the beam pattern?
yea i do. hell it looks smaller than a normal hallogen H3. so what are the ones with the DDM tuning kits considered? and does it make a difference if they come closed up?

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check this hid promo I found its cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTSC5cIigRs
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267


The H3 is the tall one. See why the H3C scatters the beam pattern?
My H3C's were still like the longer ones in style, but they were shorter with the arc in a different place. I'll have to take some pictures when I get home.
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:58 PM
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I think that 3K HID's look great
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Old 01-20-2010, 03:54 PM
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Here's a picture of the H3C's I got vs the H3's. They're not a lot shorter (though noticeable), but you can see the location where the arc will be is shifted quite a bit toward the base.

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Originally Posted by Stereodude
Here's a picture of the H3C's I got vs the H3's. They're not a lot shorter (though noticeable), but you can see the location where the arc will be is shifted quite a bit toward the base.

ok thanks. i plan to pick up a set soon after i get my shifter bushings and STS kit on. (also after i determine whether i need a new suspension .

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Hey guys, it'll be a few more days till I can get around to doing the write-up. It's raining like hell in Nashville, and I don't really have a garage to work in, so I have to do all my work in my driveway unfortunately...that and my plans for this weekend are to install my headers, so hopefully by sometime next week I'll have a chance to get some photos.
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Originally Posted by SteveB123
What is the purpose of having fog lamps with beam scatter like that?
honestly as long as my fogs are more yellow and brighter than the next guys, without blinding people, im happy. the stock HID's output plus hiid fog lights output is more than enough for my needs. **** a cut-off...its not like theyre projectors or anything
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
Hey guys, it'll be a few more days till I can get around to doing the write-up. It's raining like hell in Nashville, and I don't really have a garage to work in, so I have to do all my work in my driveway unfortunately...that and my plans for this weekend are to install my headers, so hopefully by sometime next week I'll have a chance to get some photos.
did you have to modify the caps on the fog housing to get the wires in ? i know my kit was far from P-n-P.

headers hmmmmm... what kind are they. and take the manifold off. it takes less than 20 min. and makes the job WAYYYY easier...
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There are some misinformation in this thread.

In the aftermarket H3 HID bulbs category, there are THREE types of bulbs.

1. Regular HID bulb with H3 base ~2.5" long
2. H3 mini ~1" long as pictured by stereodude
3. H3c looks like a halogen H3 bulb

Technically the H3c should work best because it mimics the beam pattern of a regular H3 bulb. However there is a difference in beam pattern of a halogen vs HID arc so some might feel bulb option 1 or 2 works "better".

For 3000K HID bulbs, 95% on the market are yellow/green, 5% are the golden yellow most want. So far from personal experience the only golden yellow is from operatic the forum sponsor, but you must add $5 IIRC for the custom yellow option. DDM is the yellow/green, and I would suspect most eBay kits are too.

Lastly the DIY steps to install one of these kits have been posted before, search around. But be sure to do the install right the first time and use a relay harness, which can be bought for $15 on eBay (just search H3 relay).
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Originally Posted by QNO_A32
did you have to modify the caps on the fog housing to get the wires in ? i know my kit was far from P-n-P.

headers hmmmmm... what kind are they. and take the manifold off. it takes less than 20 min. and makes the job WAYYYY easier...
I was in a rush, so I cut corners and just plugged the wires up, but yeah, I will have to do some serious mods to the caps when I do the full install. Looks like I'll be punching out the little hole where the wires run through, cutting the tabs off the end of the HIDs and then re-attaching it after I run them through...

Edit: Oh yeah, I picked up a set of OBX V2's. I was planning on pulling the manifold, I just need to find a gasket. No way am I going to pay my Nissan dealer $35 for the upper plenum gasket...
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Originally Posted by QNO_A32
honestly as long as my fogs are more yellow and brighter than the next guys, without blinding people, im happy.
Ahh.
Form over function.
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Originally Posted by n3985
2. H3 mini ~1" long as pictured by stereodude
The two bulbs I posted a picture of are ~1.5" long and ~1.375" long respectively (measuring the length of the glass part only)
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Originally Posted by n3985
There are some misinformation in this thread.

In the aftermarket H3 HID bulbs category, there are THREE types of bulbs.

1. Regular HID bulb with H3 base ~2.5" long
2. H3 mini ~1" long as pictured by stereodude
3. H3c looks like a halogen H3 bulb

Technically the H3c should work best because it mimics the beam pattern of a regular H3 bulb. However there is a difference in beam pattern of a halogen vs HID arc so some might feel bulb option 1 or 2 works "better".

For 3000K HID bulbs, 95% on the market are yellow/green, 5% are the golden yellow most want. So far from personal experience the only golden yellow is from operatic the forum sponsor, but you must add $5 IIRC for the custom yellow option. DDM is the yellow/green, and I would suspect most eBay kits are too.

Lastly the DIY steps to install one of these kits have been posted before, search around. But be sure to do the install right the first time and use a relay harness, which can be bought for $15 on eBay (just search H3 relay).
thanks for the advice. i will look into those. I want the best light output possible and i want the install to be right so i dont blow anything.

ill check the operatic set up

also what is your opinion of the hidextra.com kits?

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Old 01-22-2010, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanMan97
also what is your opinion of the hidextra.com kits?
I bought two kits for my friends, one 4300K 9006, one 3000K 9006. The 4300K from day one was mismatched in color, one looked 5000K. One of the 3000K bulbs burned out in 3 weeks. It wasn't installation error because I have been installing these for a long time now.

One of my operatic ballasts blew a couple yrs back on my ex's car, e-mail to operatic = hassle free overnight replacement ballast, with paid envelope to send bad one back. HIDextra had the usual coverage, send us back the part ($), we'll review it (time), then send out replacement (more $).
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Originally Posted by n3985
I bought two kits for my friends, one 4300K 9006, one 3000K 9006. The 4300K from day one was mismatched in color, one looked 5000K. One of the 3000K bulbs burned out in 3 weeks. It wasn't installation error because I have been installing these for a long time now.

One of my operatic ballasts blew a couple yrs back on my ex's car, e-mail to operatic = hassle free overnight replacement ballast, with paid envelope to send bad one back. HIDextra had the usual coverage, send us back the part ($), we'll review it (time), then send out replacement (more $).
so basically spend the extra cash on the operatic set up.

is it true PnP? i see that it comes with a relay and everything but am i going to have to do some mods to the housings and what not?

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HID kits are HID kits, 99% of them come from the same places in China with different labels i.e. brand. Therefore don't let the name sway you one way or another because technically the kits are all the same. Important thing is service/warranty, which operatic has proven to me to be the best thus far. The kit for your fog will be PnP wiring wise, however due to the design of the fog light it's is best you make some mods so you can re-use the factory cap.
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Originally Posted by n3985
HID kits are HID kits, 99% of them come from the same places in China with different labels i.e. brand. Therefore don't let the name sway you one way or another because technically the kits are all the same. Important thing is service/warranty, which operatic has proven to me to be the best thus far. The kit for your fog will be PnP wiring wise, however due to the design of the fog light it's is best you make some mods so you can re-use the factory cap.
far enough. i saw you comment about the H3 and H3c...which would you recommend? i want the best performance with looks second. i dont want a scattered light beam or poor light output

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Honestly if I had the luxury of a big round fog lights like on the 5/5.5 gen Maximas, I would retrofit in a pair of H3 projectors then add an HID kit to that. For example if you fit the 6th gen Maxima's H3 projectors in, plus an HID kit, you literally could just drive around with those on only. Projectors are much better at light output than any reflector system.

But to answer your question, the bulb type doesn't really matter *that* much, true H3c (the baby ones) don't come in 3000K, so you will definitely receive either the H3 mini or regular H3, both will work fine.
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Originally Posted by n3985
Honestly if I had the luxury of a big round fog lights like on the 5/5.5 gen Maximas, I would retrofit in a pair of H3 projectors then add an HID kit to that. For example if you fit the 6th gen Maxima's H3 projectors in, plus an HID kit, you literally could just drive around with those on only. Projectors are much better at light output than any reflector system.

But to answer your question, the bulb type doesn't really matter *that* much, true H3c (the baby ones) don't come in 3000K, so you will definitely receive either the H3 mini or regular H3, both will work fine.
ok...the retro sounds like a fun project...i need to break my down and clean them out anyway...

thanks for the help

something like maxspeed H3

or OEM H3 yellow

or 300zx H3 projector

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