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Old Dec 7, 2001 | 09:39 PM
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Track Night Again With 2k2 Gle

Tonight I did only 2 runs, then it started to rain.
I just got back home, its now 12:34 AM, im going to transfer the video into my video capture card and post the video real soon.
It really sucked, it rained all night afterwards, I lost both my runs, the cars I raced were a Lexus GS430, Ford Mustang Saleen, (I get the worst luck when I line up )
I thought it was a GS400 but I took a closer look and it was the GS430! very nice car!! he had 4.3 on the engine it was nice.
The GS430 is quick! He got me by a car length, he did a 14.4 I think.
The saleen I saw do 12.9 since I was so far back

best time of the night ----->14.698 @ 94.47 mph 60' 2.19
----->14.929 @ 92.80 mph 60' 2.25
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video of 2k2 GLE vs. 2k2 GS430 soon.!

on the way home I raced a 00 TL with no exhaust I think (LOUD AS HELL, LOUD VERY LOUD and an intake since you see it hanging down from the front of the car! and it was lowered, from a 70 mph roll, we are side by side until 120 im SLOWLY SLOWLY pulling away ( I had 3 people in my car, but we couldnt get the video cam on time, everybody was laid out, he gave me a thumbs up and took the exit.
Old Dec 7, 2001 | 09:44 PM
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Great times! I would have never thought the auto 2k2 would run these times. I had expected "at least" low 15's.
Old Dec 7, 2001 | 09:50 PM
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Awesome!! 14.6 for a auto max!!! This is incredible! If you compare that time to Car and driver's review of the 3.5 SE auto altima, it is a lot faster! The Altima did a 15.3 . Even Motor trend's test of the 5spd altima is slower then your times! MT got 14.7 in the 1/4 mile with the 5spd Alty. Congrats on one fast max.
Old Dec 7, 2001 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by emax95
Awesome!! 14.6 for a auto max!!! This is incredible! If you compare that time to Car and driver's review of the 3.5 SE auto altima, it is a lot faster! The Altima did a 15.3 . Even Motor trend's test of the 5spd altima is slower then your times! MT got 14.7 in the 1/4 mile with the 5spd Alty. Congrats on one fast max.
the 5-spd altima down here got 14.5 with lots of wheelspin, but i didnt get it on video!

I got alot of BS on the video, it should be up soon.
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 06:09 AM
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great times, sounds like another great night at the track--one day when i don't have to work i'd like to get mine out there--it just seems like something comes up everytime i want to go--do you think 14.5s is possible????
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 07:10 AM
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more good times... nice job
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 07:51 AM
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nice runs! btw, what was ur 60' time?
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by mechanic
nice runs! btw, what was ur 60' time?
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Old Dec 8, 2001 | 08:16 AM
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dang... skimmed right through his post. thats a damn good time
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 08:19 AM
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what i find interesting is.. with the same 60ft .. he is getting the same trap speeds as Steve.. which means steve should be about 2 mph higher.. so i am thinking the 6spd is capable of a 2.0 60ft with a experienced drag racer.. which would put it at 14.1 @ 96 mph ..
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
what i find interesting is.. with the same 60ft .. he is getting the same trap speeds as Steve.. which means steve should be about 2 mph higher.. so i am thinking the 6spd is capable of a 2.0 60ft with a experienced drag racer.. which would put it at 14.1 @ 96 mph ..
yup i noticed the same thing. guess he needs to make use of the entire powerband to get better times. all a matter of time but seriously a 14.0-14.1 for a stock max... now THATS something! maybe even 13s who knows...
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 08:27 AM
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yup i noticed the same thing. guess he needs to make use of the entire powerband to get better times. all a matter of time but seriously a 14.0-14.1 for a stock max... now THATS something! maybe even 13s who knows...
like i said before.. you got got rice? aka phuong to run that baby.. and he will kick 13's out of it no problem..
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 08:31 AM
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Damn an auto Maxima in the mid 14's!!! Did you torque brake and/or manually shift?
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 09:17 AM
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what i find interesting is.. with the same 60ft .. he is getting the same trap speeds as Steve.. which means steve should be about 2 mph higher.. so i am thinking the 6spd is capable of a 2.0 60ft with a experienced drag racer.. which would put it at 14.1 @ 96 mph ..
With an intake it might even bring him to 14.0 flat! With the extra 7HP/7TQ it might do it!
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 12:29 PM
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I don't think the 2k2 needs to manually shift. The max torque/horsepower comes before redline. Kinda like the 4th gens that didn't need to manually shift to get good 1/4 times.
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by EZ
I don't think the 2k2 needs to manually shift. The max torque/horsepower comes before redline. Kinda like the 4th gens that didn't need to manually shift to get good 1/4 times.
If the auto maxima doesn't shift at redline it still needs to be shifted manually to make the most out of the powerband since the horsepower peak is still only about 600 rpm away from the redline. In general with powerband shapes typical of today's production car motors and the ratio spacing of today's 4-speed auto family cars you can pretty much expect the need to shift at redline if the difference is less than 15% between power peak rpm and redline.

Those are awesome times by the way and great 60 foots for a FWD family sedan on radials. I wonder what a lighter 2002 GXE auto would do. Do me a big favor and drop your front tire pressures to 26 psi on the front and bump the rears to 46 psi. I guarantee you 0.1-0.2 second improvement along with your breaking in of the motor, and please post the results and if my suggestions worked!

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read high performance pontiac 10/1997: dad's 100% stock supercharged bonneville SLE ran 14.525@94.06mph on 2.09 60 foot 100% stock, 93 octane full tank, and stock Eagle GAs...gotta love boosted power. 115,000 miles, strong as heck, burns only 1/2 quart every 3k mi.
Old Dec 8, 2001 | 03:49 PM
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Dizzzammmm!?!?!?!? Auto GLEs hitting 14.6s@94mph!!! Wow!!! I'm gonna watch all this very closely to see how much difference there really is between the 6 speed and auto. Now that the Maxima has some V8 style torque, the automatic isn't such a slug. I'd almost consider a GLE/I30 for my crusier and modify it (praying the Y-pipe works), click off mid to low 14s and then eventually get my 5.0 for the real drag car. I guess I'll have to wait and see how the 2k2 auto performs in warmer weather. I'm assuming these runs are in cooler air in the northeast?

What track is this?


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Old Dec 8, 2001 | 11:55 PM
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wow, thats very impressive, and doesn't sound too good to me. oh well, i guess i'll just have pick on the pre 2002's and pretend I never saw a 2002 maxima next to me. jk congratulations!

how's the top end on the new 2002's?
Old Dec 9, 2001 | 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by !GTP!
wow, thats very impressive, and doesn't sound too good to me. oh well, i guess i'll just have pick on the pre 2002's and pretend I never saw a 2002 maxima next to me. jk congratulations!

how's the top end on the new 2002's?
It appears the topend of the auto Max is nearly as good as the manual Max now. Autos are now hitting 94mph trap speeds stock when just last year the 222hp 3.0 auto could only hit 88-89mph on a good day. This just goes to show you that healthy torque goes a long way. You should know this since you drive a torque monster 3.8SC. It looks like the new 2k2 Maxima, regardless of tranny, has a slight edge on most stock GTPs. However rest assured, mod for mod, the Max still has no chance against a GTP.


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Old Dec 9, 2001 | 12:09 AM
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02' Max is one bad mo' fo. I would definitely take lining up with one seriously (even modded) - esp if it was 6-sp (speaking of which, is there any badging or anything that tells you if a max is stick?).
Old Dec 9, 2001 | 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by Tweekt_GTP
02' Max is one bad mo' fo. I would definitely take lining up with one seriously (even modded) - esp if it was 6-sp (speaking of which, is there any badging or anything that tells you if a max is stick?).
Nope, you will know when it chirp's 3rd though .
Old Dec 9, 2001 | 01:03 AM
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Where is the video you promised us?
Old Dec 9, 2001 | 02:17 AM
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Where is the video you promised us?
Old Dec 9, 2001 | 10:37 AM
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I have to get a video capture card before I can post the video, Im thinking about picking one up this week.

Hang Tight.
Old Dec 9, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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I have to get a video capture card before I can post the video, Im thinking about picking one up this week.

Hang Tight.

Cool, thx.
Old Dec 10, 2001 | 07:42 AM
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Couple questions. Why does your sig say SE when your racing a GLE?

What track are you racing at in Florida and what were the conditions (temp, humidity, etc). We can also safely assume your at sea level since your in FLorida. I'd just like to know this so that I can determine if getting an auto 2K2 Max would not be a step down from what I've got right now (96 SE, intake/y-pipe/B-pipe/UDP 14.7s@95). I'm just worried if a get a 2k2 auto, it will run low 15s here Kansas City simply because we aren't at sea level and our track close in early November (ie no cold weather racing).

You need to get a intake, Y-pipe (if they ever make it), lighter 17s and see what happens I'd bet those heavy stock 17s are holding you back a good .2 of a second.


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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
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Couple questions. Why does your sig say SE when your racing a GLE?

What track are you racing at in Florida and what were the conditions (temp, humidity, etc). We can also safely assume your at sea level since your in FLorida. I'd just like to know this so that I can determine if getting an auto 2K2 Max would not be a step down from what I've got right now (96 SE, intake/y-pipe/B-pipe/UDP 14.7s@95). I'm just worried if a get a 2k2 auto, it will run low 15s here Kansas City simply because we aren't at sea level and our track close in early November (ie no cold weather racing).

You need to get a intake, Y-pipe (if they ever make it), lighter 17s and see what happens I'd bet those heavy stock 17s are holding you back a good .2 of a second.


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He's in Florida? Very surprising, it's been unseasonably warm even for here the last few weeks. It's supposed to go up to 82 today and I'm in Northern Florida. Hasn't differed from that in quite a while. Now I really want to see video.
Old Dec 10, 2001 | 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by Dave B
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Couple questions. Why does your sig say SE when your racing a GLE?

What track are you racing at in Florida and what were the conditions (temp, humidity, etc). We can also safely assume your at sea level since your in FLorida. I'd just like to know this so that I can determine if getting an auto 2K2 Max would not be a step down from what I've got right now (96 SE, intake/y-pipe/B-pipe/UDP 14.7s@95). I'm just worried if a get a 2k2 auto, it will run low 15s here Kansas City simply because we aren't at sea level and our track close in early November (ie no cold weather racing).

You need to get a intake, Y-pipe (if they ever make it), lighter 17s and see what happens I'd bet those heavy stock 17s are holding you back a good .2 of a second.
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Hello Dave,

Well , as for "02maximaSE", I originally was getting a 2k2 SE 6-spd, but couldnt wait, I needed a car ASAP, so I picked up a GLE, and since I already started posting at the .org, It was a hassle to delete the name and make "02MaximaGLE", I tried to make a new one but I guess you can have only 1 handle. My uncle has the 2k2 SE 6-spd that I ordered. But I love automagics so I kept mine and sometimes go street racing with the 6-spd. I know this is going to stir up many questions since you guys know I have access to both a 2k2 auto and manual. and YES< the 6spd feels faster, but I cant shift worth crap so the automagic is my style

I race at Bradenton Motorsports Park, www.bradentonmotorsports.com
Ambient tempreture 66 degrees.
Its southern Florida so the altitude is favorable. its about 4 hrs form keywest. (the southernmost tip). Im currently looking for lighter stylish 17's, I have a set of Nitto 555R's that Im dying to mount. I know there's a popcharger for 2k2's but im looking for Y pipes also.
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After hearing this, I'm not that surprised by the time... pretty sure this is the same track madmax2k ran his great time on (14.3). It's probably a fast track.
Old Dec 10, 2001 | 09:40 AM
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Thanks for the reply. You need to take your uncles 6 speed out and see what it can do.

I believe this is the same track that MadMax runs at since he lives in Tampa. Maybe this is a fairly quick track, though. This is also the same track that a bonestock GT-S (ww.newcelica.org) ran a 14.5@97mph. It appears that the track does seem to hook up hard. Regardless if it's a good track or not, 14.6s are mighty impressive. Keep us posted with the mods and track times. If you can hit low 14s with the basic mods, it means I could probably hit mid 14s here in Kansas City.

The reason I would consider 2k2 auto is because of the thick torque curve and excellect performance. Lots of torque makes driving an auto much more pleasing. The new manual tranies from Nissan feel like crap because the shifters are now cable linkage, not a direct rod linkage. They lack any direct feel.


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