Vibration during acceleration, after lowering
02-07-2011, 08:35 AM
#1
Vibration during acceleration, after lowering
i'm trying to go to the 1/4 mile track this weekend...but one main thing hinders me...the vibration in the 'axle' i guess. upon acceleration 1-2-(sometimes) 3rd gear. i have a vibration in the steering wheel, mainly. i got an alignment friday after work (1 week after installing my BC coilovers)...seemed to take care of it for a little while...but by later that night/saturday morning i felt it coming back along w/ the car pulling to the right again....
before i took it to them to get aligned my driver side tire was like this(\) and my passenger side was like this (|)...granted it was straightened when i got it aligned, and it seemed to be the cause of my vibration as after the alignment i had no vibration, nor pulling. it still seems that my toe is corrected, but of course i dont have 'computerized eyes' to tell if its correct, any recommendations? i do plan on calling them to recheck it because it shouldnt be, at worse, pulling again 'right after' i got it aligned. its not like i hit any harsh bumps that would knock it out of align THAT much to make it start pulling again.
SN: my driver side axle has been open/busted for a while anyway, but i never had the vibration, prior to the coilover install. in essence...this is my original axle as far as i know and it hasnt slung grease only to basically let me know that i do have a busted axle...very few slings of grease, other than that, that wheel is clean, inside and out and when i turn, there is no clicking. only noise i hear is the inner fender lining hitting the wheel when im making a turn
for reference, this is the height of my car and raising up isnt an option that i want to hear
before i took it to them to get aligned my driver side tire was like this(\) and my passenger side was like this (|)...granted it was straightened when i got it aligned, and it seemed to be the cause of my vibration as after the alignment i had no vibration, nor pulling. it still seems that my toe is corrected, but of course i dont have 'computerized eyes' to tell if its correct, any recommendations? i do plan on calling them to recheck it because it shouldnt be, at worse, pulling again 'right after' i got it aligned. its not like i hit any harsh bumps that would knock it out of align THAT much to make it start pulling again.
SN: my driver side axle has been open/busted for a while anyway, but i never had the vibration, prior to the coilover install. in essence...this is my original axle as far as i know and it hasnt slung grease only to basically let me know that i do have a busted axle...very few slings of grease, other than that, that wheel is clean, inside and out and when i turn, there is no clicking. only noise i hear is the inner fender lining hitting the wheel when im making a turn
for reference, this is the height of my car and raising up isnt an option that i want to hear
Last edited by phatboislim; 02-07-2011 at 08:38 AM.
02-07-2011, 10:11 AM
#2
What you are likely feeling is binding. Raising it up is probably the only option. Replace your axles first with QUALITY ones. My stock axles were shot after ONE week. I ended up going with brand new ones from NAPA (note: NOT re-manufactured!). They survived nearly a year of being slammed and another year dropped about 2 inches and are still going strong. I suppose you can check your tie rod as well considering it is also at an extreme angle.
On a more serious note, driving around with an axle that needs attention is beyond stupid. If you can't afford to maintain your car, ride the bus.
On a more serious note, driving around with an axle that needs attention is beyond stupid. If you can't afford to maintain your car, ride the bus.
02-07-2011, 10:46 AM
#3
ill price one at napa...another thing has been brought to my attention is motor mount which i've been wanting to do anyway. i've been told that after cross rotating my tires, that maybe my next move.
as far as driving around without getting something fixed. i have the means to get it done, main reason it hasnt been replaced. i didnt want to rip open a brand new axle as soon lowered. it. extra work for no reason. ill get it done, but i know a busted axle wouldnt cause it. binding sounds more realistic. i've dropped nearly over two grand in repairs/maintenance in my car in the last 6 months, so its not whether i can afford it, its repairing/maintaining/taking care of while i'm in the area. not to mention i dont have the time. when it starts clicking then i know its time to hurry up. but its been that way since before i ever lowered it when i had my 19s. so if it didnt sling grease/click when i had the 19s, i'm ok, obviously. thanks for your input though, i highly appreciate it
as far as driving around without getting something fixed. i have the means to get it done, main reason it hasnt been replaced. i didnt want to rip open a brand new axle as soon lowered. it. extra work for no reason. ill get it done, but i know a busted axle wouldnt cause it. binding sounds more realistic. i've dropped nearly over two grand in repairs/maintenance in my car in the last 6 months, so its not whether i can afford it, its repairing/maintaining/taking care of while i'm in the area. not to mention i dont have the time. when it starts clicking then i know its time to hurry up. but its been that way since before i ever lowered it when i had my 19s. so if it didnt sling grease/click when i had the 19s, i'm ok, obviously. thanks for your input though, i highly appreciate it
02-07-2011, 11:37 AM
#4
A busted axle WILL cause all kinds of vibrations and pulling. you'd be amazed all of the weird issues an axle will cause.
If the thing is busted, just replace it. can't rule it out until you do, and you know you need to replace it.
and when you're done, you need to get another alignment since you have to rip apart the suspension to remove the axle.
And while you're at it, go ahead and replace the axle on the other side. when one fails, the second usually isn't far behind.
finally.. raise your car. it's too low and is likely causing the axle to bottom out in the housing, which will cause vibrations, severe wear, and quick failure.
whether you want to hear it or not, it's the troof. problems will continue to happen until you do it.
If the thing is busted, just replace it. can't rule it out until you do, and you know you need to replace it.
and when you're done, you need to get another alignment since you have to rip apart the suspension to remove the axle.
And while you're at it, go ahead and replace the axle on the other side. when one fails, the second usually isn't far behind.
finally.. raise your car. it's too low and is likely causing the axle to bottom out in the housing, which will cause vibrations, severe wear, and quick failure.
whether you want to hear it or not, it's the troof. problems will continue to happen until you do it.
02-07-2011, 11:41 AM
#5
passenger side axle is at least 25-30k miles old and still in good shape..ill take care of the other. as far as raising it, naw, not going to happen. i appreciate the words of wisdom, but ill just stay as a 'young dumb (fill in whatever else you want) but this appeases me as my car. i will rule out teh axle. i've been waiting to do it also as i've been waiting ot get 15k on this 'new' trans that ive put in so i can drop the MTF at the same time. so ill do it then.
02-07-2011, 12:32 PM
#6
passenger side axle is at least 25-30k miles old and still in good shape..ill take care of the other. as far as raising it, naw, not going to happen. i appreciate the words of wisdom, but ill just stay as a 'young dumb (fill in whatever else you want) but this appeases me as my car. i will rule out teh axle. i've been waiting to do it also as i've been waiting ot get 15k on this 'new' trans that ive put in so i can drop the MTF at the same time. so ill do it then.
Like I said, being that low will destroy axles within a few weeks if they are cheap and/or re-manufactured ones. Or in my case, what appeared to be the originals. Might as well do the other side, even if it does have 25-30k unless you have raxxles in there or something.
02-07-2011, 02:57 PM
#8
Or like I mentioned, you could try the NAPA ones, as long as they're the new ones.
02-07-2011, 06:37 PM
#9
the axle has a lifetime warranty if you got it from ADvance, right? (either way, they're crap reman axles if you got them from a parts store. A-1 Cardone most likely. which is junk..)
if so, just tell them it's got a vibration or the shaft is bent or something and you need another one replaced under warranty. replace both at the same time while you have the car in pieces.
as for lowering.... you've been warned. Young and dumb is right.
if so, just tell them it's got a vibration or the shaft is bent or something and you need another one replaced under warranty. replace both at the same time while you have the car in pieces.
as for lowering.... you've been warned. Young and dumb is right.
02-08-2011, 04:31 AM
#11
http://www.raxles.com/
Or like I mentioned, you could try the NAPA ones, as long as they're the new ones.
Or like I mentioned, you could try the NAPA ones, as long as they're the new ones.
no offense taken...everyone has their pet peeve. yours is total functionality, i'm about function, but sometimes..i just love to form. after a little while and if motor mounts and axles dont fix/reduce my vibration ill probably raise it up....but i do love the sexy
Last edited by phatboislim; 02-08-2011 at 04:34 AM.
02-11-2011, 02:45 AM
#20
yea thats teh plan. i had my mechanic ride with me yesterday after work and he confirmed the axles as that same vibration he had in a stock accord. so i'm buying a new one on teh driver and a free replacement on the passenger
02-11-2011, 01:42 PM
#22
02-11-2011, 01:45 PM
#23
"you guys" ....
I have one on my car....from Raxles, passenger side. I have a 5.0 gen.
Unless you're talking about 5.5 gen passenger side....if the OP has a 5.5 gen and the aforementioned statement is true, then I digress.
I have one on my car....from Raxles, passenger side. I have a 5.0 gen.
Unless you're talking about 5.5 gen passenger side....if the OP has a 5.5 gen and the aforementioned statement is true, then I digress.
02-11-2011, 01:48 PM
#24
I know you better than that....I thought the 5th gen was the same as the 5.5, according to Raxles.
I think Phatboi IS in a 5.5 -- but he doesn't say, and I don't know for sure.
i digress as well. (deep breath)
gr
**edit: his picture LOOKS like a 5th gen**
Leave it that height. The Axle companies need consumers.
02-12-2011, 05:14 AM
#29
and if replacing the axles fixes it, what's your excuse? took it to my mechanic another vehicle, stock height, had the same exact vibration, axle fixed it...as soon as he felt me accelerate, he confirmed axles. so this will be done in about two wks as i have to order my MTF first
02-12-2011, 06:33 AM
#30
Excuse?
If a new axle fixes the one that was ruined due to excessive lowering I wouldn't be surprised at all.
The issues with lowering a 5th Gen beyond a certain point and chewing the axles is well documented on the .org.
I'm really not trying too bust your *****, the symptom and cause seem to be obvious.
If a new axle fixes the one that was ruined due to excessive lowering I wouldn't be surprised at all.
The issues with lowering a 5th Gen beyond a certain point and chewing the axles is well documented on the .org.
I'm really not trying too bust your *****, the symptom and cause seem to be obvious.
02-12-2011, 07:58 AM
#31
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Excuse?
If a new axle fixes the one that was ruined due to excessive lowering I wouldn't be surprised at all.
The issues with lowering a 5th Gen beyond a certain point and chewing the axles is well documented on the .org.
I'm really not trying too bust your *****, the symptom and cause seem to be obvious.
If a new axle fixes the one that was ruined due to excessive lowering I wouldn't be surprised at all.
The issues with lowering a 5th Gen beyond a certain point and chewing the axles is well documented on the .org.
I'm really not trying too bust your *****, the symptom and cause seem to be obvious.
Last edited by sparks03max; 02-12-2011 at 09:16 AM.
02-12-2011, 08:15 AM
#32
...assuming they're about the same thing, having done neither.
02-12-2011, 03:51 PM
#33
Excuse?
If a new axle fixes the one that was ruined due to excessive lowering I wouldn't be surprised at all.
The issues with lowering a 5th Gen beyond a certain point and chewing the axles is well documented on the .org.
I'm really not trying too bust your *****, the symptom and cause seem to be obvious.
If a new axle fixes the one that was ruined due to excessive lowering I wouldn't be surprised at all.
The issues with lowering a 5th Gen beyond a certain point and chewing the axles is well documented on the .org.
I'm really not trying too bust your *****, the symptom and cause seem to be obvious.
i just dont see the need to go overboard about telling someone they need to raise their car because its 'stupid/ugly' to be that low. i can say to you its stupid/ugly to be as high as you are, but i dont bust anyones ***** on this forum. if thats how they want to ride, thats them, and what they decide. i have teh ability to raise at will, and if i feel/have the need/want to do so i will. until then ill ride like this. nearly a better ride than my dropzone springs and illuminas i had and im lower than where i was. so no complaints on how low i am, although i'm not slammed
02-12-2011, 10:09 PM
#34
as if i dont already know...the axle on my driver side had over 190k before the boot busted and that was BEFORE i put coilovers on and had vibration issues. teh passenger side was replaced at about 150k with a busted axle, with just the same 2" drop i had on my car, so as far as chewing axles, thats not my case...there are others lower with no axle chewing issues. my problem is only vibration, thats it.
i just dont see the need to go overboard about telling someone they need to raise their car because its 'stupid/ugly' to be that low. i can say to you its stupid/ugly to be as high as you are, but i dont bust anyones ***** on this forum. if thats how they want to ride, thats them, and what they decide. i have teh ability to raise at will, and if i feel/have the need/want to do so i will. until then ill ride like this. nearly a better ride than my dropzone springs and illuminas i had and im lower than where i was. so no complaints on how low i am, although i'm not slammed
i just dont see the need to go overboard about telling someone they need to raise their car because its 'stupid/ugly' to be that low. i can say to you its stupid/ugly to be as high as you are, but i dont bust anyones ***** on this forum. if thats how they want to ride, thats them, and what they decide. i have teh ability to raise at will, and if i feel/have the need/want to do so i will. until then ill ride like this. nearly a better ride than my dropzone springs and illuminas i had and im lower than where i was. so no complaints on how low i am, although i'm not slammed
Excessive lowering leads too issues such as you are experiencing. I, along with a few others in this thread were eluding too that fact. And it is, a fact.
03-23-2011, 05:05 AM
#36
*update* replaced both axles w/ DSS axles, i still have vibration during accelerating, but nothing as major as i was feeling this pass weekend as my axle was basically seperating and i was 200 miles from home *talk about a scary ride home*.
so i'm going to rotate my tires, see if that eliminates my vibration.
if it doesnt (wierd theory) i'm going to lower the back to make the drop even all teh way around
if that doesnt work then im going to raise it up maybe half an inch and see what it does
so i'm going to rotate my tires, see if that eliminates my vibration.
if it doesnt (wierd theory) i'm going to lower the back to make the drop even all teh way around
if that doesnt work then im going to raise it up maybe half an inch and see what it does
03-24-2011, 04:40 AM
#38
i'm glad you said this, because the more and more i think about it, i think its GOT to be my motor/trans mounts. since the axle is probably in an awkward position sitting as it is as its lowered, when i put a load on the car/engine, it makes sense because the engine shifts when i put a load on it, causing the awkward positioned axle to vibrate, causing vibration during acceleration. i'm going to talk to my mechanic today and see what free time he has the wk after next to install or if he'll help me install them after work one day
03-24-2011, 12:12 PM
#39
Our 5th gen maxima's just aren't good cars to slam or stance.