I jus advanced my timing so I'm at 17degrees. will this be an issue with a 75 shot and colder plugs?

if not what octane should i run so i don't get detonation? was a hassle jus gettin it advanced.


Nobody ever views Nitrous section here so hopefully someone here will have a answear.

Thanks.

 

 

I understand in higher shots you have to but only a 75 shot? i read somewhere its ok as long as you up octane level. i could mix couple gallons of 108 with 93?

 

Do it.
Film it.
Have whomever is in charge of your estate when you die in the subsequent crash post it to youtube.
yourself from hell

 

Funny how you guys are doubting it cause ya have no clue.. Buddy whos sprayed in many many cars told me its perfectly fine just run high octane fuel to be safe.

 

Sounds like you have it all figured out then.
/thread

 

17ºBTDC = static, not dynamic, now this thread is essentially irrelevant after that statement.

 

I would not run any advanced timing in conjunction with nitrous.

Unless you are running solely race gas and not some race/pump mix, then it wouldn't cause danger to the engine, but 1) nitrous makes more power with less timing and 2) even if more timing would make more power, wouldn't it be more effective to just bump the nitrous jet a couple sizes to make power without allowing knock to be a factor?

 

I guess its better to be on safe side. i was just googleing stuff n goin by what other people were sayin. better safe then sorry.

Thanks!

 

I wanted to see a quick trial video.

 

Guys....I'm no expert on VQ tuning, but its obvious that most of you are clueless to tuning. Stock timing usually has so much retard that you can spray a healthy amount of nitrous without retard. On Lsx's it is common to bump timing 6 degrees then hit it with a 125 shot. If you pull timing and then spray you are usually disappointed. OP put a cheap water kit on it and spray it.

 

I Ran C16 Fuel Tonight 116 octane 1 gallon mixxed with 4gal 93 pump gas gives me bout 97 octane level sprayed 75shot she loved it.

before yall clown on my for runnin a leaded race fuel i must tell you idc about my catalac converter its being changed soon anyways and every single o2 sensor is bad so leaded fuel shouldn't hurt anything.


so...75 wet shot+17Degree timing+97 octane=Power n no Detonation.

plugs were 1 step colder ngk.

 

Video please?

 

It depends on what your absolute timing #s are. I wouldn't bump 100-125 shot with the 29-31 degrees that the stock ECU is putting out, let alone advancing it.

 

Ill make video this following weekend. my phone camera is 3mp since my note2 got stolen and I'm not making a pointless video. i didn't hear any pinging just a healthy VQ opening the hell up!


where you get 29-31 from? its stock is 15degree and its upto 17. people say 17 is perfectly safe and just for insurance i bumped octane level up.

 

This is all that matters....decipher this and you win.

 

If you're familiar with a dynamic, not static timing curve, then yes, it's dependent on RPM, throttle postion and load (load = MAF usage + throttle position, or at least that's what Nissan interprets it as) and typically is it's lowest at peak torque.

Here are my timing curves:





With that said, very low load times, timing is in the 40's.

 

it can be done if you're smart about it. i wouldn't advise it to OP.

 

So really if I'm spraying at 3200rpm n out at 6krpm I'm right at 26btdc with spray....wow that is scary hmmm never knew this Thanks.

 

That's my timing curve, yours will be different.

 

U at 15btdc?

 

Put a water kit on it and you are golden. If you are reading this tread and Dont know what a water kit is or what it does, refrain from giving advice. We can take this thread for pages, but simply put, 1 m3 nozzle on a pump and spray away.

 

No.

 

Ill look into this my brother said same thing lol.

What are you at? jus curious if my timing curve is goin as high as yours.

 

I know of a 5.5 gen with a technosquare (timing advanced on those things), cams and a 75 shot....and making about 380whp......no problems. I think you guys would be surprised how strong these engines actually are.......

 

Ya but if timings too far advanced while spraying n she leans out then detonation occurs & in that situation i don't care how strong a motor is its goin byebye.

now tuned correctly they are very strong n id feel confortable sprayin a 120shot as long as my timing and good tune i know engine will stay together.

 

my point is I think the technosquare may be advanced a bit higher than the little 2 degrees we can do via Cipher. Of course any engine will get ruined in a detonation senario.....

Didnt Jime spray 150 shot on stock block VQ35DE? What was his timing?

 

^^ is Jime the 10 second guy?

If so I would say his timing was perfect.

Pun intended.

 

Jime also knew what he was doing.

Just because our base timing is the same, doesn't mean the curve is too. I'm t 17, but I also have a TS ECU.

 

The key point here.

 

Wow things were not this complicated back in my day of bottle usage.

 

It sounded healthy with 75shot no pingin at all but had mixture that was round 97octane. I'm sure it'll be better to go back to base timing or possibly 13degrees and run pump gas specilly with a 100shot.

 

^^ video or /thread.

 

You seriously don't beleave it do you smh...she's still together after 4pulls 40 to 110 beleave what you want ill get a vid soon as i can.

 

You still don't get the timing thing do you?

 

You guys sound like children pissing and moaning about timing. Lol....Even you hat pretend to understand timing evidently don't understand the situation at hand. who cares if he don't understand timing curves.....He's spraying with no problems...with STOCK timing curve a 75 is no problem.

 

 

Ahahahahahahahahahaha ^^^^^

 

Ok ok its fine you want a fast maxima but bro you have to snap into reality its not made to be a racecar!and if your not listening to the people here that have been doing this for years your going to fail!

 

Guys are just over reacting..and no i do not understand the dam timing curb n since noones gonna explain it to me ill find out on my dyno day i guess.

This thread needs to be closed ppl getting way off subject and problem has been resolved I'm done.quit goin on.