Had my lights for a couple of months now and I'm finally getting around to installing them...I have 2 questions...AND I'VE ALREADY DONE A SEARCH!!!!

1) I dont see any instructions on how to add the RELAYS in either Dixit's or IceY2K1's write-ups so can somebody tell me where I can find the instructions on how to hook up the RELAYS?

2) Both instructions are kinda unclear as to whether I need to splice into the wires that are already on the new 2k2 headlights (namely the green/white park-light wires!) Can someone help me please...Holla at the kid ASAP!!!! Thanx.

Deac

 

no relay needed on the lows.. and just use

battery (12V+) to the coil of the relay and the switching side. then ground the highs right near the lights themselves (yeah, run power on top and in front of the radiator with loom). Now, run the 12v+ off the relay switch to each of the highs (yeah, infront, near top of the radiator, with loom). Use the negative trigger off the existing wire for the highs to now kick the relay on (as it will already have constant 12V from the battery). Theres a nice spot for the relay behind the driver side headlight.

As I recall there is no splicing of more than 2 wires.. every wire has a place on the new assembly. It may look tricky because 1 wire is on the plug with the HIDs. You can plainly see which wires go to the ballast. and they do share the ground. Unless you are doing a side marker rewire at the same time, and I didnt do that so I cant help there.

 

I used the same realy setup that Tim outlined and it worked perfectly. The only strange thing was that the high-beam switched ground from the passenger harness acted strange and did not always allow the passenger relay to turn off (I used two relays). So, I just used a tap on the driver side switched high beam ground and ran it to both high beam relays....

 

you have HID's?

 

yes, I do . Got them after I was rear ended and pushed into another car.... Accident wasn't my fault, so the other dudes insurance paid

 

rice boy

 

don't hate

 

I cant remember what it is, but there is something else tied to the ground of the passenger side highs. Even if you use two relays, use the ground on the driver side to trigger the relay. again, I cant remember what else is tied there, but I do know that the light on the dash is triggered by the passenger side and if you bring power to that circuit, it will make your high beam light stay on. Don't ask me how I know this anyway, I'm using a one very beefy relay high quality nissan relay for both highs. So, I'm running power over to the other side with loom. Seemed the easiest thing at the time.

 

one beefy relay should be more than enough... probably would have been a little cleaner wiring-wise if I used only one, but it's all good

 

Has anyone posted any simple write-ups on how to add the relays...Should I use Dixit's Alarm-fix write-up? That is the only write-up I've seen that has anything to do the relays. My logs are stil hnging out now!!! HELP?!?!


Deac

 

1) I dont see any instructions on how to add the RELAYS in either Dixit's or IceY2K1's write-ups so can somebody tell me where I can find the instructions on how to hook up the RELAYS?

2) Both instructions are kinda unclear as to whether I need to splice into the wires that are already on the new 2k2 headlights (namely the green/white park-light wires!) Can someone help me please...Holla at the kid ASAP!!!! Thanx.

Deac [/B][/QUOTE]

Need help on another part of the install too! There is a part on Dixit's write-up where it seems to ask you at 2 different points in the write=up to splice 2 different wires into the same wire of theH4 harness...Here: "Now the RED wire which is the Xenon 12V wire, should be spliced to the 12Volt wire (PINK/Blue or ORANGE/Black depending on which side) of the Nissan Harness. Also that needs to be spliced to this wire is ONE of the wires from the High Beam Bulb. Then you are done for this connector. Wooohooo!!! and Here:... . "Now this is the LAST plug left on the 2K2 lights, the HighBeam plug. Now once again there is no Colors here, so just use whichever one you want, as long as you connect it to the CORRECT corresponding wire then you will have no problems. Now unused wire from the HighBeam Plug should be spliced to either BLUE/White or GREEN/Black on the Nissan Harness. The other wire should already be spliced with the XENON wire which was hooked upto the PINK/Blue or ORANGE/Black wire on the Nissan Harness" ....

Just to make sure I'm not crazy and that I'm doing it right, for those of you who did the 2k2 headlight install, at one point, did you have to splice 2 wires into the same wire of the H4 harness? I'm stuck at this point!!

Deac

 

For the xenons, just use the +12V from the H4 harness and the ground from the car chassis. Then if you use relays for the high-beams, just use the H4 harness high beam switched ground as the relay input. Use +12V on the other end of the relay input and also tie that to the high-beam plug wire. For the other relay inputs, tie the car chassis to one end and then tie the last relay pin to the other high-beam plug wire.

 

http://www.5thgenmaximas.com/howto/2k2hid/

Whole bunch of pictures of the install. Not sure if you can see the color codes of the wires, but that worked for me, its Dixits write up I used.

 

Dude you need to make a detailed write-up of how to add the relays to the headlight set-up...somebody has to anyway...

Deac

 

There is no need for the relays at all!

Why waste your money. The HID carry only 35watts, and you rarely need your HIGHBEAMS anyways and when you do, you don't keep them on long enough at 65watts, so still 65+35 isn't that much on those wires.

 

I dont think thats a very persuasive arguement... some people do leave the highs on for long periods of time. I *think* the wires will in fact take the load.. but I plan to have my car more than 12 months and opted for the safer route, a relay.

 

Well I have had 4 years of Electronics training and I have a degree in Electronics and Computer Engineering. So I think I know what the car will handle. I have ran my highs on for more than 30 min with the HIDs, and the wires don't even get warm.

 

The max wattage that was running through the wires was 60W when using the stock headlamps. Now, thats not to say that the wires won't be able to handle a combined 95W of power. In fact, I think the headlamp fuse for the H4 plug is 15A. But, the previous system was designed for 60W with some extra room for safety's sake. Using a separate relay/fuse setup will ensure long-term durability and clean switching. Plus, the power supplied to the HID ballast will be clean and unaffected when using the high-beams.

 

Here's a link.
http://maxima.cardomain.com/member_p...=158868&page=4

 

where are the writeups located?

 

here is another one:

http://www.geocities.com/dsuthar/2k2install.html

 

School? I went for an EE... but you dont see me calling BS on you.. whatever.. I could care less if you fry your harness. But don't even come crying to me about it.

 

I agree. It's only a small chance, but for $10 why not? Only time will tell.

By the way Russ, your not the only CE/EE around this board. If you want to discuss EE principles and such, be my guest.

 

I'm not saying you will fry your harness without relays. I know some of you guys are running that way just fine. I tend to drive up in the mountains and could have my highs on for 2 hours or more. Also, you dont want to loose your harness up there (at highway speeds). So I opted to the conservative route. it's probably not worth alot of peoples trouble, but it was for me.

I'll give Russ some credit. He does know more about his Maxima than I. *maybe* he knows more about electricity... not sure about that, but I'll concede that I'm totally obsessed with doing it the safest way. I just dont think that whats good for Russ is just fine for all. Not that he's wrong, but he can't speak for everyone's car and their driving habits.

 

Yes, this thread is 8yrs old...but why create a new one

Anyways, is there any definitive answer to the need, or lack thereof, for a relay when installing 35w HID/ballasts into a 2001?

I'm planning on getting a kit from the GD section, but not sure which vendor I should buy from. One says you need the relay, the other says you don't.

 

Relays do the heavy lifting, heavy switching I should say. Our car is full of them. They are easily replacable, relatively inexpensive and get my vote as the way to go. I installed my 2K2 headlight almost 8 years ago and with 200,000 + miles, the original relays are working fine.

 

well obviously the relay is the absolute safest choice, but is it necessary. Since a fairly reputable vendor on here claims they aren't needed, I would assume (but you know what they say about that) that it is still safe to forget the relay.