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Old 02-17-2011 | 05:00 AM
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Coilover longevity?

Was wondering how long coilovers typically last before they have to be rebuilt? I'm looking into getting some ksport coilovers. How do they compare to regular (tokico hp). As for the ride I hear they're more comfortable.
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Old 02-17-2011 | 05:26 AM
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This could actually be a very informative thread if we let it. There is no one place to find information on coilovers on the org. Try a search and read a few thousand posts that usually consist of "mine is > all" comments peppered with hearsay and posturing. It's enough to want to shoot yourself in the face. The real enthusiast wants credible, concise information. I did see a thread that listed what type of coilovers were installed, the mileage, and impressions, but I don't think that's the right way to do it. There needs to be a specific thread for longevity of coilovers and springs/struts. Only data. No opinions on the data.

Perhaps, something like this:

Vehicle: (Year, Model, Trans)

Setup: (C/Os w/Pillowball Mounts, C/Os w/ stock mounts, Springs/Struts)

Brand: (self-explanatory)

Mileage installed: (actual odometer reading)

Service Mileage: (actual odometer reading)
Method of Service
Interval of Service
Rebuild Mileage: (actual odometer reading)
How many/Which corners?
Cost of Rebuild
Time it took to be Rebuilt
Replace Mileage: (actual odometer reading)
How many/Which corners?



No opinions, no OT.
Old 02-17-2011 | 05:33 AM
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the thread that you mentioned like that pretty much has that information included in it...

as far as longevity, people with Tein SS dont usually replace/rebuild theirs. i havent heard of MANY people blow their BCs (non inverted), i've heard of JICs (inverted) and BC (inverted) being rebuilt, although those ride the best, they require more service and are not meant for daily driving. i dont know how well the NEW K sports are constructed, but i've heard of alot of people rebuilding/replacing the struts on their D2s and K sports. this is from things i've read, hear on the big org and some on nycmaxima as well, but mainly i've read on here

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Old 02-17-2011 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by phatboislim
the thread that you mentioned like that pretty much has that information included in it...

as far as longevity, people with Tein SS dont usually replace/rebuild theirs. i havent heard of MANY people blow their BCs (non inverted), i've heard of JICs (inverted) and BC (inverted) being rebuilt, although those ride the best, they require more service and are not meant for daily driving. i dont know how well the NEW K sports are constructed, but i've heard of alot of people rebuilding/replacing the struts on their D2s and K sports. this is from things i've read, hear on the big org and some on nycmaxima as well, but mainly i've read on here
I hear what you're saying. Trust me, I've been through all the threads. The majority of the posts are all based on opinions or "I read, I heard". I can't stand making important decisions based on a brother's friend's cousin's grandmother's next-door-neighbor's dog walker. Each participating member can update their post within the thread periodically. So if someone has JIC A2s that have 50k and haven't had to be rebuilt, they can enter that data. No driving data, no noise data, no my-friend's-*fill in brand name* ride so much better data.
Old 02-17-2011 | 07:05 AM
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gotcha...but at the end of the day...that more than likely whats going to come out of this....or any other thread. but i'm done. hopefully there will be some experienced people with coilovers that chime in

as far as i go, on my BC Type BR (non inverted) close to 3k miles on them with no issues yet. i ride 400 miles/wk going back and forth to work. no noises, and its better than my aftermarket spring/strut setup and very very close to my stock ride, better in some instances, and not in some. i'm riding i believe 13F and 15R as far as stiffness goes...i have 30-way adjustable dampening
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Originally Posted by nelledge
This could actually be a very informative thread if we let it. There is no one place to find information on coilovers on the org. Try a search and read a few thousand posts that usually consist of "mine is > all" comments peppered with hearsay and posturing. It's enough to want to shoot yourself in the face. The real enthusiast wants credible, concise information. I did see a thread that listed what type of coilovers were installed, the mileage, and impressions, but I don't think that's the right way to do it. There needs to be a specific thread for longevity of coilovers and springs/struts. Only data. No opinions on the data.

Perhaps, something like this:

Vehicle: (Year, Model, Trans)

Setup: (C/Os w/Pillowball Mounts, C/Os w/ stock mounts, Springs/Struts)

Brand: (self-explanatory)

Mileage installed: (actual odometer reading)

Service Mileage: (actual odometer reading)
Method of Service
Interval of Service
Rebuild Mileage: (actual odometer reading)
How many/Which corners?
Cost of Rebuild
Time it took to be Rebuilt
Replace Mileage: (actual odometer reading)
How many/Which corners?



No opinions, no OT.
http://forums.maxima.org/advanced-su...ep-please.html

http://nycmaximas.org/showthread.php?t=28904

Old 02-17-2011 | 08:24 AM
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Other useful info regarding mono- vs. twin-tube designs:

http://www.ek9.org/forum/suspension/...info-tein.html

Tein SS are the only ones that are twin-tube (better for street use). From what I've heard/read/researched, you'll get the best longevity out of a set of Teins.
Old 02-17-2011 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
Read through this thread and note the extraneous information within. Exactly, my point. And 3 contributors. THREE??? Seriously? All the members on here that have coilover setups and this is the best we can do?

Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
this is only a product review NOT a service review

Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
Please, re-read my post. Thank you.
Old 02-17-2011 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jowo9
Other useful info regarding mono- vs. twin-tube designs:

http://www.ek9.org/forum/suspension/...info-tein.html

Tein SS are the only ones that are twin-tube (better for street use). From what I've heard/read/researched, you'll get the best longevity out of a set of Teins.
+1 Hands down, longevity+coilovers=TEIN
Old 02-17-2011 | 10:14 AM
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I'll play, only because a few morons on here seem compelled to stop the sharing of new information. Search for coilover threads from 06? Cmon now.

I have about 30k miles on my NEX GT rear coilovers, those are holding up fine. I bought my front coilovers (D2 RS) with like 70k on them according to the previous owner. One blew on the spot, and one blew about 20k miles after (replaced like two weeks ago).

Obviously it's dependent on climate but I rode daily on these through winter and minefield IA roads.

Coilovers have more potential to be comfortable compared to spring/strut setups due to the fact you don't lose suspension travel with ride height.
Old 02-17-2011 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nelledge
Read through this thread and note the extraneous information within. Exactly, my point. And 3 contributors. THREE??? Seriously? All the members on here that have coilover setups and this is the best we can do?
That's why I tried to get it going, same reason as you, but no one seems to want to contribute.


Originally Posted by nelledge
this is only a product review NOT a service review
I know, based on your post I thought it would be information you would like to read, I apologize, I will refrain from trying to help you in the future.


Originally Posted by nelledge
Please, re-read my post. Thank you.
My links were purely to assist you, you're right, there isn't any good singular thread out there that shows longevity of Coilovers. My suggestion is that everyone with CO's follow this link> http://forums.maxima.org/advanced-su...ep-please.html
and add their results. Then maybe we can get it stickied.

I have done a LOT of research on the available options, and the link I send you at NYCmaximas has the best breakdown of BEST to WORST listed in order.

You can expect that the reliability will reflect that list. I noticed that it matched up very close based on the coilovers I was interested in.

I'll post MY lists here, almost the same as listed on NYC maxima.
DISCLAIMER: These lists are based on research done across the Maxima forums, as well as other forums that the manufacturers products apply. This is just MY OPINION based on that research

Best to Worst, Ride and O/A quality:

1. JIC FLT A-2
2. BC RAM type
3. Tein SS
4. BC BR series
5. JIC A-1
6. Megan Racing
7. D2
8. NEX SS
9. K-Sport
10. Tein Basic

NOTE: 4/5 could go either way., I don't think the A1 is still available though?


Reliability, BEST to WORST:

1. Tein SS
2. JIC FLT A-2
3. BC BR Series
4. BC RAM series
5. JIC A-1
6. Megan Racing
7. Tein Basic
8. NEX SS
9. D2
10. K-Sport

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on ride, switch JIC A-1 and Megan and that'll be close to correct...but i think you're right about the A1s, all i've seen are the FLT A-2s
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
That's why I tried to get it going, same reason as you, but no one seems to want to contribute.

I know, based on your post I thought it would be information you would like to read, I apologize, I will refrain from trying to help you in the future.

My links were purely to assist you, you're right, there isn't any good singular thread out there that shows longevity of Coilovers. My suggestion is that everyone with CO's follow this link> http://forums.maxima.org/advanced-su...ep-please.html
and add their results. Then maybe we can get it stickied.

I have done a LOT of research on the available options, and the link I send you at NYCmaximas has the best breakdown of BEST to WORST listed in order....
No hard feelings. I just wanted to clarify the specifics of my proposal. As far as the specifics? I have read the nycmaximas link numerous times. I have spent hours trying to get information from this forum and moved on to other Nissan forums and then on to other manufacturer forums just to get some concrete data. The trouble is that everyone wants to give anecdotal information without any hard data on longevity. I figured the OP was having the same problem and so I proposed a focused, survey-specific thread.
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I haven't tried any other setup besides ksports (newer version) so I can't vouch for the others, but I'll give my experience with them so far. Install was a breeze, and handling is great. Ride quality? Well it's definitely harsher than stock and the softer settings don't really make it better. In fact I actually prefer the hardest setting because the softer settings make the ride a bit bouncy. For the price though ($700 or $800 shipped in my case can't remember), I think it was well worth it. I was looking at replacing all of my mounts as well which would have cost me a lot more had I gone with another setup such as the Teins. I would still like to try the Teins eventually, but for now I have no complaints with the ksports. Good luck!
Old 02-18-2011 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by nelledge
No hard feelings. I just wanted to clarify the specifics of my proposal. As far as the specifics? I have read the nycmaximas link numerous times. I have spent hours trying to get information from this forum and moved on to other Nissan forums and then on to other manufacturer forums just to get some concrete data. The trouble is that everyone wants to give anecdotal information without any hard data on longevity. I figured the OP was having the same problem and so I proposed a focused, survey-specific thread.

Thank you!!!
Old 02-18-2011 | 10:00 PM
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Reliability, BEST to WORST:

1. Tein SS
2. JIC FLT A-2
3. BC BR Series
4. BC RAM series
5. JIC A-1
6. Megan Racing
7. Tein Basic
8. NEX SS
9. D2
10. K-Sport

Really? Nex SS and Megan coilovers are more reliable than K sports
Old 02-19-2011 | 04:10 AM
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Based on the available research I did, yes. I wouldn't think this is a shocker to anyone. I've heard that the 'new' K-sports aren't as bad as the old ones, but there is little evidence to support that, and the 'old' ones were terrible for reliability, many, many issues and noises.
Old 02-19-2011 | 01:33 PM
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I would think it would also depend on what settings you have the coilovers at.
Old 09-20-2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
That's why I tried to get it going, same reason as you, but no one seems to want to contribute.




I know, based on your post I thought it would be information you would like to read, I apologize, I will refrain from trying to help you in the future.




My links were purely to assist you, you're right, there isn't any good singular thread out there that shows longevity of Coilovers. My suggestion is that everyone with CO's follow this link> http://forums.maxima.org/advanced-su...ep-please.html
and add their results. Then maybe we can get it stickied.

I have done a LOT of research on the available options, and the link I send you at NYCmaximas has the best breakdown of BEST to WORST listed in order.

You can expect that the reliability will reflect that list. I noticed that it matched up very close based on the coilovers I was interested in.

I'll post MY lists here, almost the same as listed on NYC maxima.
DISCLAIMER: These lists are based on research done across the Maxima forums, as well as other forums that the manufacturers products apply. This is just MY OPINION based on that research

Best to Worst, Ride and O/A quality:

1. JIC FLT A-2
2. BC RAM type
3. Tein SS
4. BC BR series
5. JIC A-1
6. Megan Racing
7. D2
8. NEX SS
9. K-Sport
10. Tein Basic

NOTE: 4/5 could go either way., I don't think the A1 is still available though?


Reliability, BEST to WORST:

1. Tein SS
2. JIC FLT A-2
3. BC BR Series
4. BC RAM series
5. JIC A-1
6. Megan Racing
7. Tein Basic
8. NEX SS
9. D2
10. K-Sport
My question...

Sorry to chime in and bother the 5th Gen community, but would these listings refer to 4th Gen Maximas as well? I ask since I have one and I am considering buying some Megan Racing Coilovers and replacing my current setup, which consists of KYB GR2 struts and Tein S-Tech Springs. Also, since they dont make the Tein SS Coilover system for the 4th gen, then are the Tein Basics still recommended? Just though I'd ask...
Old 09-20-2011 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kidgrave
My question...

Sorry to chime in and bother the 5th Gen community, but would these listings refer to 4th Gen Maximas as well? I ask since I have one and I am considering buying some Megan Racing Coilovers and replacing my current setup, which consists of KYB GR2 struts and Tein S-Tech Springs. Also, since they dont make the Tein SS Coilover system for the 4th gen, then are the Tein Basics still recommended? Just though I'd ask...
Some searching will provide you with the answers you seek as to the compatibility. As I recall, the only difference is one of the lower strut mounts in the front, you need to drill or enlarge a hole IIRC.

That said, if that's all you need to do, you COULD get the TEIN SS, just make sure you search to clarify that.
Old 09-20-2011 | 08:33 PM
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I see...so basically I can convert the TEIN SS to fit my 4th gen? So sick! Will look more into it...thanks a lot bro!
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