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Old 01-28-2010 | 10:41 PM
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CustomMaxima Performance Headers??

I'll been looking for modds for 2002 maxima se and I came across headers & Y pipe for 180$
I just got thinking that they couldnt be as good as OBX headers but i may be wrong.

Tell me what you think..

Heres the web site.
http://www.custommaxima.com/product/...s/Default.aspx
Old 01-28-2010 | 10:53 PM
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Shipping is $50 so its gonna be $230. The website says fit 2000-2002 maxima, but not 2003?
Old 01-28-2010 | 11:01 PM
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that still isnt that bad you knoww..
you think they are worth getting?
Old 01-28-2010 | 11:32 PM
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As good as OBX? As far as I know, they have a reputation for not being all that great.

If they fit an 02 they 100% will fit an 03. But I think there are fitment issues between 5th GEN and 5.5 GEN. Seems sketchy or at least uninformed. Ide stay away.
Old 01-29-2010 | 05:27 AM
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they are just chrome stockers bu the looks of it, and for only 10 HP?
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people still use custom maxima
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You mean there are other "performance headers" other then Cattman out there?
Old 01-29-2010 | 06:58 AM
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they are not equal length

prob not a thick gauge metal

def not stainless steel

..BUT... they are cheap

get what you pay for....

no hate to custom maxima,..i cant wait till they come out with their dual tip exhaust..
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Originally Posted by SoonerFan
people still use custom maxima
yeah,.. but this is the "NEW" custom maxima,.. new owners..new parts.. new manufactures... just the same name..
Old 01-29-2010 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mist max2000
yeah,.. but this is the "NEW" custom maxima,.. new owners..new parts.. new manufactures... just the same name..
well based on the name alone i will never purchase anything from them...they should have changed the name
Old 01-29-2010 | 08:10 AM
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FWIW, I think they're kind of sacrificing quality for quantity.

I have a FSTB from the old CustomMaxima site. It's about 5 times beefier than the ones they have advertised on the site now...

Not saying that I wouldn't order from them. They do have some decent stuff. It's just a matter of figuring out what's good and what's not.
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Yet another header thread
Old 01-29-2010 | 08:51 AM
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Yet another header thread
Oh lord... Here we go... Read my mind exactly. Come on guys, the other one that was just posted last week is still receivin hot flamming, let's just keep the names OBX and CATTMAN OUT of this one..

Originally Posted by Deckdout2
You mean there are other "performance headers" other then Cattman out there?



Originally Posted by The6spdMax
Shipping is $50 so its gonna be $230. The website says fit 2000-2002 maxima, but not 2003?
Anytime they are written incorrerectly, as stated, means they prob won't be perfect fit.. Also those are shortys, I really don't like the looks of them...
Obx and cattman are at least somewhat look alikes with longer collectors and the y pipe isn't that far off. Mainly the 3.5y but these just look iffy.....
However i state again that the "2000-2002" makes me skeptical about fitment if they didn't even take the time to make sure it fits an 03, hopefully just a typo..
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
FWIW, I think they're kind of sacrificing quality for quantity.

I have a FSTB from the old CustomMaxima site. It's about 5 times beefier than the ones they have advertised on the site now...

Not saying that I wouldn't order from them. They do have some decent stuff. It's just a matter of figuring out what's good and what's not.
Funny, you mentioned that. I have one for sale as we speak in the 5th Gen Classifieds.
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Originally Posted by mist max2000
def not stainless steel
If you live in the snow belt, that's a show-stopper.

Originally Posted by e-subliminal-2
...the "2000-2002" makes me skeptical about fitment if they didn't even take the time to make sure it fits an 03, hopefully just a typo.
Even if it is a type-o, I'm inclined to say it's a pretty serious one, and demonstrates a lack of detail that may be represented in other ways. The company name is CustomMaxima, for crying out loud, but they can't get the model years right? As a 2003 owner, the phrase WTF? immediately comes to mind, and makes me predisposed to question everything. Too bad, too. I really like the idea of a Maxima-focused business.

On a related note, it's rather annoying being forced to select "Nissan" (make) and "Maxima" (model) when those are the only options in those combo boxes.

And what is that 2-door maxima on their logo?



To be sure, it's a cool looking image, but what is it? Wouldn't it be awesome if Nissan produced something like this under the name 240SX?

And gave it RWD?

And a 6MT?
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^^ i think its photo-chopped off a 2door civic or accord...personally i think its kinda dumb
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they are shorty headers, not worth the investment, we all know it.

The only real gains gained are because of the y-pipe

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Originally Posted by mist max2000
^^ i think its photo-chopped off a 2door civic or accord...personally i think its kinda dumb
If it's entirely make-believe (um, yeah), then it's a highly inaccurate image to represent a business marketing products for real cars. Like you said, Mist-Max, it seems dumb. They're selling products to a targeted market exclusively described by a 4-door sedan of one make and model... and using a logo that's a 2-door mash-up of something else entirely?

Like the 2000-2002 snafu, this gives cause to question the overall business sense of CustomMaxima. I could see where someone might think I'm taking that too far, but that's my gut reaction. And if one person feels this way, then there are probably lots of similar, unspoken opinions out there. It's not Rocket Science, it's Marketing 101.

Actually, it's just common sense, and the lack thereof.
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Most ppl will hate but I personally think its a tight look with the 2dr max... its a friggin photo ppl get the **** over it... I don't even think there is a "maxima" body kit for a civic to even try it ... the things that grown men get distracted by nowadays is outrageous
Old 01-29-2010 | 01:21 PM
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like i said...will never order anything from them...dont trust them as a company
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Originally Posted by DrunkieTheBear
they are shorty headers, not worth the investment, we all know it.

The only real gains gained are because of the y-pipe

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Getting rid of the precats helps too. Just at that price the quality becomes suspect. Good materials, welds and fit all cost money.
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lookin for cheap here ya go...... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96...Q5fAccessories

whether they fit on the 3.5 im not sure

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This will never end I see.... I swear ppl start these threads just to get the org going
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If that illustrated picture is of the actual header assy, then My perception is this:
1. Neither 2002 nor 2003 have EGR fittings on the manifold...
2. The header design seems to be "Super Shorty Headers"!
3. The Ypipe design is definitely not equal lenght...
4. Collector size is kinda confusing (2.85") but I'm sure it'll bolt up.
Hell if certain folks bought the OBX, I would definitely try it out if I had another 5.5th Gen Maxima....Just to see what kinda power they make and how they work in conjunction with other bolt-ons....Especially for $180....

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Originally Posted by StenholmEngineering
lookin for cheap here ya go...... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96...Q5fAccessories

whether they fit on the 3.5 im not sure
Wow, they're almost the same....2.85" collector outlet.....EGR provisions!!!! VQ is VQ...Alot of folks have fitted VQ30 headers to VQ35...Same heads anyway I thought...the difference wll be the Ypipe fitment with the body/Xmember and exhaust location of Cat inlet....
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I wouldn't put those on my car. The shorty design of the header and the unequal length Y-pipe both cost power. They do it because it's a lot cheaper.

Just spend a little more for the OBX. It's a proven design and people here have had good luck with them. If I had to replace my HotShot headers, and didn't want to spring for the Cattman, I'd go with the OBX.
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I wouldn't put those on my car. The shorty design of the header and the unequal length Y-pipe both cost power. They do it because it's a lot cheaper.

Just spend a little more for the OBX. It's a proven design and people here have had good luck with them. If I had to replace my HotShot headers, and didn't want to spring for the Cattman, I'd go with the OBX.


Well put sir
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Originally Posted by Derrick2k2SE
I wouldn't put those on my car. The shorty design of the header and the unequal length Y-pipe both cost power. They do it because it's a lot cheaper.

Just spend a little more for the OBX. It's a proven design and people here have had good luck with them. If I had to replace my HotShot headers, and didn't want to spring for the Cattman, I'd go with the OBX.
I beg to differ just a little... unequal length does not sacrifice power (maybe a different sound) for 5.5 there is no proven gain with shorty headers because there isn't many people who tried em on there 5.5, they just go OBX or cattman... the main power gain is the removal of precats.... these are moreso proven on the 4th gens as there is dyno numbers for them.... 5.5 is unknown but I do understand the logic behind the shorty headers
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I beg to differ just a little... unequal length does not sacrifice power (maybe a different sound) for 5.5 there is no proven gain with shorty headers because there isn't many people who tried em on there 5.5, they just go OBX or cattman... the main power gain is the removal of precats.... these are moreso proven on the 4th gens as there is dyno numbers for them.... 5.5 is unknown but I do understand the logic behind the shorty headers
Exactly, strictly sound.
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I beg to differ just a little... unequal length does not sacrifice power (maybe a different sound) for 5.5 there is no proven gain with shorty headers because there isn't many people who tried em on there 5.5, they just go OBX or cattman... the main power gain is the removal of precats.... these are moreso proven on the 4th gens as there is dyno numbers for them.... 5.5 is unknown but I do understand the logic behind the shorty headers
Now I'm impressed with your response! Yes your correct...but if the gentleman above was correct...Why did the Cattman ypipe make good power on the 5th and 5.5th (with precats)? ILike I stated above if I had an extra 5/5.5th Gen I would buy those just to test it out......Hell ppl gave the OBX a chance and they won over a pretty good following....
Originally Posted by e-subliminal-2
Exactly, strictly sound.
I really like this .....****
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This CustomMaxima hate needs to stop. They were misinformed by their part producers, wherever they may be. I mentioned this 00-02 mistake on their GB thread, and it was noted. The headers shown are meant for the VQ30 so there's no need even battling about them for the 3.5 unless proven to fit.

The comments about the site... All I have to say is "cattman.com". I've been waiting for years to see a new version. It's one of the most respected vendors here so clearly a website doesn't have to be our source. I understand some of the parts or even web images don't appeal to everyone, but give them a chance. I had great luck with purchases with the last owners.

Also, to comment about the headers themselves, what makes you believe that these won't be SS? They are working on a 2.5" (and hopefully 3" soon) mandrel bent, SS catback on the cheap.
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Originally Posted by CMax03
Now I'm impressed with your response! Yes your correct...but if the gentleman above was correct...Why did the Cattman ypipe make good power on the 5th and 5.5th (with precats)? ILike I stated above if I had an extra 5/5.5th Gen I would buy those just to test it out......Hell ppl gave the OBX a chance and they won over a pretty good following....


I really like this .....****
Cattman y gave its 5-7whp because u are upgrading the smaller piping but the y-pipe gains are minimal
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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ
This CustomMaxima hate needs to stop. They were misinformed by their part producers, wherever they may be. I mentioned this 00-02 mistake on their GB thread, and it was noted. The headers shown are meant for the VQ30 so there's no need even battling about them for the 3.5 unless proven to fit.

The comments about the site... All I have to say is "cattman.com". I've been waiting for years to see a new version. It's one of the most respected vendors here so clearly a website doesn't have to be our source. I understand some of the parts or even web images don't appeal to everyone, but give them a chance. I had great luck with purchases with the last owners.

Also, to comment about the headers themselves, what makes you believe that these won't be SS? They are working on a 2.5" (and hopefully 3" soon) mandrel bent, SS catback on the cheap.
how is it misleading??? Headers made for 4th gens also fits the 5th gen.... why do u think some ppl ended up with egr's on their cattman headers??? That's cause they all fit
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What I meant was that either a part will fit only the VQ30 and be limited to 00-01 or fit both the VQ30 & 35, therefore 00-03. Nothing would limit it to the 02, and it was a slip on their part by just listening to their part producers.
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... o.k... minor mistake
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I beg to differ just a little... unequal length does not sacrifice power (maybe a different sound) for 5.5 there is no proven gain with shorty headers because there isn't many people who tried em on there 5.5, they just go OBX or cattman... the main power gain is the removal of precats.... these are moreso proven on the 4th gens as there is dyno numbers for them.... 5.5 is unknown but I do understand the logic behind the shorty headers
My main concern is really the Shoryt headers. Someone was making a set of shorty headers about 4 or 5 years ago and people weren't seeing any gains at all on the dynos.

I just looked at the OBX website. I don't remember them being so expensive. They cost more than my Hotshots back in 05. I didn't see the headers on Cattmans site. How much are they running now?

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Originally Posted by Derrick2k2SE
My main concern is really the Shoryt headers. Someone was making a set of shorty headers about 4 or 5 years ago and people weren't seeing any gains at all on the dynos.

I just looked at the OBX website. I don't remember them being so expensive. They cost more than my Hotshots back in 05. I didn't see the headers on Cattmans site. How much are they running now?
I believe they're about 350 with 50 shipping. However Shortys can't be banged till tried also. A LARGE reason for hp gains is losing the extremely restrictive pre-cats. After that it's just pipping. Of course of course there are varying factors such as the length of the headers/collectors/bends, but I still believe the main thing is removing the pre-cats. After that everything else is just adding gravy.
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I believe they're about 350 with 50 shipping. However Shortys can't be banged till tried also. A LARGE reason for hp gains is losing the extremely restrictive pre-cats. After that it's just pipping. Of course of course there are varying factors such as the length of the headers/collectors/bends, but I still believe the main thing is removing the pre-cats. After that everything else is just adding gravy.
Removing the precats is part of it but removing the restrictive manifolds is worth a lot too. The manifolds on the 3.5 are very restrictive and unbalanced. They're actually a pretty poor design that robs power.

Keep in mind that headers have been considered the best bang for the buck modification since the 1960s. That's long before there were precats or even cats in general. It's also been known that long tube headers make more power than shortys. Shortys work well if there are space requirements but it's a sacrifice.

I look at headers as the foundation of a bolt on performance build. They multiply the gains of every other bolt on. If you sacrifice on the headers you won't get the full benefit of all the other mods. As you add other mods like; exhaust, intake and tune the amount of power not being made adds up.

The website claims the shortys are good for 10hp. The long tube headers like Cattman, OBX and Hotshot are proven to add 20hp+. Sure the shortys are cheaper but how much will you spend on other mods to get the other 10hp? IMO it would be better in the long run to spend the extra money on good headers even if it means waiting to save it up.
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There is no dyno numbers here stating that shorty headers had no gain on a 5.5... only person to dyno was blackkillagtr on a mustang dyno and he got 208whp which is probebly equivalent to 230+whp on a dynojet... plus he had major problems with his car (auto) knock sensor issues and a motor with over 200K.... I haven heard of anybody else other than that...



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