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Old May 17, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Wow... What a heavy flywheel... Wtf was nissan thinking by putting this in that car. No wonder stock 6MT cars dyno so low.

Does anyone have dynos of stock vs LW flywheels in 6MT maximas?
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Originally Posted by essential1
Wow... What a heavy flywheel... Wtf was nissan thinking by putting this in that car. No wonder stock 6MT cars dyno so low.

Does anyone have dynos of stock vs LW flywheels in 6MT maximas?
its about 40lbs lol... i remember getting mines delivered and my hands just drop lol
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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe
Grammar concepts like that are hard for people. If it sounds weird then most likely it is bad grammar. The internet has downgraded grammar quality immensely. I chose to just laugh at the joke lol. The sentence started off with price. Which is singular. It wouldn't matter if they were talking about one or more sets. It doesn't matter here in a grammar sense. The price or the cost IS too high whereas prices or costs ARE too high. You would still say the price of every set of coilovers on the earth is too high
unfortunately nobody really speak in perfect english with correct pronunciation and puntuations so im not sure if the internet is the only one to be blamed... i just think sometimes people are just to critical and tense... the way its said is a part of the humor... its said like somebody not being extremely critical about speech say it... how many times do you see a captioned pic with internet lingo?? "IDK" is not an actual word nor is "lol" but we all use it... enjoy the pic and carry on

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Prices are high for the consumer i admit but look at the price WE are going to pay for them and then go check out the prices on the net for the same product. Better yet ill let yall in on something back when i had issues getting a megan exhaust for my car from a vendor on here took 6 months in the process the vendor told me to call megan directly which i did well what ended up happening was that i purchased 6 exhaust from them for less than $200 per unit plus freight and i recieved them before the order from the vendor on here so my point is every vendor is making excess profit on us for no reason thats why prices are so high.in the future i will if my plans go right setup with many of the manufactures and be able to provide our community with true and fair pricing
Old May 17, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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Old May 17, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by essential1
Wow... What a heavy flywheel... Wtf was nissan thinking by putting this in that car. No wonder stock 6MT cars dyno so low.

Does anyone have dynos of stock vs LW flywheels in 6MT maximas?
You dont need speed
Old May 17, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
its about 40lbs lol... i remember getting mines delivered and my hands just drop lol
I swear nissan engineers were sitting there thinking, "uh... The car is a little faster than what we expected. What can we do to slow it down a bit? I know! Let's add a **** ton of dead weight to the flywheel!"
Old May 17, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cjandura
Prices are high for the consumer i admit but look at the price WE are going to pay for them and then go check out the prices on the net for the same product. Better yet ill let yall in on something back when i had issues getting a megan exhaust for my car from a vendor on here took 6 months in the process the vendor told me to call megan directly which i did well what ended up happening was that i purchased 6 exhaust from them for less than $200 per unit plus freight and i recieved them before the order from the vendor on here so my point is every vendor is making excess profit on us for no reason thats why prices are so high.in the future i will if my plans go right setup with many of the manufactures and be able to provide our community with true and fair pricing
or orgers cheap skate pricing lmao...
Old May 17, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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Cjandura for president!
i agree, he helped me out more than any of these dumb **** presidents have so #eh why not lmao
Originally Posted by essential1
I swear nissan engineers were sitting there thinking, "uh... The car is a little faster than what we expected. What can we do to slow it down a bit? I know! Let's add a **** ton of dead weight to the flywheel!"
Old May 17, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by essential1
I swear nissan engineers were sitting there thinking, "uh... The car is a little faster than what we expected. What can we do to slow it down a bit? I know! Let's add a **** ton of dead weight to the flywheel!"
Get some of it milled out and rebalanced
Old May 17, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by essential1
I swear nissan engineers were sitting there thinking, "uh... The car is a little faster than what we expected. What can we do to slow it down a bit? I know! Let's add a **** ton of dead weight to the flywheel!"
Well get a lightweight crank pulley to even it out
Old May 17, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by essential1
Wow... What a heavy flywheel... Wtf was nissan thinking by putting this in that car. No wonder stock 6MT cars dyno so low.

Does anyone have dynos of stock vs LW flywheels in 6MT maximas?
Dual mass. Awesome but heavy.


And Dyno on a CAST iron flywheel compared to a 14 lb fidanza would be the same.

Rotational weight change doesn't net actual HP gains, just speed gains.

This is the same reason putting lightweight wheels on makes no difference on a dyno WHP reading. It does make a signifigant difference, but doesn't actually produce HP numbers.
Old May 17, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cjandura
Well get a lightweight crank pulley to even it out
lol doubt it would help
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waaaaaaaaaay too many damn LED's to choose from. Exactly why I stayed away for so long
Old May 17, 2012 | 04:20 PM
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waaaaaaaaaay too many damn LED's to choose from. Exactly why I stayed away for so long
Superbright,cree just look at tuner and my writeups.
Old May 17, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cjandura
You dont need speed
Nope. Just really need a new motor.

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Get some of it milled out and rebalanced
Not using the 6MT FL
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Dual mass. Awesome but heavy.


And Dyno on a CAST iron flywheel compared to a 14 lb fidanza would be the same.

Rotational weight change doesn't net actual HP gains, just speed gains.

This is the same reason putting lightweight wheels on makes no difference on a dyno WHP reading. It does make a signifigant difference, but doesn't actually produce HP numbers.

Yea, I'm not much of a dyno person so I wouldn't know. I just know what makes the car faster and what doesn't. Whatever the dyno says is good to know. But I could care less. Just curiosity at this point.
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Yea thats where I went. I want to get these, http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...%2FWLED-x4.htm. just dont know if 4 is to few and I should get 6 and 32 or 90 degree beam pattern. I dont know this crazy talk
Old May 17, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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Gonna go be a ricer and Plastidip the chunk of my quarter panel that's missing to hopefully slow down any rust and decay that might happen from it.
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The narrower the beam pattern the more hotspotting you will notice if the LED is used for backlighting (climate control, gauge cluster). The wider beam pattern is better in these applications. 360* is the BEST beam pattern for backlighting, as there will be 0 hotspots.

For indicator LEDs like the pushbutton climate control and window switches, the beam pattern angle is relatively irrelevant, since you are looking at the very "top" of the LED in these cases.

If you put LEDs in your climate control indicators or window switches, they are hella bright...so what I did to mine is scuff the LED with sandpaper all around the lens and apply an even coat of white-out (I used white paint pen, but it's the same thing). This will still give you the color, but reduce the brightness to non-blinding levels (but still brighter than stock).
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Originally Posted by essential1
I swear nissan engineers were sitting there thinking, "uh... The car is a little faster than what we expected. What can we do to slow it down a bit? I know! Let's add a **** ton of dead weight to the flywheel!"
FYI; A heavy flywheel can have advantages. It adds rotational inertia, which impedes changes in RPM. The advantage is it makes the engine run smoother w/better firing balance. The disadvantage is the engine won't rev up quickly with high rotational inertia. That said, once the flywheel is accelerated (light or heavy) to a constant rpm the advantage is with the heavier wheel since the higher rotational inertia equals more stored energy in rotating mass. Good for launching a vehicle without bogging the engine, since the heavy flywheel does more work than a light flywheel at takeoff.
For example; back in my 4x4 racing days we ran a 65# flywheel for that purpose. At hill-climbs & sand-drags, when that big flywheel was revved up at the line, the truck (F250) launched hard. Throwing huge roostertails of dirt w/4 32"diax24"w paddle-tires & locker diffs. The announcer at the events used to warn the audience to stand back because of it.
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Da heck with go fast i just want some BBS 18x9 35offset in gold and leather seats and folding mirrors
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Gonna go be a ricer and Plastidip the chunk of my quarter panel that's missing to hopefully slow down any rust and decay that might happen from it.
Sorry, but the rusting happens from the inside out. I tried the same thing with rust converter/sealer. Didn't make a difference.
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Old May 17, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BobPezz
FYI; A heavy flywheel can have advantages. It adds rotational inertia, which impedes changes in RPM. The advantage is it makes the engine run smoother w/better firing balance. The disadvantage is the engine won't rev up quickly with high rotational inertia. That said, once the flywheel is accelerated (light or heavy) to a constant rpm the advantage is with the heavier wheel since the higher rotational inertia equals more stored energy in rotating mass. Good for launching a vehicle without bogging the engine, since the heavy flywheel does more work than a light flywheel at takeoff.
For example; back in my 4x4 racing days we ran a 65# flywheel for that purpose. At hill-climbs & sand-drags, when that big flywheel was revved up at the line, the truck (F250) launched hard. Throwing huge roostertails of dirt w/4 32"diax24"w paddle-tires & locker diffs. The announcer at the events used to warn the audience to stand back because of it.
this...i believe u loose a lil top end with LWF... but get a lil quicker revs
Old May 17, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Here's something for CJandura & others who feel the right to bear arms is important. I don't own firearms, but do defend the right of choice.

Attorney General Holder says, "WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO POSSESS GUNS."

TAKES 10 SECONDS ... DO IT AND PASS IT ON.

Guess they were not happy with the poll results the first time, so USA today is running another one...Vote now...
Attorney General Eric Holder, has already said this is one of his major issues. He does not believe the 2nd Amendment gives individuals the right to bear arms. This takes literally 2 clicks to complete. Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today. Then pass the link on to all the pro-gun folks you know. Hopefully the results will be published later this month.

Here's what you need to do:
First - vote. Click to vote:
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Voted...
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this...i believe u loose a lil top end with LWF... but get a lil quicker revs
Correct! It takes time to get the heavy wheel spinning, but it resists slowing down better. The LWF will spin up faster but slows down easier too.
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Voted...
I assume you voted in favor of the right to arm Behrs! (OUCH couldn't resist)
Old May 17, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

...which was relevant in the 1700's. No way is it even remotely applicable today. Handguns should be so heavily regulated as to be illegal for 99.9% of the public.

Voted.
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Originally Posted by BobPezz
FYI; A heavy flywheel can have advantages. It adds rotational inertia, which impedes changes in RPM. The advantage is it makes the engine run smoother w/better firing balance. The disadvantage is the engine won't rev up quickly with high rotational inertia. That said, once the flywheel is accelerated (light or heavy) to a constant rpm the advantage is with the heavier wheel since the higher rotational inertia equals more stored energy in rotating mass. Good for launching a vehicle without bogging the engine, since the heavy flywheel does more work than a light flywheel at takeoff.
For example; back in my 4x4 racing days we ran a 65# flywheel for that purpose. At hill-climbs & sand-drags, when that big flywheel was revved up at the line, the truck (F250) launched hard. Throwing huge roostertails of dirt w/4 32"diax24"w paddle-tires & locker diffs. The announcer at the events used to warn the audience to stand back because of it.
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this...i believe u loose a lil top end with LWF... but get a lil quicker revs
I know, but JP haz LWFW so LWFW = win

On a serious note though, I'm just keeping my 5MT not because of the FW, but because it will be better from a financial standpoint. For me to go through with the 6MT, I still need the starter, both mounts, shifter assembly, cables, cable bracket and the tranny.

To get this done with the 5MT, the only thing I have to do is mod the flywheel to accept the 6mt crank trigger.
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Vote now or loose your right to defend yourself against radioactive mutant trailerpark zombies!!
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I assume you voted in favor of the right to arm Behrs! (OUCH couldn't resist)
Yes I did vote in favor. I've owned several guns in the past. A few of my favorites that I owned...

S&W 629 .44 magnum with an unfluted cylinder exactly like this one...



Benelli Nova 12 gauge with the rifled sabot slug barrel...



Weatherby Vanguard in .300 Wby Magnum...

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I assume you voted in favor of the right to arm Behrs! (OUCH couldn't resist)
now this was excellent.... 10/10 my fiance just looked at me crazy like WTF!!!
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Handguns should be so heavily regulated as to be illegal for 99.9% of the public.
Why?
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

...which was relevant in the 1700's. No way is it even remotely applicable today. Handguns should be so heavily regulated as to be illegal for 99.9% of the public.

Voted.
You Sir have lost your spot in my emergency situation compound
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I assume you voted in favor of the right to arm Behrs! (OUCH couldn't resist)
Old May 17, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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You Sir have lost your spot in my emergency situation compound
Count me in!

When I had my Benelli slug gun, I could get 3 inch groups at 100 yards WITHOUT a scope.
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Why?
Because rifles and shotguns are used for hunting, which is fine. But handguns are used for personal protection or aggression. Their purpose isn't to shoot game, it's to shoot people.

The second amendment wasn't written with handguns in mind. Nor was it written for assault weapons. It was written so that an armed citizenry could defend the people. (See "militia") You know, before there were State Troopers, and a National Guard, and Marines.

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You Sir have lost your spot in my emergency situation compound
That's OK, man. I don't want a spot in your bomb shelter... which leaves more dehydrated lasagna for you and yours, so it's all good.
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I know, but JP haz LWFW so LWFW = win

On a serious note though, I'm just keeping my 5MT not because of the FW, but because it will be better from a financial standpoint. For me to go through with the 6MT, I still need the starter, both mounts, shifter assembly, cables, cable bracket and the tranny.

To get this done with the 5MT, the only thing I have to do is mod the flywheel to accept the 6mt crank trigger.
hey essential i added you to our group here in MD.. there is a buddy of mines parting out his 6th gen right now ill tag u in it... go on FB now modafukka lol
Old May 17, 2012 | 06:09 PM
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While I see where you are coming from ROC, but when you live in an area where when the proper authorities are called, they take their sweet time to get there. Your own personal handgun can be the difference between you and your family's life or the life of some scum bag criminal.
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hey essential i added you to our group here in MD.. there is a buddy of mines parting out his 6th gen right now ill tag u in it... go on FB now modafukka lol
Ahhh sheeeet... I aint been on FB in like 7 months. Here we go!



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