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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Im going to do a full HID swap on my 2000 and im trying to figure out if I need a relay harness to put HID's in . And if so will I need to run a separate relay for the fogs and headlights ?? If not im just gonna order the bulbs, as I already have ballasts from my old car but not the right size bulbs
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Originally Posted by Tdinero931
Im going to do a full HID swap on my 2000 and im trying to figure out if I need a relay harness to put HID's in . And if so will I need to run a separate relay for the fogs and headlights ?? If not im just gonna order the bulbs, as I already have ballasts from my old car but not the right size bulbs
Yes and why your headlights are not made for HID all glare.
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 01:13 PM
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Can you clarify please ? Are you saying I need relays on both ? just headlights or what ?
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The 5th gen headlights were designed for halogen bulbs. They are designed to have glare, since the lower lumen output of halogens allows for glare without being extremely blinding. When you place a high lumen output HID bulb in there, the glare is multiplied, and it becomes blinding for oncoming traffic. Another thing, is that HID bulbs will have a slightly different focal point from the original halogen, causing a change in beam pattern. The best choice for HID use is HID projectors retrofitted into your headlights, with a 5.5 headlight conversion coming in second.
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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If you slap in some HIDs in your normal headlights just shoot yourself in the head.
Do us all a favor pls.

Just get some riced out blue bulbs and run high beams for the same effect you're after.
Old Apr 28, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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I'm thinking about getting a HID installed on my 2000 too.

I have no idea about the brands, and I do know that I need a lot of parts installed like projector etc.

any easy start up kit you guys recommend? I'd like to get them online, and let my local shop put them on.

My local shops usually rip me off since they know I don't know too much about cars.
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 08:03 AM
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oh i def plan on getting different headlights but where i live HID's are common in non projected housings lol. All my other cars were like that too pretty much besides 1, cops dont usually trip on it here. But definately thanks for the heads up..

Now, if i do a 5.5 gen conversion you think i should get actual oem ones or will those ebay ones do , although ive experienced bad fitting with ebay replicas in the past.. And with the 5.5 gen headlights will i also need the front bumper ?? Ive heard ill run into an issue there.
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Originally Posted by Tdinero931
oh i def plan on getting different headlights but where i live HID's are common in non projected housings lol. All my other cars were like that too pretty much besides 1, cops dont usually trip on it here. But definately thanks for the heads up..

Now, if i do a 5.5 gen conversion you think i should get actual oem ones or will those ebay ones do , although ive experienced bad fitting with ebay replicas in the past.. And with the 5.5 gen headlights will i also need the front bumper ?? Ive heard ill run into an issue there.

so if every does it does that make it ok? just saying haha. Anyway on to ur questions

You don't need a 5.5 bumper to have 5.5 headlights. Also IIRC there is an aftermarket brand for 5.5 headlights named DEPO or something, they were supposidly pretty decent and look oem.

You are right with ebay replicas, or anything aftermarket and non OEM for that matter, not really fitting great. It's just how it is with aftermarket stuff. Typically you can get around it make things work though. Nothings perfect right?

Keep us posted if you do it the "right way"
You could always get some nice upgraded halogen bulbs too and not have to change anything else.
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 09:55 AM
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the factory wiring should handle running HID's fine. i would go with 5.5 gen lights . try car-parts.com and look for a used set or get depo lights...
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Originally Posted by Tdinero931
Im going to do a full HID swap on my 2000 and im trying to figure out if I need a relay harness to put HID's in . And if so will I need to run a separate relay for the fogs and headlights ?? If not im just gonna order the bulbs, as I already have ballasts from my old car but not the right size bulbs
I would highly recommend that you invest in a HID system that is BI-XENON when utilizing halogen housing due to the glare shields used virtually eliminate virtually all your glare .....I ran Bi-Xenons in my HELLA 2 piece housings in my 86.5 Hardbody.....Not glare and a very well controlled beam.....
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Originally Posted by uptownsamcv
the factory wiring should handle running HID's fine. i would go with 5.5 gen lights . try car-parts.com and look for a used set or get depo lights...
Wrong
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Originally Posted by Tdinero931
oh i def plan on getting different headlights but where i live HID's are common in non projected housings lol. All my other cars were like that too pretty much besides 1, cops dont usually trip on it here. But definately thanks for the heads up..

Now, if i do a 5.5 gen conversion you think i should get actual oem ones or will those ebay ones do , although ive experienced bad fitting with ebay replicas in the past.. And with the 5.5 gen headlights will i also need the front bumper ?? Ive heard ill run into an issue there.
This is what you need to do just goto the yard and get the harness for a 02-03 and then look up the thread by Tunermax it shows you howto convert it over.as fat as lights just get used or depot lights.
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going the 5.5 headlight route will definitely be less labor intensive. I went the ebay projector housings with OEM Bixenon projector route, and it involved a bit more work and fine tuning(aiming, mouting, etx) on top of the wiring needed to run the HIDs safely. Worth it for me, but many prefer the 5.5 headlight look on our cars.
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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If you have bi-xenon bulbs and ballast WITH same wattage as bulbs then you just need a hi/low controller with the relay to connect positive battery and (2) grounded wire neither hook to battery or to the car grounded. Hi/low controller cost value $15-20 depends where you get it. By the way fog and headlight will work at the same-time just as long you have hi/low controller relay.
Old Apr 29, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Wrong

ive ran plenty of cars with HID and stock wiring, if it were to pull too much power the fuse would blow. even the stock wiring in my 89 crx was fine for running the HID's i put in it and ive had them in thee for 5 years with no problems......
Old Apr 30, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by uptownsamcv
the factory wiring should handle running HID's fine. i would go with 5.5 gen lights . try car-parts.com and look for a used set or get depo lights...
Originally Posted by uptownsamcv
ive ran plenty of cars with HID and stock wiring, if it were to pull too much power the fuse would blow. even the stock wiring in my 89 crx was fine for running the HID's i put in it and ive had them in thee for 5 years with no problems......
I don't know if CJ is referring specifically to power draw but if the op installs the Nissan 5.5 headlights, there are lots of wiring changes needed. It is far from plug and play. Here is a write up on doing the wiring mods for 5.5 lights into a 5.0:

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...guide-diy.html
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Power draw and dependability is what im talking about
Old Apr 30, 2013 | 11:53 AM
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Thanks for the tips guys.. Ordered my fogs, gonna run them and see how they do on the factory wiring , if i dont run into problems ill let you guys know for official confirmation haha. As far as the headlights im gonna get some 5.5's , i planned on doing it anyways just cause i like the look better but ill definately relay them . Thanks for the help again. Ill let you guys know how it goes, my stuff should be in between later today and friday.
Old Apr 30, 2013 | 12:44 PM
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Power draw and dependability is what im talking about

thats what im talking about also. ive been running HID's on stock wiring for 5 years on a car that is 24 years old. ive also installed them on plenty of cars and never had a fuse pop or have any wiring issues.

ive had to do a few rewires on cars that dont have a 900X connector. most ballasts that ive seen use a 900X plug even the stock one on my 02 MAX...
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Well do you bro ill stick with my stock HID and morimito bulbs and my
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...oducts_id=3958 for the fogs
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