5th gen Off Topic Thread (Official Ghustle thread v1)
My best run was 46.6x. Tuner's best was 46.3x. And merovi's best was 45.xx. Times haven't been posted online yet.
Last edited by Rochester; Jun 4, 2012 at 06:16 AM.
He does have some very wide, quality rubber. But the suspension is stock. More importantly, he has a damaged RSW end-link. So I'm thinking driver-mod. To his credit, Tuner is a seriously aggressive driver.
No, we didn't even think about it. Besides, we registered individually, so that would have been awkward. And regardless of my history, the Max is 100% his car. That's just the way things are.
Perfect understanding of Auto-X, right there. Well said, Bob. I'm sure I could have shaved a few seconds off if I stopped drifting and started carving the corners better. Hindsight.
My best run was 46.6x. Tuner's best was 46.3x. And merovi's best was 45.xx. Times haven't been posted online yet.
No, we didn't even think about it. Besides, we registered individually, so that would have been awkward. And regardless of my history, the Max is 100% his car. That's just the way things are.
Perfect understanding of Auto-X, right there. Well said, Bob. I'm sure I could have shaved a few seconds off if I stopped drifting and started carving the corners better. Hindsight.
My best run was 46.6x. Tuner's best was 46.3x. And merovi's best was 45.xx. Times haven't been posted online yet.
#hauff
Makes me wonder about aackshun and his setup because he said he has a car that oversteers.....4th and 5th gens dont oversteer they understeer. Something is wrong there. The rear beam is setup with a slight toe-in. That can be good on multi-link RWD car, on a FWD sedan.....
Its either one of these 2 things or a combination of both. He is running very hard rear springs, or stupid high rear tire pressure. While it may seem great you got oversteer, effectively you are slowing the car down especially with high tire pressure. That just gets rid of all traction in the rear.
Unless he has done the beam bend and we dont know about it......
Its either one of these 2 things or a combination of both. He is running very hard rear springs, or stupid high rear tire pressure. While it may seem great you got oversteer, effectively you are slowing the car down especially with high tire pressure. That just gets rid of all traction in the rear.
Unless he has done the beam bend and we dont know about it......
8k Front 6K rear
Kuhmo V710s 225/45 17s Front / Kumho ASX 225/45/17 rear
Poly Bushings Everywhere
Car is lowered about 1.5", whatever has the control arms 5-10* below parallel to the ground.
MSR Houston Setup #1
22 PSI front / 38 Rear (Cold front, and warm rear)
14 or so clicks up front / 2 from full stiff in the rear, both springs compressed 8-10mm, can't remember exactly.
MSR Houston Setup #2
Same as above, but front tire PSI ran up to 25 warm, I kept it there, car would not handle the back end curvy portion of the track kept fighting me, so I said fck it and had one of my genius Forza ideas... Disconnect the front sway bar, car felt terrible at first but then I realized how soft the struts were.... Turned em up considerably and regained control of the front end and gained oversteerabilities

That track was my bish the rest of the day

Grand Sport Speedway
Same, but softened the rear.... and I don't like this track.
No Problem Raceway.... The death of the red car....
This track was very slippery, it felt like the rear of the car was on trays, my thread has the details on getting the rear end under control there.
Or he has his rear sway bar set up tighter than a tick's azz...
It's not that hard to make a front drive car oversteer. My old Audi used to do that if I pitched it hard into a tight turn and lift the throttle. I'd have that bish at full opposite lock, and then mash down the gas to pull out of it once I got past the apex of the turn. And that was with the factory suspension.
I used to get my SVT Focus to do the same thing. It's actually quite controllable once you get the hang of doing it.
It's not that hard to make a front drive car oversteer. My old Audi used to do that if I pitched it hard into a tight turn and lift the throttle. I'd have that bish at full opposite lock, and then mash down the gas to pull out of it once I got past the apex of the turn. And that was with the factory suspension.
I used to get my SVT Focus to do the same thing. It's actually quite controllable once you get the hang of doing it.
Best. Mod. Ever.
....if you have coilovers
AW CHIT 'CEF GON' BE FAST

good luck.
after all this time and hopla about the 3.0 you are trying to go 3.5? b1tch. You best pull that 3.0 and install some VH45 pistons, up that damn compression:https://maxima.org/forums/all-motor/...ion-ratio.html
Get to work b1tch.



Mawnin
good luck.
after all this time and hopla about the 3.0 you are trying to go 3.5? b1tch. You best pull that 3.0 and install some VH45 pistons, up that damn compression:https://maxima.org/forums/all-motor/...ion-ratio.html
Get to work b1tch.

maintenance question...how much more difficult is it to change the belts on a I35 (3.5) than on a 5th gen max (3.0)? mom needs the belts and coolant hoses changed on her I35...is it pretty much the same, anything i should be weary of? (noobish question, but figured i better ask first)
maintenance question...how much more difficult is it to change the belts on a I35 (3.5) than on a 5th gen max (3.0)? mom needs the belts and coolant hoses changed on her I35...is it pretty much the same, anything i should be weary of? (noobish question, but figured i better ask first)
I used the same parts when m 3.5's took a poop, borrowed from my 95 til I bought new hardware. This was for the AC/Amt. Not the PS though.
OAN:
I think I might go back to the 3" MAF, losing too much timing with the LRMAF. Either that or someone should buy my UTEC so I can haz Haltech.
For the PS?
I used the same parts when m 3.5's took a poop, borrowed from my 95 til I bought new hardware. This was for the AC/Amt. Not the PS though.
OAN:
I think I might go back to the 3" MAF, losing too much timing with the LRMAF. Either that or someone should buy my UTEC so I can haz Haltech.
I used the same parts when m 3.5's took a poop, borrowed from my 95 til I bought new hardware. This was for the AC/Amt. Not the PS though.
OAN:
I think I might go back to the 3" MAF, losing too much timing with the LRMAF. Either that or someone should buy my UTEC so I can haz Haltech.
I know right? What a ricer
The tires helped, I'm sure. They're a street tire to the fullest though.
As far as the agressive part, I think I was actually more reserved than either of you

While I thought I'd want to go out there and just bang for fun, once on the track, I wanted to get faster, period. And agressive driving doesn't really net faster times it seems we all learnt that. Slow and Gingerly nets times equal or better, at least, in the street cars it seemed to.
Rochester said it well, you did a great job out there, I watched your lines from the grid (as well as you can from far away), and you were trying lines, entry changes, etc. You really did a great job keeping that Maxima flat around the track, credit to suspension mods and a torque link, etc for out of the corner briskness and response, but you put it down out there.
There's been a lot of talk about the cars, and I can tell you guys the one biggest thing I learnt out there yesterday. The Driver > The Car.
When times and cars get posted that won't be hard to illustrate. Things like a C5 Vette that finally started pushing it near the last few laps but was still only getting 44.xx.
And a '95 Neon with nicer tires pulling 45 no problem.
There was also a GT-R there. I don't know his numbers on the last 4 runs, but the first 3 only netted about 46.xx as a best time IIRC
Actually, the Maxima rear beam does incredibly well when pushed to these limits. Always has. It's the slower speed stuff and over all DD 'feel' that sucks. But when pushed, it performs, Merovi putting down the best time was no surpise at all to me, in fact I was going to bet Rochester that Merovi would beat him, but never did.
Ryan and I had almost brand new rubber, but that's not good either actually, in most cases it's worse in that application.
I can say this with some confidence, Rochester could easily have broken 45 seconds with a few more runs, EASILY. I'd suspect closer to 44 seconds without much trouble.
He only turned T/C off on the LAST run. His car is fast, actually, if he'd have had T/C off the whole tiem, I have no doubt his times WOULD have been better than Merovis Maxima.
Boy, was I wrong.
By the time I learned my lesson, turned off the traction control, and started trying to lower my times... it was too late and the day was over.And hey, look at that. You were writing pretty much the same thing I was just now.

Nice.
I know what you mean Mo.
Actually, the Maxima rear beam does incredibly well when pushed to these limits. Always has. It's the slower speed stuff and over all DD 'feel' that sucks. But when pushed, it performs, Merovi putting down the best time was no surpise at all to me, in fact I was going to bet Rochester that Merovi would beat him, but never did.
All this talk on autox.... Man I wanna go now......
Lets get the red car running first, that way I can have the girl drive the white-mare as I whip the red car around open header
I'm suuuuuure they'd love that
BTW, same track, same wheels... The white car is a full damn 1 second slower.... Something is up with having drag radials on that car, because a 6MT and 3" catback aint responsible for 1 full second and 6mph on the trap
Lets get the red car running first, that way I can have the girl drive the white-mare as I whip the red car around open header

I'm suuuuuure they'd love that

BTW, same track, same wheels... The white car is a full damn 1 second slower.... Something is up with having drag radials on that car, because a 6MT and 3" catback aint responsible for 1 full second and 6mph on the trap
That's all we really need.
But you have no use for that... Coilovers w/ Camber plates are all you'd ever need....

If I can find something even partially equal locally (within an hour or two), I'm in. This was a lot of fun and I want to do it again.
I cannot wait to get the coilovers, sway bar link, camber arms, etc on this car and go again. No doubt it will be night and day

OHHHHH. AND here's Proof that ROCHESTER actually does more than clean his car! Gettin' Greasy Under the Hood

All this talk on autox.... Man I wanna go now......
Lets get the red car running first, that way I can have the girl drive the white-mare as I whip the red car around open header
I'm suuuuuure they'd love that
BTW, same track, same wheels... The white car is a full damn 1 second slower.... Something is up with having drag radials on that car, because a 6MT and 3" catback aint responsible for 1 full second and 6mph on the trap
Lets get the red car running first, that way I can have the girl drive the white-mare as I whip the red car around open header

I'm suuuuuure they'd love that

BTW, same track, same wheels... The white car is a full damn 1 second slower.... Something is up with having drag radials on that car, because a 6MT and 3" catback aint responsible for 1 full second and 6mph on the trap

As for pictures..... nope, spectator line was WAY too far away, and not without reason, Spock didn't get close enough to get a decent shot. He also didn't take video, I can't offer any reason why he didn't that part I'm quite disappointed with....
My camera didn't have enough zoom on the standard lens to get a good pic but video would have been great. Oh well, I guess.
I did get a couple quick shots of Rochester's car and Merovi's car Saturday night while hanging out, at least.




My camera didn't have enough zoom on the standard lens to get a good pic but video would have been great. Oh well, I guess.
I did get a couple quick shots of Rochester's car and Merovi's car Saturday night while hanging out, at least.




-Corrected baytown
14.964 @ 92.664 MPH
-Corrected Sealy (Drag radials)
15.461 @ 90.795 MPH
Red Car
-Corrected baytown
14.744 @ 92.444 MPH (Drag radials + Car died after the 1000 ft)
-Corrected Sealy
14.665 @ 94.937 MPH
Red car only different mods are... 6MT, LW and US Crank Pulley, and a 3" catback.
OMG, Tuner.
You caught me adding Liquid Schwartz to the G. Dammit.
Nice pictures you took Saturday night. Looking at them, I'm thinking I got at least 1 or 2 seconds off my runs by virtue of the how shiny my car is. What with the low wind resistance and all...
So much polish.
You caught me adding Liquid Schwartz to the G. Dammit.Nice pictures you took Saturday night. Looking at them, I'm thinking I got at least 1 or 2 seconds off my runs by virtue of the how shiny my car is. What with the low wind resistance and all...
So much polish.
Last edited by Rochester; Jun 4, 2012 at 08:26 AM.





They even use the same idler pulley.
at Merovi