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Old 04-01-2011 | 07:35 AM
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SE Gauges ?

I've searched and can't find anything that helps.

I have a 2002 GLE with traction control and would like to swap in SE gauges. All ebay ones I find don't' seem to have traction control. So if I put these SE gauges in will my TCS light not illuminate but still function?

any thoughts appreciated.

Edit: never mind, looks like there is no way to get the TCS light to come on. http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...questions.html

I question though, did SE's come with TCS?

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Old 04-01-2011 | 08:49 AM
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Go to the wreckers and get an SE gauge cluster that HAS traction control.

Or search the online Wrecker directories.

You cannot get used gauge clusters calibrated legally anywhere I'm aware of though, so you will likely have to swap memory chips from your old gauges to retain your mileage.
Old 04-01-2011 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
Go to the wreckers and get an SE gauge cluster that HAS traction control.

Or search the online Wrecker directories.

You cannot get used gauge clusters calibrated legally anywhere I'm aware of though, so you will likely have to swap memory chips from your old gauges to retain your mileage.
Thanks

I really don't care about the mileage being accurate....as long as SE's did come withe the TCS option, then I'll just keep waiting until I find one that works. I'm in no rush.
Old 04-01-2011 | 09:31 AM
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Yes SE`s had TCS.

If you ever get dinged by the DMV or whatever it`s called in the US, you will care that it`s accurate.

OR if you ever want to sell your car, or if it gets in an accident. You should look up the fines and jail time associated with incorrect odometer reading
Old 04-01-2011 | 10:07 PM
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cant you just put a bulb in where it says slip and TCS off and hook it up? I thought the TCS was a separate module?
Old 04-02-2011 | 07:10 AM
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I never saw the big deal of the TCS light itself being operable or not. It doesn't affect the TCS system, right?
Old 04-02-2011 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000

You cannot get used gauge clusters calibrated legally anywhere I'm aware of though, so you will likely have to swap memory chips from your old gauges to retain your mileage.
How hard is it to swap the milage memory chips?
Old 04-02-2011 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by T.One
cant you just put a bulb in where it says slip and TCS off and hook it up? I thought the TCS was a separate module?
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I never saw the big deal of the TCS light itself being operable or not. It doesn't affect the TCS system, right?
The theory you both hold is correct, the light IS just an indicator. The TCS module is located under the radio.

What I can't tell you is:

1. If the 'bulb' is included in a gauge cluster that DOENS'T have TCS, and if it is NOT included, I'd like you to know, it's not actually a BULB on your car, it's an LED that is soldered to the circuit board, and you have to remove the needles and gauge faces to replace it or install one.

2. If the wiring is the same on the Gauge cluster, it's not uncommon for the female harness connectors to have a prong 'missing' when the gauges don't have a certain option (ABS, Trac Control, etc, etc.)
If the wiring doesn't exist, then you're into adding wiring also.

I don't know, I haven't put a 5.5 gauge cluster with TCS next to one without, that's the only way you're going to find out if they're different.
I CAN tell you, when a Wrecker looks it up, they want to know if your car has TCS, that's one of the main inquiries, next to auto/manual and Model type.

In short, you're much better off just getting one WITH TCS as I suggested, not worth the headache for most people if they're not compatible.

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How hard is it to swap the milage memory chips?
I haven't done one yet, but I suspect it's not too horrible if you have a good knowledge of circuit board work, and soldering experience on circuit boards. The chip isn't integrated too intense, but it wouldn't be hard to mess it up either

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Old 04-02-2011 | 10:03 AM
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I am kinda bad with soldering so ... I need to practice a bit before I would attempt a swap.
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Originally Posted by datsunzcar84
I am kinda bad with soldering so ... I need to practice a bit before I would attempt a swap.
You need a solder-remover as well.

Google, and you-tube, you`ll find some vids of the process
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Lol I have watched them a hundred times I have a solder sucker. I couldn't get that to work so I had better success with solder wick. My biggest problem is getting solder to flow. Maybe use better flux than the harbor freight special? Lol
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Originally Posted by datsunzcar84
Lol I have watched them a hundred times I have a solder sucker. I couldn't get that to work so I had better success with solder wick. My biggest problem is getting solder to flow. Maybe use better flux than the harbor freight special? Lol
The key with circuit boards is to get LOW FLOW rosin core solder.
Best composition is 63/37, but that can be hard to find.
60/40 will work fine.

Make sure you also get the Thin stuff, for electronic use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Er...older_Tube.jpg

This will make all the difference. As well, an iron that`s got a fine tip, and power between 25 watt and 100, 50 watt is ideal. Keep the tip clean after each use, and lightly tinned with clean solder
Old 04-02-2011 | 12:12 PM
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Old 04-04-2011 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MrEous
I never saw the big deal of the TCS light itself being operable or not. It doesn't affect the TCS system, right?
I really don't care about the TCS light being on or not but the way the rocker switch is setup you wouldn't be able to tell if it was on or off as there would be no light to indicate it's state.
Old 04-04-2011 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ilacuss
I really don't care about the TCS light being on or not but the way the rocker switch is setup you wouldn't be able to tell if it was on or off as there would be no light to indicate it's state.
Turn on car, TCS is auto-on. I dunno, I guess I don't really have a need to switch back and forth that often between startups.
Old 04-05-2011 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MrEous
Turn on car, TCS is auto-on. I dunno, I guess I don't really have a need to switch back and forth that often between startups.
Cool, I didn't realize it turned on automatically when starting the car...never really paid attention to it. I've never found a need to turn it off either so would probably never really use the switch.
Old 04-05-2011 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ilacuss
Cool, I didn't realize it turned on automatically when starting the car...never really paid attention to it. I've never found a need to turn it off either so would probably never really use the switch.
Just for street racing......
Old 04-06-2011 | 06:23 PM
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Just don't get an 02. I thought all 03's came with tcs. My SE has it.
Old 04-06-2011 | 08:48 PM
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I think anyone with the LSD got it, and IIRC, the LSD was only offered on the SE model, so most SE's would have TCS I think.
Old 04-07-2011 | 09:19 AM
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LSD != "Traction Control"

"Traction Control" merely uses the brakes to clamp down on a wheel it detects is spinning excessively. A limited slip-diff is way better and way different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited...ial#Geared_LSD
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...and HLSD SE gauge wouldn't work on an Auto-Maxima anyway. lol
Old 04-07-2011 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by luvlexus101
Just don't get an 02. I thought all 03's came with tcs. My SE has it.
03 SE AT here, no TCS.

Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
I think anyone with the LSD got it, and IIRC, the LSD was only offered on the SE model, so most SE's would have TCS I think.
02+LSD AT Maximas in the USA =

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...and HLSD SE gauge wouldn't work on an Auto-Maxima anyway. lol


Do HLSD SE gauges exist, as in the difference vs non HLSD?

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Old 04-07-2011 | 03:45 PM
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I have a gauge cluster from an 03 in front of me from a 6mt, american model. It has the TCS and Slip and AT check on the overlay, but the led's are missing. So I am pretty sure if you get any SE gauge you can solder the led's and it will be ok. Funny thin is it does not have the PRND12 in the center of the overlay
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Do HLSD SE gauges exist, as in the difference vs non HLSD?
No HLSD specific gauges...but have you seen any AT 5.5gens with HLSD?

...because...

Originally Posted by knight_yyz
I have a gauge cluster from an 03 in front of me from a 6mt, american model. It has the TCS and Slip and AT check on the overlay, but the led's are missing. So I am pretty sure if you get any SE gauge you can solder the led's and it will be ok. Funny thin is it does not have the PRND12 in the center of the overlay

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Old 04-07-2011 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MrEous
No HLSD specific gauges...but have you seen any AT 5.5gens with HLSD?

...because...


Originally Posted by me
02+LSD AT Maximas in the USA =
Probably period, not just the USA... pretty sure we meant the same thing ..
Old 04-07-2011 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX


Probably period, not just the USA... pretty sure we meant the same thing ..
Yeah we both are right. Lol
I was just explaining the HLSD thing I said.
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Originally Posted by knight_yyz
I have a gauge cluster from an 03 in front of me from a 6mt, american model. It has the TCS and Slip and AT check on the overlay, but the led's are missing. So I am pretty sure if you get any SE gauge you can solder the led's and it will be ok. Funny thin is it does not have the PRND12 in the center of the overlay
Good to know thanks Ray, I need to stockpile this type of info
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