Anyone had any experience with Kensun? I have just ordered a set of the 8000k Bi-Xenon's, and have read a lot of good things online but i just wondered if anyone had any experience on here?

Thanks in advance...

 

First mistake was getting 8k bulbs.

 

Agreed.

 

Why's that?

 

because 4300k>30,000k

basically, the lower the kelvin rating the better you will be able to see

 

4300K will give you the most useable light for headlight usage. At 5000K, you'll lose some lumens but it won't be that noticeable. 8000K is just useless.

 

any better than regular Halogens? gotta be right?

Anyone got any light on the brand??

 

if you are serious about getting an upgrade, good halogen bulbs like Phillips Extreme Vision or Nighthawk are better than PnP kit by a long shot, especially on your headlight. I have 00 Maxima and the stock reflector is actually pretty decent with good halogen bulbs. Those Extreme Visions were almost..almost as good as having Morimoto D2S projector retrofitted in there minus the colorfull and sharp cut off.

 

Brighter yes but then there's also more glare and a crappy beam pattern.

Go with better halogens like MSU2000 suggested.

 

Never heard of them and agreed with the 8000k had them before visibility is not great, just more for looks little more bluish...

 

I have 6k right now in my 5.5s. Coming from a quad setup, its like my headlights arent even on.

I'd go with high quality halogens in those lamps sir, as other ^ have said.

 

There is nothing wrong with 8K bulbs...I have them in my headlights AND fogs in BOTH my MDX and MAXIMA. Many other Maxima members have them as well. I have NO problems at all seeing WAYYYY down the road (and thats WITHOUT the fogs on) and I live in a rual area with LOTS of trees and NO streetlights! Those lights have saved me from hitting LOTS of deer because I can see them FAR off with those lights. For some reason my 8ks aren't as blue as the ones pictured below but they aren't as light as the 6ks either...somewhere in between. The best thing is to see them in real life. Its the same thing people try to making videos on how these different exhausts sound....you can never really get a good feel of an exhaust unless you hear it in person. Maybe you know someone who has 8ks and 6ks and you can ask to see their lights and make your choice from there. Going to Maxima meetups are a great way to see what others have done in person and how it looks and sounds. Just don't go off people saying "8ks are garbage." and make a decision from there. Go check different bulbs out for yourself.

 

8000K is garbage. My 5.5 also has 8000K top and bottom and there's a reason why I don't drive that car much at night.

I haven't switched over to 5000K top and bottom yet because I don't feel like spending money on new bulbs ATM.

 

8k is garbage. I ordered them and actually went back to stock. It looked cool yea but I would rather be lame and have my car in one piece.

 

Could have sworn 5k bulbs put out the most possible lumens

 

I respect your opinion and vision is very subjective from eye to eye. Did you ever have 4300K installed and compared them with 8000K? There is a reson most people say the 8000K is no good. In a good dry day, you maybe OK but try it under severe weather and you'll see what I mean. There is a reason the tru fog light is yellow (3000K), your eyes have less strain on that color light thus can see and focus longer distance.

 

4300K puts out a couple hundred more lumens but it's not really noticeable to our eyes. 5000K is better for my eyes personally so that's what I go with.

 

I dont know. Maybe its just me. I drove the car back in SEVERE rain just a couple of weeks ago from the Casino in Bensalem here it was POURING rain...so much that I had to drive very slow because I have performance tires on and they are good in rain, but not THAT much rain. Everyone on the highway was driving like 40mph and had their flashers on. I had no problems seeing in front of me and down the highway. Not one at all. If 8ks are like that then them 5 and 6ks must be REALLY good then.

 

I have no direct experience with them. A friend with an 03 Cobra ordered a HID Kit from them, supposed to be direct fit, whether he ordered it wrong or they shipped it wrong it was not direct fit. They corrected the issue, he sent the kit back on his dime and it took them 4 more business days than originally quoted for him to receive the proper kit. Take that for what it's worth.

In regards to the bulb discussion, one of my factory bulbs went on my 02. I got some cheapo random rice brand off of Amazon 2 bulbs for 24$ lol. It was a PITA to change them, but I got 6000k and I am extremely impressed with the clarity. Haven't driven at night in inclement weather yet though but I don't see a big problem at all.

 

You have a very good eye that's why. Imagine yourself getting a pair of headlights retrofitted with good OEM projectors...you'll be needing sun glasses at night

 

The reason you were impressed with the clarity is because hid bulbs have a certain lifespan to them as do all other bulbs. By the time the hid bulb has reached half its lifespan its brightness is almost half that of when it was brand new.

 

I have stock hid bulbs in my car and 3000k fogs no issues. My wife HAD to have hid's in her trailblazer I think they are 8k and I absolutely hate driving her truck at night I can see further in front of memwith the high beams on vs high and low at the same time. I hope the bulbs burn out soon just so I can out them back to stock. Looks cool but where I live we have deer all the time near my house and you can't see them

 

I'll tell you, the first time you drive thru a rainstorm at night with 8k bulbs, you will instantly regret it. Higher kelvin rating definately does not mean higher light output. They will also attract attention you might not really want either.

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Good point. I did read something about that. I think it's also important to mention I ended up with the 6000k lamps not because I got then by number but because I wanted to avoid the ricey ultra blue look so I opted for the 'diamond white'
I also wet sanded and compounded the headlamp lenses too. The cut off line on the lights are very sharp and anything reflective including highway cops that sit on the side of the road in the dark stick right out lol.
I have poor vision to begin with so at midnight and after reading this thread I decided to go for a ride in the woods lol and all is good. I'm pleased with 6000k I wouldn't go any higher that's just my taste. I will be going with 3000-3500k fogs when I buy the replacement assembly and bracket kit from Courtesy

 

Really???? Adjusting the lights makes all the difference in the world....I drive on some really dark unlight highways in the boonies of Texas and Louisiana and I have ditch to ditch light on our 3 lane highways! Once out of Houston headed west and off our 8 lane (per direction) highway (I10) Sealy and all those places are dark as hell and my lights provide excellent coverage for everyone to turn off their lights and follow me! Lumens wise 3000K is the highest since you wanna speak of best coverage! 4300K is boring and is what is available as OEM....So maybe adding 4300K foglights would really provide the best....But ppl wanna personalize their rides and 6000K is a solid good coverage when speaking HID with a bit aof color! My 8000K was my preference and with both headlights and foglights on coverage is awesome with no voids nor pockets! Remember your foglights are adjustable!

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OK...finally somone came to back me up LOL. My 8ks look exactly like that!

 

As do mine and I've adjusted everything. They still suck lol And they strain my eyes. Maybe I'm just too used to driving with my retro.

 

Well not all HID kits are equal too each other! In the recent 2 or more yrs the EL Cheapos Chinese brands are all over the market for a little of nothing....I invested into an Xtralight bulbs and equipment which is a little pricey but very reliable, durable and has a awesome customer support ....Maybe you need glasses, my world at night is well lit and I rarely ever use my high beams....maybe 2-4 times a yr!

 

I use DDM stuff on both the 5.5 and my 4th gen with the retro. No complaints here on their quality.

I do need glasses but I dont think that'll help with how everything is lit.

8000K puts out 1000 less lumens than 4300-5000K at 35W.

 

You must be in mid thirty already....don't worry Chris I have the same problem. ( just joking Chris...just joking...). Seriously anything higher than 6000K, I found myself squinting at night, especually when it pour down rains. Heck I replaced the clear lens on the FX35 retro just o get rid of the blue color since it was very distacting at night.

 

I'm 20 lol

6000K is fine when it's not raining. I'm trying to get my hands on CBI's ATM.

 

Any light looks bad when you stare at it like that lol, If you saw them side by side at night you wouldnt be saying all this. The reason you think they are good is because you have them and its all you know. They are bright....just not the brightest

 

If you can read english properly and understand, I never said that 8000k was the brightest.......But side by side, I still I haven't had anyone pull up next to me while driving nor setting still that overpowered my lights yet....My setup is good for me and that's all that matters in my Vehicle....My choices were 6000K or 8000K and the light output was close to close to each other and the 8000k color was my preference! This isn't same 10,000K or 12,000K setup with all color no lights,....I see that all the time,......my lights are functional and vision is no problem!

 

I've installed some DDM and was very pleased with their quality, this Xtralight feature is what sold me.......

http://www.xtralights.com/waterdemo.aspx

 

You'd be surprised but a lot of aftermarket kits are waterproof. I'm not sure if DDM's are or aren't but that doesn't matter much to me anymore. I've realized that my car is never going to be submerged in that much water and if it were to be, there'd be bigger things to worry about than my HID kits lol

Edit: Those Xtralight kits are too damn expensive lol

 

Ditto on this...Never had no one OUTPOWER my lights down a dark street.....I think people may be confusing 8ks with them DEEP SEA BLUE 10k bulbs or useless PURPLE lights I see on the street. 8k might not be the brightest...but they are pretty DAM bright! I even have people flashing their lights at me coming the opposite way sometimes because they think I have my High beams on........

 

Umm no, there flashing you because the scattered beam of the intense blue light actually blinds them from seeing the roadway.

Pretty much a huge safety issue for the on coming driver.

Same applies for high beams - Hello your lights are blinding me!!!

Why don't people get this simple issue?

 

OK, so the 6ks dont do this?

 

Ok, this is getting out of control from what I read.

The OP has 2000 SE ( based on his profile) and he asked if the anyone has good experience with PnP kit.

ALL headlights, it doesn't matter if they are LED, candle lights, burning coal, OEM HID, PnP, etc, produce glare. All colors produce glare also 3000K to 30000K. It's not about the color of the light. I don't care if If see someone with blue, yellow, pink lights that's their preference. The issue is the amount/how much of glare and the direction of it. This applies to ALL headlights not just the PnP in halogen based headlight. I've seen people with OEM HID projector that aim the tree top too, so for all fairness it's depend on individual as long as you don't compromise safety to others then you do what tickle you. Even in the OEM HID, they purposely produce glare to see street sign or freeway sign BUT it is very much controlled.

The halogen reflector based headlights reflect/scatter lights in much broader range than projector based headlights do. When you put HID, which is a very intense light source, to a reflector based headlight, you get ALOT more lights everywhere except on the road. This is what you are seeing (I know..I know..even the D2R reflector based HID light isn't helping either. It is still performing poorly), is it brighter absolutely, is it brigther on the road no way. It's the Physics that comes in play here. This is why the HID bulbs need to work in the projector bowl rather than the reflector bowl. The projector bowl takes the lights from the light source and DIRECT it to an image plane which is your cut off shield which then be collected by lens and reflects it to a very nice beam pattern. If putting PnP kit is the way to increase lumens as well as improving safety to other, ALL new cars would have this and It will be DOT approved. Even with the 02-03 OEM Maxima HID stock, the bulb, D2R has special coating that block the lights on the bottom of the capsule, why is that, is to limit the lights that will be reflected in upward position (glare).

Here is what I'm talking about. In this picture you can see the guy standing in front of the door of his house (this is 120 feet or so), you can also see the lights from my car about 1.5-2 feet away from his eye level. There is a very disctinc seperation between dark and light. Now, you put a PnP kit in halogen based headlight and aim it at the same height, you will light up his face and the top of the house. Which scenario is better for the guy standing in front of the door?

Hope this helps to understand what the whole argument is all about.

 

Besides the obvious visibility concerns I can't see why anyone would want the look of 8k or higher bulbs? When I see cars coming up behind me or from the other direction with blue it just looks stupid.