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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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So after the past years I have had several HID bulbs on my maxima and all of them looked white to me! My first set were 8,000k which was white with a tiny hint of blue. After those burnt up, i decided to try 10,000k because it wasn't blue enough and to my discovery it was the same exact white color with a TINY bit of blue! I came up with the conclusion that the eBay seller i got them from had mislabeled it. Finally after a whole year later i stopped by a local LED/lighting shop to try 8,000k, 10,000k, and even 12,000k and they all gave the same white color light! My car is a 5.5 gen and is using the stock xenon kit. All i did was swap the OEM bulbs for HID bulbs. I was wondering if anyone else has this problem. Is it because our OEM ballast isn't strong enough to get to bring the bulbs to such a high temperature? Or are my ballasts screwed up?
Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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Higher the temperature, lower the light output.

My headlights have a tiny bit of blue, IMO, and they're 4300K.

"Test" them out at night, probably be more apparent, the blue that is.
Old Jan 20, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Higher the temperature, lower the light output.

My headlights have a tiny bit of blue, IMO, and they're 4300K.

"Test" them out at night, probably be more apparent, the blue that is.
Yeah i tried them during night and in their garage with some fluorescent lighting. All the bulbs appear between 4,300k and 6,000k no matter what. I dont know what the problem is
Old Jan 20, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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You have clean, tastefully-done, nice looking car from what I can see in your sig pic and your pictures from the high beam DRL thread. Don't ruin it with ricey blue headlights.

Throw a set of 6000k bulbs in there and call it a day.
Old Jan 20, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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i used to like the way my 10k hids looked but got over it pretty fast so got 6k.. i know 10k works on our cars (our ballasts are strong enough)

but like others said, anything over 6k ruins light output and looks ricey
Old Jan 20, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Go to www.3Bspec.com, Who is also known as Operatic here on the .org. You can get D2R's custom made to the I guess the Police blue color your looking for. Usually 10K has the right amount of blue to it. By the way, any oem ballast is strong enough, they are the best ballast you can have, I even recommend them for a retro fit.
Old Jan 20, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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Why do you care more about what color the lights are than you do about light output? I really don't understand that. The whole purpose of HIDs is to put as much light on the road as possible and thats what 4300k bulbs do.
Old Jan 20, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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agreed
Old Jan 21, 2011 | 07:11 AM
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Why do you care more about what color the lights are than you do about light output? I really don't understand that. The whole purpose of HIDs is to put as much light on the road as possible and thats what 4300k bulbs do.
Its amazing how many people on the road don't get this. Just this morning I was followed on the freeway by a guy in a Tacoma with the ricey blue headlights blinding in my mirror. Felt like slamming on the brakes just to bust those freeking things!
Old Jan 21, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 03VQMAX
Go to www.3Bspec.com, Who is also known as Operatic here on the .org. You can get D2R's custom made to the I guess the Police blue color your looking for. Usually 10K has the right amount of blue to it. By the way, any oem ballast is strong enough, they are the best ballast you can have, I even recommend them for a retro fit.
Thanks for the info and site, I guess its my ballast problem thats causing them to look white. And to everyone else the only reason why i considered 10,000k was because my ballast were acting up and producing a pure white output with the 8,000k.
Old Jan 22, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by zzmmrx0xmzz
Yeah i tried them during night and in their garage with some fluorescent lighting. All the bulbs appear between 4,300k and 6,000k no matter what. I dont know what the problem is
Do they look the same from whatever height you're looking at (looking from the top-down vs. eye-level/straight-on etc.)?

I only ask b/c headlights (no matter the kind) that aren't properly aimed can give off a hardcore glare of color (which can appear brighter than the respective kelvin the bulb is in)

Lol @ 12k lights looking white! If that's the color you like then regardless of what others say...it's the color YOU like.

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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Higher the temperature, lower the light output.

My headlights have a tiny bit of blue, IMO, and they're 4300K.

"Test" them out at night, probably be more apparent, the blue that is.
I got 8000k got a little blue look way more than my stock ones but want the 5000k to get better visual...especially when it rains...
Old Jan 22, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Not tryna thread jack or anything but uh anyone run 55 watt hids in the factory low beam spot?
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 01:32 AM
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im not gonna lie. I want me some purple ones. I'm into the race scene pretty deep and when I see any color other than stock, i slow down to see what it is. usually some VIP cars.
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 05:51 AM
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im not gonna lie. I want me some purple ones. I'm into the rice scene pretty deep
Only one letter to fix!
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BoDenKai
im not gonna lie. I want me some purple ones. I'm into the race scene pretty deep and when I see any color other than stock, i slow down to see what it is. usually some VIP cars.
I really hope this was sarcastic.
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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Just a little info for anyone that didn't know:

The degrees K (Kelvin) that a bulb is labeled does NOT denote the actual temperature it burns at, or have anything to do with the amount of current needed to make the bulb operate. They're just labels to make it easier to denote one color bulb from the other.

HID kit bulbs are actually given their colors by using different elements. The way an HID bulb works is that the electricity is arced through a small tube filled with a gaseous form of an element. These ions are excited by the electrical current and glow, resulting in the color you see. For example, 3000k bulbs are actually filled with sodium ions. Sodium turns yellow when excited.

Xenon gas, when excited, burns that white-blue we get from the 4300k bulbs. Hence HID "xenon" bulbs. If you really wanted to, you could run a Neon HID kit, and have red HIDs.

So in other words, really, any decent ballast can run any bulb. They all take the same amount of voltage to ignite and run.
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by luvlexus101
Not tryna thread jack or anything but uh anyone run 55 watt hids in the factory low beam spot?
I have 55w ballasts with 6000k bulbs in my low beams.
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexus67
Do they look the same from whatever height you're looking at (looking from the top-down vs. eye-level/straight-on etc.)?

I only ask b/c headlights (no matter the kind) that aren't properly aimed can give off a hardcore glare of color (which can appear brighter than the respective kelvin the bulb is in)

Lol @ 12k lights looking white! If that's the color you like then regardless of what others say...it's the color YOU like.

Yeah, they look the same from every angle
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zzmmrx0xmzz
Yeah, they look the same from every angle
Yea seems like ur ballasts arnt working properly, im guessing its liek when you first turn on your lights its white for that split second then changes to the blue'r color...have you had your lights out of the car? any chance of pinched wires maybe a loss of ground somewhere would affect this??
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HID's also typically use lower wattage than their Halogen counterparts.

Xenon gas = HID
Halogen gas = non-HID



Neon gas = WTF MrBrett@red


Radon anyone?
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1991Maxima1991
Yea seems like ur ballasts arnt working properly, im guessing its liek when you first turn on your lights its white for that split second then changes to the blue'r color...have you had your lights out of the car? any chance of pinched wires maybe a loss of ground somewhere would affect this??
I have had my headlights out many times and i have baked them twice to repaint my housings. There maybe a change of pinched wires. What do you mean by loss of ground
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
HID's also typically use lower wattage than their Halogen counterparts.

Xenon gas = HID
Halogen gas = non-HID



Neon gas = WTF MrBrett@red


Radon anyone?
Neon gas is red when excited. Radon is (would be) yellow-green.
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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yellow-green.
Hmm, kinda like ahhh, Aaron Rodgers' car I'm sure.
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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xenon is far better then hid IMO..i have 02/03 hids on my 00 max se...and honeslty when i see hids on cars or just silly cars it makes me chuckle..

also side note--------> stock nissan oem factory xenons are 4300k or 4200k idk i cant remember which one but thats more then bright enough too see the road.

i actually dodged a deer on a busy road that was a long hilly stretch and was moderatley fast speed limits. I was going 45-55mph and a deer ran out in front of my car it was halfway accross my lane getting ready to go accross the yellow line..I swerved into oncoming lane immediatly my instincts kicked in and I dodged it by a hair. Idk how i did it or why i didnt hit the brakes but, one way or another I saved the day... Wow im a good driver kudos to myself and even more kudos to the maxima making it thru it. Afterwards I was so fking amped up I had to calm myself down..bc I had just 700 dollars worth of work done on my headgaskets and just got my max back after 3 days. I think maybe because I had my xenons on the deer backed down lol...or was intemidated. I cant remember if the deer crossed the road in front of my car or behind my car but im pretty sure it passed behind it because it happend in a split second...like the blink of an eye. But either way the maxi came out alright and so did I ;-)

and btw xenons IMO are more then bright enough to see..hids are just silly theyre almost to blue and ricer looking............xenon all the way! :-P

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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2kmaxseblack2k
xenon is far better then hid IMO..i have 02/03 hids on my 00 max se...and honeslty when i see hids on cars or just silly cars it makes me chuckle..

also side note--------> stock factory xenons are 4300k or 4200k idk i cant remember which one but thats more then bright enough.

and also more then bright enough to see..hids are just silly theyre almost to blue xenon all the way! :-P
Xenons...are...HIDs...
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Originally Posted by Mr. Brett
Xenons...are...HIDs...
+1 Exactly, "Adaptive Xenon High Intensity Discharge Headlights"
Old Jan 26, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Brett
Xenons...are...HIDs...
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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 2kmaxseblack2k
and btw xenons IMO are more then bright enough to see..hids are just silly theyre almost to blue and ricer looking............xenon all the way! :-P
Originally Posted by 2kmaxseblack2k
xenon is far better then hid IMO..i have 02/03 hids on my 00 max se...and honeslty when i see hids on cars or just silly cars it makes me chuckle..
Seems as if the marketing has got to you in a bad way. That's why I dislike when companies market 'blue' halogens as Xenon. Does it sound cool? Sure ... is it correct? No, absolutely not, and neither are you.

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Originally Posted by 2kmaxseblack2k

and btw xenons IMO are more then bright enough to see..hids are just silly theyre almost to blue and ricer looking............xenon all the way! :-P


It's all good. You can just replace the term 'hid' with 'hid-like blue-coated bulbs' in your earlier posts and it would hold true for the most part.

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Old Jan 27, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 2kmaxseblack2k
xenon is far better then hid IMO..i have 02/03 hids on my 00 max se...and honeslty when i see hids on cars or just silly cars it makes me chuckle..


and btw xenons IMO are more then bright enough to see..hids are just silly theyre almost to blue and ricer looking............xenon all the way! :-P


I mean, not to be a ****, but I'm not even sure where this idea that there was some kind of difference between "xenon" and HID lighting could have come from.
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I mean, not to be a ****, but I'm not even sure where this idea that there was some kind of difference between "xenon" and HID lighting could have come from.
You can blame (as Nmex suggested) the marketing of 'like-hid/xenon' bulbs
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So the max doesn't use his hids? One of my bulbs blew and i need it replaced.
Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Hid lights, where to get cheap ones online? It's 100 at discount auto.

Originally Posted by Mr. Brett
Yep. A lot of regular halogen bulbs are sealed in a blue glass and marketed as "xenon filled." Which would do absolutely nothing for the color of the bulb.



How about HIDextra? Do you need the bulb or what?
Well the bulb blew, the high beams still work.

Bump

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You can blame (as Nmex suggested) the marketing of 'like-hid/xenon' bulbs
Yep. A lot of regular halogen bulbs are sealed in a blue glass and marketed as "xenon filled." Which would do absolutely nothing for the color of the bulb.

Originally Posted by Scott LaRock
Hid lights, where to get cheap ones online? It's 100 at discount auto.
How about HIDextra? Do you need the bulb or what?
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I really hope this was sarcastic.
Naw man straight up slow down man
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Where would be the best place to buy a replacement D2R bulbs in say like a 6000k temp? I've dealt with DDM tuning on several cars for complete kits and they have replacement bulbs for cheap, however they are wired up to work with aftermarket ballasts therfore it wouldn't work on the factory Maxima one. I ordered a 6000k kit for the fogs and I want the headlights to match as well.
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