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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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kick myself in the ****, if i was thinking ahead i wouldve gottn one of the system with the wideband bung in it... damn me
Shouldn't be more than 10$ @ any exhaust shop. Not a huge deal, just a slight inconvenience.
Old Aug 20, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Shouldn't be more than 10$ @ any exhaust shop. Not a huge deal, just a slight inconvenience.
yea probebly.. i hope, i know how shops here love to overcharge
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Cattman 3in'' has arrived on my way to get it from my parents house and the package was pretty big like Damn was speeding to go get it and back home had some where to be and at a light a Mazda 6 try to get the jump on me till left his *** then at the next light trying to fight with me I'm like you try to take off and get beat to it and now you cry about it, but after opening it up I was like damn this piping is big and cant wait to get this
B!tch on to get some more Power!! And Hustle yours is a coming also just be patient I know it's a B##ch!!
Old Aug 20, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Cattman 3in'' has arrived on my way to get it from my parents house and the package was pretty big like Damn was speeding to go get it and back home had some where to be and at a light a Mazda 6 try to get the jump on me till left his *** then at the next light trying to fight with me I'm like you try to take off and get beat to it and now you cry about it, but after opening it up I was like damn this piping is big and cant wait to get this
B!tch on to get some more Power!! And Hustle yours is a coming also just be patient I know it's a B##ch!!
I'm here waiting... I hate the wait... post a video clip
Old Aug 21, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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Just stored my 2.5" Cattman Catback after getting it back from a buddy who used it for about 2-3 months...now he's really eager to build or buy a 3" catback since he was able to see the direct gains from that bolt on.....
Old Aug 21, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I'm here waiting... I hate the wait... post a video clip
Just installed today, by my God Damn self a B!tch could of used a extra set of hands but oh well got it done did a video before and after should put them on youtube but something with the computer so will try tomorrow but all I can say is damn I love this thing I thought it was kind of loud like WTF is that me but let my wife drive and I was outside of the car and fell in love like Damn that sounds nice she went about a block busted a U-turn and gunned it I was like damn that sounds so good!!
So Cattman another very satisfied customer and doesn't sound ricey at all just super sexy!!And comparison of the pipe VS stock is like Damn!! Going to put on cardomain page soon!!
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Just installed today, by my God Damn self a B!tch could of used a extra set of hands but oh well got it done did a video before and after should put them on youtube but something with the computer so will try tomorrow but all I can say is damn I love this thing I thought it was kind of loud like WTF is that me but let my wife drive and I was outside of the car and fell in love like Damn that sounds nice she went about a block busted a U-turn and gunned it I was like damn that sounds so good!!
So Cattman another very satisfied customer and doesn't sound ricey at all just super sexy!!And comparison of the pipe VS stock is like Damn!! Going to put on cardomain page soon!!
Proof that excitement eliminates punctuation! Glad you like the exhaust. Can't wait to have mine.
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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How many independent dyno's are there of this exhaust? I've been out of the loop for a while.
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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most ppl dont dyno it for some strange reason...i dont mind dynoing a before and after difference between the 2, however im not gonna pay to dyno my current 2.5" catback setup as i dont care for it or to see the power gain difference, so if somebody is willing to chip in on the dyno then i can head out there on any given monday to dyno the 2.5" catback... however ill most likely be dynoing the 3" catback with a few additional mods, if anybody knew how off the dyno was at maxus then i guess thats a fair comparison, i dynoed 228whp there i believe, seems like the dyno was about 20-25hp off... so with that said ill wait til i get my cattback then dyno it, again this will be with other mods as im not gonna pay $85 just to satisfy a few iffy ppl then another 85$ with just the catback difference then $85 with the additional mods
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I'm here waiting... I hate the wait... post a video clip
Here is a shot and can anybody help with the engine sound when letting off the gas..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86XbiPa0IzQ Before Exhaust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcAj1ffamM8 After Exhaust
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Here is a shot and can anybody help with the engine sound when letting off the gas..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86XbiPa0IzQ Before Exhaust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcAj1ffamM8 After Exhaust
sounds great man. i need to grab some cash to hand it over to Mr.catts
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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good shyt man... if you thought it was loud without headers then my goodness your gonna be in for it lls
Old Aug 22, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
most ppl dont dyno it for some strange reason...i dont mind dynoing a before and after difference between the 2, however im not gonna pay to dyno my current 2.5" catback setup as i dont care for it or to see the power gain difference, so if somebody is willing to chip in on the dyno then i can head out there on any given monday to dyno the 2.5" catback... however ill most likely be dynoing the 3" catback with a few additional mods, if anybody knew how off the dyno was at maxus then i guess thats a fair comparison, i dynoed 228whp there i believe, seems like the dyno was about 20-25hp off... so with that said ill wait til i get my cattback then dyno it, again this will be with other mods as im not gonna pay $85 just to satisfy a few iffy ppl then another 85$ with just the catback difference then $85 with the additional mods
come to okc to dyno it, only $40 on wednesdays
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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good shyt man... if you thought it was loud without headers then my goodness your gonna be in for it lls
Yeah today it sounded more quieter and getting quieter I think since it didn't have no carbon build up like people said its going to be loud cause the first day I was Like F##k, cause I had to hit the freeway to go home!! But on the freeway its a blast like Damn!!
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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any more units available and in stock right now? what is wide-band?:S
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Shouldn't be more than 10$ @ any exhaust shop. Not a huge deal, just a slight inconvenience.

Here's a tip - make absolutely sure they use a stainless steel bung so you can get the sensor in and out easily at a later date. If you're not sure, put a magnet on it. The s/s used for O2 ports is not magnetic.

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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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ALWAYS glad to hear from a pleased customer. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Just installed today, by my God Damn self a B!tch could of used a extra set of hands but oh well got it done did a video before and after should put them on youtube but something with the computer so will try tomorrow but all I can say is damn I love this thing I thought it was kind of loud like WTF is that me but let my wife drive and I was outside of the car and fell in love like Damn that sounds nice she went about a block busted a U-turn and gunned it I was like damn that sounds so good!!
So Cattman another very satisfied customer and doesn't sound ricey at all just super sexy!!And comparison of the pipe VS stock is like Damn!! Going to put on cardomain page soon!!
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PulsarGTS
How many independent dyno's are there of this exhaust? I've been out of the loop for a while.
Since we're never done any, any/all the dynos are independent. OTOH, we understand and run a strict protocol when we do a dyno, and most people doing it for the heck of it do not, so our numbers (when we run them) tend to be more reliable than our customers'.

FWIW, we never dyno catback systems. There's no rocket science or trial and error in a Maxima catback; you do it right - don't cut any corners or make any compromises in design, component selection or fabrication - and you get what you get.

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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Here is a shot and can anybody help with the engine sound when letting off the gas..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86XbiPa0IzQ Before Exhaust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcAj1ffamM8 After Exhaust

What's to help? Its supposed to sound like that. In real life, i.e. not revving the engine out of gear (don't do that), you'll be decellerating in gear and you'll hear a different sound (heck, you're hearing it already) instead, sort of a gurgling and maybe a small pop or two. A lot of people love that sound. Do you have headers? The effect is more obvious with a header/y-pipe setup.

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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 08:13 PM
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I know that sometimes people think I'm jiving them when I say the volume decreases and the tone gets mellower during the first week (as the internal metal surfaces go from hard/reflective to soft/absorbtive as they carbon up), but here's a testimonial. Its surprising how much the sound changes.

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Originally Posted by Rods03Max619
Yeah today it sounded more quieter and getting quieter I think since it didn't have no carbon build up like people said its going to be loud cause the first day I was Like F##k, cause I had to hit the freeway to go home!! But on the freeway its a blast like Damn!!
Old Aug 23, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MizzMaxine
any more units available and in stock right now? what is wide-band?:S

Absolutely MizzMaxine, I have a few in stock and ready to ship. We take orders, and are glad to answer questions, by phone. Call 800.759.9920, open 9-5 MST, M-F.

A wide band O2 sensor is used to monitor the exhaust gasses on a real time basis for tuning purposes. Some might only use the sensor while actually tuning an aftermarket fuel management system, others might have leave the sensor installed all the time, hooked up to a digital monitoring system.

Also, 2000 Maximas with Federal emissions (the only 5th generation year that had Fed-spec emissions) need this port for their 3rd O2 sensor.

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I won't be having an exhaust clip or dyno anytime soon as I found out today I have a busted flex section and 2 cracks in my headers... jee thanks last years blizzard... anyways mizzmaxine, if you're close to MD I wouldn't mind trading you my 3" with no wideband bung for your if you get it... I probebly will just have mines sit for a few... lemme know
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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Will ceramic coating headers add some crack protection?

Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
I won't be having an exhaust clip or dyno anytime soon as I found out today I have a busted flex section and 2 cracks in my headers... jee thanks last years blizzard... anyways mizzmaxine, if you're close to MD I wouldn't mind trading you my 3" with no wideband bung for your if you get it... I probebly will just have mines sit for a few... lemme know
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Will ceramic coating headers add some crack protection?
Yes sir...
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Will ceramic coating headers add some crack protection?
yes it will from reading this

" For the ultimate in corrosion resistance and thermal protection, ceramic coatings are the way to go. The rugged shell is actually baked onto the performance exhaust headers in a red-hot oven. Once cured, the ceramic coating can hold up against the most brutal heat and block against the most insidious rust. Many manufacturers produce their own unique blends of ceramic coatings with either shiny or matte finishes. This type of coating is ideal for serious street performance, heavy-duty towing, and racing uses"

http://www.autoanything.com/exhausts...a30a171a2.aspx
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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oh i didnt know he wanted the whole wikipedia explanation on ceramic coating or a yes or no, thanks for the follow up, even though just saying "it can withstand more heat" is enough to explain
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i guess i should update my mod list









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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
i guess i should update my mod list









Oh Damn that looks very familar, I know you are hella happy like the wait is over and you know you got it and can install it whenever you want!!
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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Will ceramic coating headers add some crack protection?
That's not gonna stop the OBX flex sections from failing....From the one I installed on a friend's there was a 1"-2" gap between the Header ypipe and the Cat.....This extra tensional forces will weaken the flex section and cause it will fail prematurely.....My Cattman's bolted straight up and flush throughout the entire system......Ceramic helps with keeping your heat in your exhaust and minimizing that in the engine bay....It also slow down rusting but doesn't eliminate it....most luster finishes have to be maintained whereas most dull/satin finishes are maintainance free....This is no surprise too me since I've held this OBX is my hands and installed a set on a 2002 Maxima.....I wasn't impressed and still not!
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Oh Damn that looks very familar, I know you are hella happy like the wait is over and you know you got it and can install it whenever you want!!
Is it Xmas time???????
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
i guess i should update my mod list
To include 3 headers leaks.
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Originally Posted by CMax03
That's not gonna stop the OBX flex sections from failing....From the one I installed on a friend's there was a 1"-2" gap between the Header ypipe and the Cat.....This extra tensional forces will weaken the flex section and cause it will fail prematurely.....My Cattman's bolted straight up and flush throughout the entire system......Ceramic helps with keeping your heat in your exhaust and minimizing that in the engine bay....It also slow down rusting but doesn't eliminate it....most luster finishes have to be maintained whereas most dull/satin finishes are maintainance free....This is no surprise too me since I've held this OBX is my hands and installed a set on a 2002 Maxima.....I wasn't impressed and still not!
understood... i didnt really pay for it for the material... i was moreso sold on the power gains vs twice the price for the same gains, now i can do a 3" Y with even more gains for the same price as cattmans, but thats another story
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To include 3 headers leaks.
now ill just do a 3" Y
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now ill just do a 3" Y
Perfect time.
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
understood... i didnt really pay for it for the material... i was moreso sold on the power gains vs twice the price for the same gains, now i can do a 3" Y with even more gains for the same price as cattmans, but thats another story


now ill just do a 3" Y
What a plan man! Ya I know alot of people that buy used tires for 1/4 the cost of new tires but they always seem to be buying 3 times as many tires, as my 4 new, not to mention all the other things that happen such as towing fees and mount and balance, broken lugs, etc....but yeah you sound like you're all on over it dude!
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thanks, will keep the forum posted, most of this will be done after vacation though
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Originally Posted by McSteve
Will ceramic coating headers add some crack protection?
No. Cracking is typically the result of forcing components (while building the headers) or parts (when installing the headers) to fit when they actually don't. When the part is fabricated from substandard tubing that is too thin, this even more likely to occur (and less stress is required for it to happen). Heat may accellerate the failure, but it is not the cause unless we're talking about extreme racing situations when the entire manifold is glowing red and the life expectancy of headers is 2-3 races.

Using a prybar may work to get the part on the car, but doing so creates stresses within the part that will eventually be relieved by cracking. If a prybar is necessary to forcibly install a set of Chinese headers, then just stop the installation and return the parts for a refund.

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One more thing. No offense to anyone, and I do not mean to start a squabble, but in addition to vastly superior fitment and much greater longevity, there are no commercially available header/y-pipe systems that equal the performance of a Cattman set.

And the same can be said of every exhaust part we make...

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I would not assume that a 3" tail section on a y-pipe will make more power. That is a good place (going into the cat) to maintain strong exhaust velocity.
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Have anybody notice the change of sound level after they put the straight pipe. Every time I cruise it is kind of quieter than the stock cat. Weird I know. But it just a thing that I noticed after I installed straight pipe.
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No. Cracking is typically the result of forcing components (while building the headers) or parts (when installing the headers) to fit when they actually don't. When the part is fabricated from substandard tubing that is too thin, this even more likely to occur (and less stress is required for it to happen). Heat may accellerate the failure, but it is not the cause unless we're talking about extreme racing situations when the entire manifold is glowing red and the life expectancy of headers is 2-3 races.

Using a prybar may work to get the part on the car, but doing so creates stresses within the part that will eventually be relieved by cracking. If a prybar is necessary to forcibly install a set of Chinese headers, then just stop the installation and return the parts for a refund.

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If it doesn't fit, don't force it!

Originally Posted by Cattman
One more thing. No offense to anyone, and I do not mean to start a squabble, but in addition to vastly superior fitment and much greater longevity, there are no commercially available header/y-pipe systems that equal the performance of a Cattman set.

And the same can be said of every exhaust part we make...

Brian
Your equivalent in quailty IMO is B&B and his pricing is thru the stratosphere....catbacks usually cost $1300-$2500 depending on the car

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I would not assume that a 3" tail section on a y-pipe will make more power. That is a good place (going into the cat) to maintain strong exhaust velocity.
I like mine....as is......



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