Mystery front end vibration
Mystery front end vibration
I have had a 2000 Maxima SE since 2001 that has had a front end vibration the entire time. My attempts to remedy over the years have failed. I would be very grateful if anyone has a suggestion on what could be the source. Here are the conditions and symptoms along with what all I've done to correct.
Felt in the steering wheel above ~50mph
Doesn't change with rpm's
Remains when placed in neutral at speed
No change with new tires or rotations
Replaced CV axles multiple times... even Raxles didn't last
Front shocks start clanking about every 50k miles due to vibration
Had several alignments
No odd tire wear patterns
Replaced both front wheel hubs and bearings
No mechanical looseness in steering linkage
I'm at a complete loss as to what else to check
Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
Felt in the steering wheel above ~50mph
Doesn't change with rpm's
Remains when placed in neutral at speed
No change with new tires or rotations
Replaced CV axles multiple times... even Raxles didn't last
Front shocks start clanking about every 50k miles due to vibration
Had several alignments
No odd tire wear patterns
Replaced both front wheel hubs and bearings
No mechanical looseness in steering linkage
I'm at a complete loss as to what else to check
Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
Last edited by Bama514; May 20, 2015 at 12:22 PM. Reason: mis-typed subject
Ah, ok I'll def take a look at the lower control arm bushings.
I did replace the motor mounts a couple of years ago with no luck.
Thanks for the ideas!
I have had a 2000 Maxima SE since 2001 that has had a front end vibration the entire time. My attempts to remedy over the years have failed. I would be very grateful if anyone has a suggestion on what could be the source. Here are the conditions and symptoms along with what all I've done to correct.
Felt in the steering wheel above ~50mph
Doesn't change with rpm's
Remains when placed in neutral at speed
No change with new tires or rotations
Replaced CV axles multiple times... even Raxles didn't last
Front shocks start clanking about every 50k miles due to vibration
Had several alignments
No odd tire wear patterns
Replaced both front wheel hubs and bearings
No mechanical looseness in steering linkage
I'm at a complete loss as to what else to check
Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
Felt in the steering wheel above ~50mph
Doesn't change with rpm's
Remains when placed in neutral at speed
No change with new tires or rotations
Replaced CV axles multiple times... even Raxles didn't last
Front shocks start clanking about every 50k miles due to vibration
Had several alignments
No odd tire wear patterns
Replaced both front wheel hubs and bearings
No mechanical looseness in steering linkage
I'm at a complete loss as to what else to check
Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
I've been to a number of shops for alignments and service since I've moved around a good bit. Also had a few try to find the issue while doing other work.
I've never taken it in and said "explore all options until it's fixed" since it's not a severe issue. Guess I'm afraid that kind of exploratory surgery would break the bank.
I've never taken it in and said "explore all options until it's fixed" since it's not a severe issue. Guess I'm afraid that kind of exploratory surgery would break the bank.
Picking up from almost a year ago and the story continues with this mystery vibration. It's still there and actually worse.
I replaced the lower control arms first along with the stabilizer links and tie rod ends. Also all three engine mounts (again) and transmission mount. The good thing is I now have some new tools that were needed to do these jobs which are the largest I've ever taken on. The front end feels much tighter and besides the vibration the car drives like new.
Now with the worsening vibration it's starting to seem more like a tranny issue since I can feel it at lower speeds esp when accelerating and it's frequency is faster than the rotation of the wheels. I'm thinking torque converter perhaps? Trying not to lose heart here thinking about diving into transmission work
I replaced the lower control arms first along with the stabilizer links and tie rod ends. Also all three engine mounts (again) and transmission mount. The good thing is I now have some new tools that were needed to do these jobs which are the largest I've ever taken on. The front end feels much tighter and besides the vibration the car drives like new.
Now with the worsening vibration it's starting to seem more like a tranny issue since I can feel it at lower speeds esp when accelerating and it's frequency is faster than the rotation of the wheels. I'm thinking torque converter perhaps? Trying not to lose heart here thinking about diving into transmission work
Last edited by Bama514; Feb 28, 2016 at 08:44 AM.
Start here, Road Force Balancer:
http://www.hunter.com/gsp9700
Have seen many scenarios with wheels, in fact, our 2004 Acura TL can't be balanced using a cone, but must be balanced using the lug hole adapter. Many years ago shops would balance the assembly, always a vibration until I told them to use the adapter, no more problems.
Since that time I now have a SnapOn balancer so I do my own wheels and eliminate the problems with incompetent shops.
http://www.hunter.com/gsp9700
Have seen many scenarios with wheels, in fact, our 2004 Acura TL can't be balanced using a cone, but must be balanced using the lug hole adapter. Many years ago shops would balance the assembly, always a vibration until I told them to use the adapter, no more problems.
Since that time I now have a SnapOn balancer so I do my own wheels and eliminate the problems with incompetent shops.
Last edited by Turbonut; Feb 29, 2016 at 05:05 PM.
Every one of my maximas had a vibration. I have replaced everything on the front on all 3. Still had the vibration. Had 2 shops tell me my rims were not bent and have had many sets of new tires.
Well I bought my first set of aftermarket rims for my 03 maxima and wow the car is sooooooooo smooth now. Apparently it was the rims. I put the rims on my daughters 03 and sure enough it's smooth with them on there too. (Well when not on the gas as I have a cv shafts that needs to be replaced)
Well I bought my first set of aftermarket rims for my 03 maxima and wow the car is sooooooooo smooth now. Apparently it was the rims. I put the rims on my daughters 03 and sure enough it's smooth with them on there too. (Well when not on the gas as I have a cv shafts that needs to be replaced)
Every one of my maximas had a vibration. I have replaced everything on the front on all 3. Still had the vibration. Had 2 shops tell me my rims were not bent and have had many sets of new tires.
Well I bought my first set of aftermarket rims for my 03 maxima and wow the car is sooooooooo smooth now. Apparently it was the rims. I put the rims on my daughters 03 and sure enough it's smooth with them on there too. (Well when not on the gas as I have a cv shafts that needs to be replaced)
Well I bought my first set of aftermarket rims for my 03 maxima and wow the car is sooooooooo smooth now. Apparently it was the rims. I put the rims on my daughters 03 and sure enough it's smooth with them on there too. (Well when not on the gas as I have a cv shafts that needs to be replaced)
It sounds like turbonut has a very good point, but even with shoddily balanced wheels by run down used tire shops, I haven't had any issues (several cars).
Appreciate the suggestions. I did have it balanced years ago at a shop by placing a glass of water on the hood and doing some trial and error weight placement. It worked ok until the tires needed balancing again. Wish I had stuck with this method and maybe I'd be in a better place.
The problem is now things are much worse with more significant vibration during acceleration. It's not even practical to drive until I can get it repaired. Whatever the issue started out as has perhaps damaged other items. Today I started thinking it might be time to take it to the stealership or just run it off a cliff.
The problem is now things are much worse with more significant vibration during acceleration. It's not even practical to drive until I can get it repaired. Whatever the issue started out as has perhaps damaged other items. Today I started thinking it might be time to take it to the stealership or just run it off a cliff.
Appreciate the suggestions. I did have it balanced years ago at a shop by placing a glass of water on the hood and doing some trial and error weight placement. It worked ok until the tires needed balancing again. Wish I had stuck with this method and maybe I'd be in a better place.
The problem is now things are much worse with more significant vibration during acceleration. It's not even practical to drive until I can get it repaired. Whatever the issue started out as has perhaps damaged other items. Today I started thinking it might be time to take it to the stealership or just run it off a cliff.
The problem is now things are much worse with more significant vibration during acceleration. It's not even practical to drive until I can get it repaired. Whatever the issue started out as has perhaps damaged other items. Today I started thinking it might be time to take it to the stealership or just run it off a cliff.
Appreciate the suggestions. I did have it balanced years ago at a shop by placing a glass of water on the hood and doing some trial and error weight placement. It worked ok until the tires needed balancing again. Wish I had stuck with this method and maybe I'd be in a better place.
The problem is now things are much worse with more significant vibration during acceleration. It's not even practical to drive until I can get it repaired. Whatever the issue started out as has perhaps damaged other items. Today I started thinking it might be time to take it to the stealership or just run it off a cliff.
The problem is now things are much worse with more significant vibration during acceleration. It's not even practical to drive until I can get it repaired. Whatever the issue started out as has perhaps damaged other items. Today I started thinking it might be time to take it to the stealership or just run it off a cliff.
Felt in steering wheel above ~50mph
Doesn't change with rpm's
Remains when placed in neutral at speed
No change with new tires or rotations
Replaced CV axles multiple times... even Raxles didn't last
Front shocks start clanking about every 50k miles due to vibration
Had several alignments
No odd tire wear patterns
Replaced both front wheel hubs and bearings
No mechanical looseness in steering linkage
have you replaced the inner tie rod ends??? Ive had a vibration on my car at high speeds, and although it needs an alignment, a shop told me yesterday one of the inner tie rod ends was bad on the driver side, and could tell by shaking the wheel.
Derrick, no vibration at idle or even rev'ing in neutral. Only in gear when accelerating, and also at highway speed.
maxinout93, I haven't checked the inner tie rod ends but will do so. Thanks for the suggestion!
I should note that when I started this thread the vibration was only noticeable above 50 or 60mph, but in the last few months it started at low speed with acceleration which is much more pronounced. At this point there is no way balancing the tires or an alignment will solve since we're talking < 15mph when it becomes noticeable.
maxinout93, I haven't checked the inner tie rod ends but will do so. Thanks for the suggestion!
I should note that when I started this thread the vibration was only noticeable above 50 or 60mph, but in the last few months it started at low speed with acceleration which is much more pronounced. At this point there is no way balancing the tires or an alignment will solve since we're talking < 15mph when it becomes noticeable.
Derrick, no vibration at idle or even rev'ing in neutral. Only in gear when accelerating, and also at highway speed.
maxinout93, I haven't checked the inner tie rod ends but will do so. Thanks for the suggestion!
I should note that when I started this thread the vibration was only noticeable above 50 or 60mph, but in the last few months it started at low speed with acceleration which is much more pronounced. At this point there is no way balancing the tires or an alignment will solve since we're talking < 15mph when it becomes noticeable.
maxinout93, I haven't checked the inner tie rod ends but will do so. Thanks for the suggestion!
I should note that when I started this thread the vibration was only noticeable above 50 or 60mph, but in the last few months it started at low speed with acceleration which is much more pronounced. At this point there is no way balancing the tires or an alignment will solve since we're talking < 15mph when it becomes noticeable.
Since it's tied to acceleration I'm leaning away from an imbalance and toward worn components like tie rods or axles.
I've replaced the tie rod ends on both my cars and it tightened things up a lot. Mine were showing as a vibration when braking, almost like warped rotors. It's not that big of a repair but you will need an alignment after.
Also, I just reread the original post and noticed this "Front shocks start clanking about every 50k miles due to vibration".
Is it still doing that? It could be the upper strut mounts causing all of this or making it worse combined with worn tie rods.
The Upper mounts are between the body and the strut and allow the whole assembly to turn for steering. If they're badly worn they can allow the top of the assembly to wobble around even if all the other components are tight. They're a little tricky to diagnose but I'd have the alignment shop look at them specifically.
So it does rule out the torque converter? If so that is some relief. I'll check the upper strut mount when I look at the inner tie rods. I did replace the outer tie rods when I replaced the lower control arms and stabilizer links.
CV axles have been replaced twice over the years and the first time with Raxles. No change to the vibration.
CV axles have been replaced twice over the years and the first time with Raxles. No change to the vibration.
So it does rule out the torque converter? If so that is some relief. I'll check the upper strut mount when I look at the inner tie rods. I did replace the outer tie rods when I replaced the lower control arms and stabilizer links.
CV axles have been replaced twice over the years and the first time with Raxles. No change to the vibration.
CV axles have been replaced twice over the years and the first time with Raxles. No change to the vibration.
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