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Old 07-10-2011, 09:12 PM
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Hey all; I'm looking to put Illumina's and Progress springs on my car, stock suspension finally blew. I was hoping someone could point to a good website where I could purchase Illumina's for the cheapest price possible. I've searched and haven't been able to come up with much. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Ebay was the cheapest i found. Also pretty much the only place i looked.
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Ebay was the cheapest i found. Also pretty much the only place i looked.
How much?
I found them on autoanything for $503/set
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www.shox.com
Fast shipping and Great service!

I paid under 500$ if my memory serves me correct.
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:shocked: are you paying to have these installed?
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+1 performancepeddler.com + discount code.
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Originally Posted by phatboislim
:shocked: are you paying to have these installed?
Yes I am. I am not comfortable doing it myself nor do I have all of the proper equipment to do it myself.

Thanks for all of the help everyone!! One last question, will I need to trim the oem bump stops on these for the install or just leave them as is? Thanks!
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i was going to say you could, for the price you're going to pay for all of the parts and labor, get a set of coilovers thats already assembled and install them yourself
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i was going to say you could, for the price you're going to pay for all of the parts and labor, get a set of coilovers thats already assembled and install them yourself

The labor portion of that shop bill is going to be outrageous...
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Originally Posted by kkemmerich

The labor portion of that shop bill is going to be outrageous...
question is would a shop charge less for a complete coilover assembly?
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Shop is only charging $300 for the install. I've got front mounts, oem bump stops and dust boots, struts and springs. Am I missing anything?
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let's just get a general of what you are about to pay...

$500 - struts
$300 - labor =
$800... PLUS the springs....ill be generous and say

$100...thats

$900...you can find a good used/close to brand new set of coilovers for that price, seriously. and install them yourself
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Originally Posted by phatboislim
let's just get a general of what you are about to pay...

$500 - struts
$300 - labor =
$800... PLUS the springs....ill be generous and say

$100...thats

$900...you can find a good used/close to brand new set of coilovers for that price, seriously. and install them yourself
I see your point. How hard is it to install myself? I just don't know how comfortable I am doing the install myself. I don't own a whole lot of tools and I've never done it before
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Originally Posted by kbcnd
Shop is only charging $300 for the install. I've got front mounts, oem bump stops and dust boots, struts and springs. Am I missing anything?
just so you know thats an ok price, all I know is I paid more for my install.
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yeah man good price i paid $200 for spring, strut, and all hardware install
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Originally Posted by kbcnd
I see your point. How hard is it to install myself? I just don't know how comfortable I am doing the install myself. I don't own a whole lot of tools and I've never done it before
Installing coilovers is really easy. YouTube "replace struts" and you'll find a bunch of videos. Great thing with coilovers is that you won't have to compress the springs, which can be a royal pain in the A$$ if you don't have access to air tools.
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kbcnd, where are you located? I do suspension installs for a LOT of local org members...for much less than $300.
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^forgot about him...he might be able to save you a few hundred...but replacing coilovers is simple...the two nuts and bolts on teh bottom, and the three nuts up top for the front...and the rear...there are two nuts up top (just have you a magnet so the nuts wont get lost in that tight spot) and one bolt on the bottom...then adjust your height to your happiness, and you're set
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Originally Posted by Gizm0
Installing coilovers is really easy. YouTube "replace struts" and you'll find a bunch of videos. Great thing with coilovers is that you won't have to compress the springs, which can be a royal pain in the A$$ if you don't have access to air tools.
Really? A compressor is not necessary for coilovers? That's makes me think twice now about replacing my struts.
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Originally Posted by marky3320
Really? A compressor is not necessary for coilovers? That's makes me think twice now about replacing my struts.
Correct, no spring compressors needed - unless you get Tein's and want to reuse your hardware.
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Originally Posted by phatboislim
^forgot about him...he might be able to save you a few hundred...but replacing coilovers is simple...the two nuts and bolts on teh bottom, and the three nuts up top for the front...and the rear...there are two nuts up top (just have you a magnet so the nuts wont get lost in that tight spot) and one bolt on the bottom...then adjust your height to your happiness, and you're set
Yep, sounds about right
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
kbcnd, where are you located? I do suspension installs for a LOT of local org members...for much less than $300.
Dallas, Texas area
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tokico illumina and sprint springs
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^

i do wish there was a vid on replacing/removing spring/strut assembly on our cars, it'd make it easier for those wanting to do their own work. i tell you this though, i'm about to invest in a electric impact wrench
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Originally Posted by CMax03
I paid $463 /set a few years back....Got 80K on them and it's time to replace....
80K, sounds about right! I am not expecting the Illuminas to last longer than the oem equipment.

By the way, do not be cheap on tires, I would say 30% of your suspension set up is the tires.
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Originally Posted by kbcnd
Dallas, Texas area
Ah, that's unfortunate.

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i do wish there was a vid on replacing/removing spring/strut assembly on our cars, it'd make it easier for those wanting to do their own work. i tell you this though, i'm about to invest in a electric impact wrench
Not a vid, but close enough.
http://www.shiftice.com/strut_install.html
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Originally Posted by kbcnd
Shop is only charging $300 for the install. I've got front mounts, oem bump stops and dust boots, struts and springs. Am I missing anything?
I charge $200

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Thanks for the even lower price than I found!

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Houston area

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What's that a 1.3" drop?

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80K, sounds about right! I am not expecting the Illuminas to last longer than the oem equipment.

By the way, do not be cheap on tires, I would say 30% of your suspension set up is the tires.
Progress/Illuminas/Nitto 555 (the same setup I've been running for about 5 years) I think they lasted longer than OEM personally!
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Originally Posted by CMax03
What's that a 1.3" drop?
1.8 all around but its more like a 2'' from what i heard from other oger's
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Speaking of illuminas... I know they are warranted for a certain amount of drop (two inches?), but with a slam the warranty is voided. Does anyone consider this factor in their choice of lowering springs? Is the warranty short and useless anyways?

From what ive seen on the org they last long enough to have justified purchase so I assume I have a good product to match with some springs. Right now it seems that Eibachs are one of my only options for a drop if i want to retain warranty

In the end I would like to JUST drop the front on my m45 19" sports and run a 235/35/19s I dont want to drop the rear to avoid rubbing as I have a spare and sub in the trunk and regularly carry passengers.

Any thoughts on the subject are appreciated
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IIRC they state they're ok until 1.6"

I've warranteed Illuminas that were on S-Tech's, which are way lower than 1.6", without issue. I wouldn't use this as a limitation.

BTW, don't get Eibachs. Every set I've installed, the customer has exchanged for another spring that's less harsh.
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1.75" is the limit on my installation instructions! It states most cars can handle a 1"-1.75" drop with no problem....
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Assuming in going with struts / spring combo, do I need to replace anything else other than dust boots, bumpstops, and front mounts while its apart? Also, do the rear's get dustboots and bumpstops? Should I trim the stops or just leave them stock? Thanks yall
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If your dustboots/bumpstops look good then keep them but most of the dustbust are dry rotted and new one are needed! I've never seen a bad Strut mount yet...well on a Maxima that is!!!! I have a Progress sport spring and I never cut the last dustboots I installed....If you do cut them...Tokico suggest cutting 1/3" - 1/2" only! That's really nothing! All four strut do need dustboots and that will void your warranty since the dustboot and bumpstops are one unit in the OEM style, The New KYB which I don't like are a 2-piece design....GL Dude!
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Originally Posted by CMax03
If your dustboots/bumpstops look good then keep them but most of the dustbust are dry rotted and new one are needed! I've never seen a bad Strut mount yet...well on a Maxima that is!!!! I have a Progress sport spring and I never cut the last dustboots I installed....If you do cut them...Tokico suggest cutting 1/3" - 1/2" only! That's really nothing! All four strut do need dustboots and that will void your warranty since the dustboot and bumpstops are one unit in the OEM style, The New KYB which I don't like are a 2-piece design....GL Dude!
Thanks man, much appreciated!! Great information yall have provided me with! So glad I stumbled upon the org, has saved me so much money already!
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Thanks for the even lower price than I found!
No worries man, shipping is free and usually takes about a week or so.

Assuming in going with struts / spring combo, do I need to replace anything else other than dust boots, bumpstops, and front mounts while its apart? Also, do the rear's get dustboots and bumpstops? Should I trim the stops or just leave them stock? Thanks yall
I wouldn't worry about cutting the bumpstops. I have Illuminas (5f/4r) and H-techs (1.6"f, 1.0"r) and left my bumpstops stock. Tires and rims have alot to do with suspension too, as Coltmax said. Just remember don't go cheap, and the more rubber you can fit on your ride the smoother it will be. Good luck to you man
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Originally Posted by CMax03
1.75" is the limit on my installation instructions! It states most cars can handle a 1"-1.75" drop with no problem....
Thanks I knew it was in that neighborhood.

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Assuming in going with struts / spring combo, do I need to replace anything else other than dust boots, bumpstops, and front mounts while its apart? Also, do the rear's get dustboots and bumpstops? Should I trim the stops or just leave them stock? Thanks yall
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If your dustboots/bumpstops look good then keep them but most of the dustbust are dry rotted and new one are needed! I've never seen a bad Strut mount yet...well on a Maxima that is!!!! I have a Progress sport spring and I never cut the last dustboots I installed....If you do cut them...Tokico suggest cutting 1/3" - 1/2" only! That's really nothing! All four strut do need dustboots and that will void your warranty since the dustboot and bumpstops are one unit in the OEM style, The New KYB which I don't like are a 2-piece design....GL Dude!
Dustboots/bumpstops are two pieces integrated into one part. Buy OEM dustboots ONLY. Cutting is not needed unless you have an aggressive drop like Tein S-Tech. Strut mounts are a must. I've seen PLENTY of busted ones. Buy Moog K90655 - they include replacement hardware and strut bearings.
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Correct, no spring compressors needed - unless you get Tein's and want to reuse your hardware.
which makes it harder but honestly sounds like the proper way if you ask me
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i'm about to ask a DUMBASS question lol. where is the bump stop? anyone have a pic of where it is? and what'd you use to cut it? just a box blade or what?
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Front bumpstops, 00-01 Maxima:
It's a foam rubber piece inside the dustboot - it's removable and two pieces, but sold as one part.

Front bumpstops for 02-03, and rear bumpstops for 00-03:
It's integrated into the dustboot itself, at the top of it. One piece.

Box cutter works. Rears are a bit tough but still doable.
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