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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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A new Catback Exhaust?

I have been in contact with Greg Childs from BRM exhausts. He is potentially interested in making an exhaust for us. His shop really makes quality products, as a lot of 240 owners can attest to. He is also a dedicated Nissan enthusiast, in fact he is the president of nicoclub.com . I was wondering whether we have enough people potentially interested and also whether one of our members would be interested in stopping by his shop in Florida to model their exhaust for them?

This is still somewhat tentatively but I just wanted to put a general feeler out there.



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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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2.5"? 3"?

i think their should be a decent response on here,.. for what its worth,.. the dual tip is desired by alot of members, and custommaxima ,.. is in the QA stage of development with theirs i think they are running a batch of 50-100 and selling them for ~380-400 shipped...

I think price/soundclip will go a long way in terms of potential
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I'd be interested in a QUIET 3" exhaust.
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I'd be interested in a QUIET 3" exhaust.
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Out of curiosity, is that the exact resonator and muffler he's planning on using if this goes through?
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I'd be interested in a QUIET 3" exhaust.
Good luck finding one.
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That cat-back (assuming it's for a 240) is sick looking.

If that same set-up was fabricated for the Maxima, and priced right, I'd say it would sell quite well...

...I had a similiar set-up (all Magnaflow) on my G20 and loved it.
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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that is some quality work there, that looks good.. thats the high flow cat that i want... tell him to join teh forums... anyways, my only question is what size body exhaust is that??? piping looks like a 3"
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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Have the same muffler on mine, it looks/sounds good!
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Have the same muffler on mine, it looks/sounds good!
that does look good... care to give us an exhaust video??? i think this makes or breaks peoples interest... oh what mods btw?
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
I'd be interested in a QUIET 3" exhaust.
Considering my 3" has 38" worth of resonator covering the entire area from the Y-pipe to the first B-pipe bend, and what looks like the biggest 3" muffler cattman could fit on the rear section and it still isn't QUIET... good luck with that.

Unless you want louvered resonators and chambered muffler... and in that case, it just doesn't seem worth it dumping your gains from 3" piping on a non-straight through design.
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I would be interested in this setup. Btw what muffler is that exactly
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by McSteve
and also whether one of our members would be interested in stopping by his shop in Florida to model their exhaust for them?
Where in florida is he?

I can have me (i30) and another 5th genner (maxima) go so he can design one for our longer bumper also if he's willing too.
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i'm gonna be pissed if this group deal goes through and its 3inch at a resonable price because i just bought the ebay exhaust.. but i might be interested for the future
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make it a 3" and im in
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The exhaust pictures is for a 240sx. It looks like 3" and it is all mandrel bent, which is a huge advantage over custommaxima. For the 240s he offers both 2.5" and 3" and the 240 dual tip catback is 475 shipped which I think is really reasonable. I'll send him the link to this thread.

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He said his shop is in Miami

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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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The exhaust pictures is for a 240sx. It looks like 3" and it is all mandrel bent, which is a huge advantage over custommaxima. For the 240s he offers both 2.5" and 3" and the 240 dual tip catback is 475 shipped which I think is really reasonable. I'll send him the link to this thread.

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He said his shop is in Miami
Thats close enough to me
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Considering my 3" has 38" worth of resonator covering the entire area from the Y-pipe to the first B-pipe bend, and what looks like the biggest 3" muffler cattman could fit on the rear section and it still isn't QUIET... good luck with that.

Unless you want louvered resonators and chambered muffler... and in that case, it just doesn't seem worth it dumping your gains from 3" piping on a non-straight through design.
No reason a 3" exhaust can't be quiet. People are getting something like 18 hp gains with the Cattman 3" exhaust, right? I'll trade 2-3 hp for a turbo style muffler that will quiet it down significantly. I honestly didn't notice any change in power when I went from a Magnaflow (straight thru design) to a Vortec turbo muffler on my Accord (which had a header) but the difference in sound was nothing short of amazing. I still had a deep (but not loud) tone at idle, at full throttle my AEM cold air intake was louder and at freeway speeds the drone was completely gone. No exhaust noise detectable at all on the freeway.
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
No reason a 3" exhaust can't be quiet. People are getting something like 18 hp gains with the Cattman 3" exhaust, right? I'll trade 2-3 hp for a turbo style muffler that will quiet it down significantly. I honestly didn't notice any change in power when I went from a Magnaflow (straight thru design) to a Vortec turbo muffler on my Accord (which had a header) but the difference in sound was nothing short of amazing. I still had a deep (but not loud) tone at idle, at full throttle my AEM cold air intake was louder and at freeway speeds the drone was completely gone. No exhaust noise detectable at all on the freeway.
Well I thought you were talking about a 3" as in getting FULL gains from the 3" (ie straight through muffling). I'm not one to spend a bunch of money on power gains, then drop some of those gains, but I can see what you are saying. Mine is quiet on the highway and sounds beautiful at WOT, so I'm perfectly happy with it, but not silent like you're looking for.

In terms of "feeling a difference," I wouldn't trust your butt dyno any more than mine or anybody else's, which is VERY little. There are far too many factors for a butt dyno to be accurate in any situation. Can you be sure it's only a 2-3 hp loss?
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I calibrated my butt dyno 2 weeks ago so it's in spec...



















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Originally Posted by sparks03max

In terms of "feeling a difference," I wouldn't trust your butt dyno any more than mine or anybody else's, which is VERY little. There are far too many factors for a butt dyno to be accurate in any situation. Can you be sure it's only a 2-3 hp loss?
Considering my car was a lot quieter, it should have felt slower with a butt dyno but it didn't. Just odd hearing the intake noise instead of the exhaust all of a sudden.

A good turbo muffler still flows very well. Everyone is so hooked on straight-thru designs now they forget how good turbo mufflers can flow. I was running a pair of Sonic Turbo mufflers on my Chevelle and not only was it quicker (about 1 mph gain in the quartermile, .1 drop in ET) than the Thrush mufflers (straight-thru) but a lot quieter...well at least as quiet as you can get with dumps at the rear axle. However, V8 drone at freeway speeds sounds a lot better than V6 drone.
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemner
make it a 3" and im in
i was kinda waiting for your post funny dude... but anyways, im not asking for a "quiet" 3" exhaust, i believe quiet is relative here... aslong as its not obnoxiously loud but has a good tone i dont mind... not expecting it to sound like a cattman 2.5 or suttn like that.... id love to hear a sound clip from rogeezy
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
Considering my car was a lot quieter, it should have felt slower with a butt dyno but it didn't. Just odd hearing the intake noise instead of the exhaust all of a sudden.

A good turbo muffler still flows very well. Everyone is so hooked on straight-thru designs now they forget how good turbo mufflers can flow. I was running a pair of Sonic Turbo mufflers on my Chevelle and not only was it quicker (about 1 mph gain in the quartermile, .1 drop in ET) than the Thrush mufflers (straight-thru) but a lot quieter...well at least as quiet as you can get with dumps at the rear axle. However, V8 drone at freeway speeds sounds a lot better than V6 drone.
Not to nitpick, but every thrush muffler I've seen (including 2 in my garage) are a louvered design. Were those also? The louvered designs can play havoc on exhaust velocity because of all the turbulence. Turbo mufflers are definitely better than that, but you have to know there are definitely losses when turning flow by 180 degrees a couple of times.
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That looks like good work on that exhaust and for 500 bucks that would be a steal
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Not to nitpick, but every thrush muffler I've seen (including 2 in my garage) are a louvered design. Were those also? The louvered designs can play havoc on exhaust velocity because of all the turbulence. Turbo mufflers are definitely better than that, but you have to know there are definitely losses when turning flow by 180 degrees a couple of times.
The original Thrush header muffler was not a louvered design. Straight pipe with holes in it.

Fully aware I would lose some power vs a straight-thru exhaust but I drive 20-25k miles a year and a lot of that is freeway. Just can't deal with having a loud car with those kinds of miles.

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Sound clip of said exhaust. With a 16" res and OBX V2s, mind you. If you're running stock manifolds, it'll be a lot deeper and quieter. Probably closer to the Greddy EVOII.
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Sound clip of said exhaust. With a 16" res and OBX V2s, mind you. If you're running stock manifolds, it'll be a lot deeper and quieter. Probably closer to the Greddy EVOII.
sounds awsome.. is that the magnaflow muffler? 2.5" ? ,.. cat or no cat>?
Old Apr 22, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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sounds awsome.. is that the magnaflow muffler? 2.5" ? ,.. cat or no cat>?
That's the same one. Only difference is mine doesn't have Magnaflow laser-etched into it.

I've got 2.5" piping, and I still have my stock cat in place.
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So Greg wrote back:

Hey Stephan - Shouldn't be a problem.

I'd give the test vehicle owner a system at cost.


If anyone wants to take a shot at it, have them touch base with me via email.


Thanks!


His email is greg@nicoclub.com




Someone jump on it and once we get someone to guinea pig this we'll have another great product for the maxima!!
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Sound clip of said exhaust. With a 16" res and OBX V2s, mind you. If you're running stock manifolds, it'll be a lot deeper and quieter. Probably closer to the Greddy EVOII.
The said exhaust?????????? To clarify,.... Do you mean the 2.5" BRM exhaust? Or just the Magnaflow muffler used on the 2.5" 240 exhaust system @ post#1?

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Oh crap... another 3" exhaust promise lls... I wish this one falls through... I must say I am not completely sold on the muffler to be honest but that's why i'd spend less right.... good luck
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The said exhaust?????????? To clarify,.... Do you mean the 2.5" BRM exhaust? Or just the Magnaflow muffler used on the 2.5" 240 exhaust system @ post#1?
Sorry. I guess my post was pretty vague.

That muffler is the same one used on BRM's 240 system.
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IN for 3" SS. If comparable to the Spec-V prices, I'm so down.
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whoever comes with a 3" dual tipped exhaust first I am buying
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Originally Posted by DrVenkman
whoever comes with a 3" dual tipped exhaust first I am buying
Sorry for said thread jack, but Cattman has a dual tip 3" . Just FYI
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Sorry for said thread jack, but Cattman has a dual tip 3" . Just FYI
Brian is a great person who makes great products,.. trust me I have his headers,... but if were talking a near 180% price difference,.. people are going to be alot more willing to buy,... just FYI



my ? to greg,.. how many is he willing to produce? ,.. I think he would have no problem selling ~30 units in only a few months,..
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Originally Posted by DrVenkman
whoever comes with a 3" dual tipped exhaust first I am buying
Originally Posted by mist max2000
Brian is a great person who makes great products,.. trust me I have his headers,... but if were talking a near 180% price difference,.. people are going to be alot more willing to buy,... just FYI
I was answering his question. Just FYI
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Sorry for said thread jack, but Cattman has a dual tip 3" . Just FYI
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The video from SLCPunk267 sounds really good!

This thread is getting good and I might be interested if the product comes to full fruition.
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Considering my 3" has 38" worth of resonator covering the entire area from the Y-pipe to the first B-pipe bend, and what looks like the biggest 3" muffler cattman could fit on the rear section and it still isn't QUIET... good luck with that.

Unless you want louvered resonators and chambered muffler... and in that case, it just doesn't seem worth it dumping your gains from 3" piping on a non-straight through design.
Where did you find the 38" resonator?

Is is much quieter than Cattman's 19"?



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