actionbstard

First of I don't trust dyno result nor should you.
Yes I have been in this business for lots of years.
But I don't think you should trust forum dyno results for a few reasons.
I am all about honor.I am helping a friend and fellow racer.Thats all.
All the information here is given with out any business oportunity what so ever.
You can install a pvc pipe strap on a filter and add race fuel and bam.
You got amaizing dyno results.
Not claiming anyone here does it but it has been done before.
So as many other forms to improve a single dyno sheet whith out diong jack.
So please be careful who you decide to fallow.

Just finished the mold for my friends 5th gen.


Yes it will be a Plug-n-play.




I'll keep you guys updated.

MaxFiyah

what does this do?

TallTom

I have no idea what this is or what it does. Does it suck?

Maxterror

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It sucks stuff, in case you need things sucked

Chris Gregg

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I'm pretty freak'n good at Tetris. But I just can't see where that peice fits.

NmexMAX

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Further details/description would help.

actionbstard

My apologies.
Replaces your oem intake filter,box and ducts.
Sadly there is not even one good intake system for the 5th gen.
Those Aluminum ones being a joke we wanted to offer him the best.
Aluminum is the worse heat resistance metal in the market.
I use it just for weight reduction.
This is why we are only modifying after the maf sensor.


He does some track time every now and then.
I felt bad for him so I decided to help out.
Maybe there is someone here who needs help as well.
This is why I posted This topic.
No Need to flame.

This is the only Turbo Suction kit I sell. Only for RB Engines.

My car.

So I hope you understand that this is new for me working on V6s.

Chris Gregg

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That's actually what I thought this was, but still cannot visualize it. I think it's a decent idea and cosmetically the shape looks clean. But, can we expect before/after dynos? Can we have db before/after readings? Definately need install images and a more 3-Dimensional view of what you've done. Very interesting.

Flanker84

How this fits? I can't... Oh God my brain, it hurts!


*Meanwhile in the Forest...*

actionbstard

The results will be posted after koemotorsports gives approval.
They have all rights to this product and if approved then will be given a part number and QC APPROVAL.
This means that you will buy it from authorized dealers and have access to warranty if applied etc.
I will offer the full details along with dyno results, images,etc hopefully in this Topic.
If not I will post a link for all info.

But let's not jump the gun yet.
It still has a long way to go.

TallTom

I was wondering if you can you post a pic of it in a Max? I cannot visualize in the car.

EDIT - I see you need approval. Hopefully it goes through.

actionbstard

I will update as we see significant progress.
But we managed to find the coolest spot of the engine and we went from there.
I have high hopes it will work.
But sometimes things don't go as planned.
So far it's looking good.
Now if results don't show increase in VE?
Then this MS-CF5 will end up in the garbage.

TunerMaxima3000

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I still dont get it.

CMax03

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You didn't explain much.....just kinda thru it out there!!!!! WTF is MS?
CF-5 (Carbon fiber-5 what)????? You're making a carbon fiber cold air feed air intake box......Will the battery need to be relocated? Please explain your hints suck!

actionbstard

The MS-CF5 (Massive Suction kit -Carbon Fiber for 5gen)
The MS-FG5 (Massive Suction kit- Fiberglass for 5 gen)
It will be available in fiberglass low cost and 3k dry carbon.

No need to relocate anything.
Making it a true plug and play.

If you have a battery relocation set up will still work just fine.
We are debating if including the Air Filter or not.
If we don't include the Air Filter then the price will be significantly lower.
Also the brand on Filters.
We have had a bad experience with K&N in our VQ35DE G35.
Like I said it still has a long way to go.

The picture on this topic the mold is upside down.
What you see is the bottom.

Chris Gregg

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Makes more sense. Not a lot more. Just more.

If the goal was to establish some interest and demand for the product, all it's done for me is provide a moderately interesting topic in an otherwise boring period within the 5th gen forums.

You're showing us and telling us about the cow. I don't care about the cow. I want to see, taste, and smell the ribeye!

Mmmmm, steak. Eh, I'd settle for meatloaf. Got any meatloaf?

DennisMik

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At this point, count me out.

TunerMaxima3000

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One of the worst product launches I've seen in a while,

Turn it over, take some pics, what in the ef is the point of this thing and where are you putting it.

Are you running it like an 'icebox' and feeding it with air from a different spot? Or is this just a box around a filter to act like a heat sheild? If so, I anticipate epic fail in contrast to the stock setup.

cjandura

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I thought it was a molded speaker box!if thats the case you have a better chance of cutting a hole in the hood and running some dryer duct up out of it and putting a filter on the end!but only after venting your pcv system out thru the wheel wells.

The Wizard

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Would have been nice to know from the beginning.... but really no one wants to see the bottom just yet...Should've spent the 5 minutes to throw it in the engine bay, take a pic and show us a top view

I find it amazing that we have to pull the most basic and elementary information out of you. Even your thread title meant nothing until just a couple of posts ago...As a salesman, you need to put yourself in our shoes; you know everything about the product, and we know nothing.

foodmanry

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Why did you even start the thread if this has such a long ways to go?

Are you putting feelers out to determine interest level? A few pictures on/in the car and a more complete description of the benefits would go a long way.

I almost want to say this has Plane Crash written on it, but I'll hold that judgement for now.

cjandura

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Do you think?? Hence my comment

MrEous

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I agree with above. Way too soon if you can't show details of what it looks like installed or dyno results. Not enough info with as many ADD people on forums nowadays.

Chris Gregg

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A-D-D? Some people say I'm A-D-........


Oh Look, another Planecrash thread!

Fakie J Farkerton

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You just had me check the OP. LOL
I was excited and about to round up everyone.

Chris Gregg

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Kidding aside, I'm genuinely looking forward to someone being willing to put up the time and effort to do something for our cars! Due to the frustration of being given micro bursts of info, recent posts are little else then for entertainment purposes only. At least until the OP can come and lay everything out on the table.

CMax03

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Pretty cool how yall are doing it.....Make it big enough to place a 6" intake filter in it.....how's the air being fed? I was gonna build a carbon fiber one about 4 years ago, but I figured I would do a sealed heatshield with dual 3" air ram tubes feeding cool dense air to the intake filter behind the heatshield! I might try shaping something like that right where it needs to fit......using a trash bag and some expandable foam....my wheels are definitely turning!If a 6" air filter can fit inside with plenty of room around it for smooth air flow...count me in!!!!! I can still feed your box with twin tube ram air.....GL!

actionbstard

The purpose of this topic will mainly be helping our fellow Nissan brotherhood.
I thought they will let me build it and not market it.
Personally I think it will not have massive sales.
No I'm no salesmen.
I work at their prototype division.
Which I'm in charge of making our cars faster and productive.
Like using a afk to allow the efi self learning capabilities which will limit the calibrations needed, pushing a 6 cylinder to run 28psi (700hp) on 93octane only.
Etc.
I make things happen like any other builder.

But let's get things clear before we move on.

Classic example.
You see a mold in that picture.
I see engineering.
You see probably 30 bucks of composites.
I can assure you it's pass the 1k.
Developing is the most expensive part.
Like I developed a catchcan that will process all oil being fed into the intake and deliver just plain water.
As a methanol kit will do with out a sprayer.

So things are not as simple as you may think.
The last wing I built cost us close to 6k and never got the qc approval.
So think of that next time you post silly jokes about one guy helping another.

Now I figure the lack of guide lines in this topic.

Trust me I'm doing my best to keep you inform and do appreciate all suggestions.

I know true Nissan owners appreciate even the smallest details.

Like I posted before.
My time is limited so I will only post huge progress.

To build an intake doesn't take that much engineering.
The percentage of failing is close to 0 in comparison to OEM.

This is why I made this topic.
I know it will benefit his car.
We want to know how much.


As for more details or updates
I'll try and post that ASAP.

Oh... My apologies for the grammar.lol

CMax03

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Do your thing, I know things take time first hand......

Blue Mesa

I disagree. An intricately shaped composite box does not automatically guarantee increased performance.

To build an intake doesn't take much engineering, to design an intake that performs better then the stock one does indeed take engineering. Based on what I've read here on the forum, the best gains come from tuning the length of the intake piping to resonate at certain RPM's. Furthermore, even with a higher flow airbox and/or piping, you are still limited by the size of the Throttle Body (and more importunately the restrictive stock exhaust manifolds and pre-cats). An icebox setup would be cool (no pun intended), but isn't the stock setup basically an icebox anyway?

In all honesty, I want this product to work out. If it has good gains and is priced right, It will sell fairly well, albeit to a small community. Unfortunately I don't see how its going to work all that well.

At any rate, keep us up to date on the price/performance gains.

Rob1224

you know..im upset by what you guys have done here, you finally have someone with interest in the 5th gen, dedicating time to develop that part, and you grill him like crazy? If theres a better way to turn people away ive never heard of it. The guy clearly stated (however a little late in the thread) that he'll release more info as he can. We'd all like more information but you'll have to wait.

MaxFiyah

im still confused but it seems interesting lol and the guys on here can be rude as hell almost made me cry when i still had my body kit lol jk haha

Blue Mesa

I think a lot of the rudeness comes from two sources:

1. The 5th gen forms are currently polluted with noob topics about problems that have already been addressed or about ghetto rigged DIY mods that don't really do anything.

2. Alot of the aftermarket parts for our cars these days are targetted at a younger buyer looking to mod for the first time, and thus alot of the vendors produce products that are desigined to make a quick buck rather then to produce a qaulity, durable, and high performance product.

We all want quality products for our cars and often times run into products that don't deliver. Few products are truly top notch (like say NWP, Cattman or ES/Moog).

I don't doubt that considerable amounts of time and effort will be put into the development of this product and I doubt it will be produced with the intent of making a quick buck. I do, however, fear this is going to be one of those products that doesn't really do much.

The Wizard

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Agreed. Happy to see you guys are making this for us.

Agreed, see below
We can tell. LOL. You are the technical guy behind the scenes, the mad scientist, the brains behind it all...
Maybe you can make my car more productive...it's lazy and is always sleeping in my garage.


Translation: From the sound of it, this probably isn't going to be affordable by most orgers.

Can you even throw out a ballpark figure? Based on your postings, it sounds like you've developed these for other cars, so surely you have a ballpark guess of what the end product will cost us. Thanks

cjandura

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Yes there is rudness here the reason being is us old guys sit back and watch these young kids do stupid meaningless crap to their cars with parts from Home Appliances and Home Depot.then there is the ones we watch that think the whole engineering of the car is wrong and try to redue it.take in example the arsetart that thinks leaving his pcv sustem open gives him 50hp and such.

So in essence Yes we are mean and Hostile towards things like this because we have come to learn that the noobs will do anything from Dryer Ducting to god awful body kits with huge wings and stickers!

TunerMaxima3000

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This.

You took the time to post all that but don't take 2 seconds to explain even your plan.

There is a very good chance this will fail compared to OEM, if you are as good as you say you are you would know that.

cjandura

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See my explanition is much better!

CMax03

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As long as it can be fed with a higher flowing feed tube(s) and a 3" or 6" intake filter can been mounted inside the airbox with a SRI. I see nothing but promise! You ever even seen an entire 5th Gen intake system from the radiator core support to the airbox???? That's no engineering marvel!

TunerMaxima3000

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That's what I'm sayin'!!

As long as it's getting the air it needs, and not hot air, it can be better than stock fairly easily. I like where this could be going, I'm just disappointed that we're getting absolutely NO info here at all, if you aren't ready to share info, no problem dude, but you made the thread, right? So you have our interest, for sure! But you need to give us your 'plan', even if it changes that's cool, clearly you have enough figured out that you can tell us where this goes, and how it's fed air, etc, because you have already made the piece....

Rods03Max619

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Its a Intake, almost all the people only care about is how much Power is it going to make over Stock, or JW popcharger, a Injen CAI, or a 3.5''LRMAF setup, or a 3'' LRMAF setup Tuned, so me I'm down for Dyno Numbers, Pics and the Price of this....Good Luck....