qdiddy12

My roomate and i have been on a racin spree and we wanted to see what who you all thought won?

Celi with thermal research cat back exhaust, and Injen CAI

MAX with PR CAI, Hi flow cat, and Greddy exhaust

Let me know who you think won?

silentbuzz

iTrader: (2)

I have a 2001 AE 5spd, and my closest friend has a 2000 GTS 6spd. He has short shifter, cat back exhaust and CAI......also its lowered 1.5.

I have only K&N drop in & SMC Shifter to increase my performance if any.

I'd say it would be a close race. Depends who drives better. We never race, cause I dont like screwing around with friends.

Remember this. After 2000, all models had wider shifting points, and the redline was lowered, so it's harder for them to keep the car in the 2nd cam.

Let me know how it goes.

Chitwista

One of my friends has a 01 GT-S and he raced another kid with a 02 Se-R (intake) and the Se-R ate him up.. So if this holds true, I would have to go with the Max..

PhatGuy

I raced a GTS 6spd and it was close but I beat him by a car at the top of my second then we let off.

What speeds? Dead stop to... Or rolling start at what speeds?

With his mods he should beat you since you don't have a y-pipe.

kit99bar

not if the celica is driven the right way

PhatGuy

The one where the oil is flowing out of??

I don't care what anyone says...if driven properly the gt-s 6spd is quick. I don't see a relatively stock 5spd max "annihilating" it especially if the gt-s is modded as well.

Driven EF9

so, you're saying Celica's only run on ONE camshaft below the switch over point...at which point they run on the SECOND camshaft?

i'm not quite getting what you're saying...

qdiddy12

actually a 5sd max with hi flow cat, greddy cat back exhaust and PR CAI is not basically stock. It is probaly pushing well over 250 closer to 260 at the flywheel

PhatGuy

Nope not even close. More like in the 230's at the crank. You should dyno your ride. Bro hook yourself up with an aftermarket Y-pipe! Y-pipe will give you more gains than all the other 3 mods combined. Your stock y-pipe is restricting all your other mods bigtime!

Driven EF9

So, you're saying you gain close to 35hp (middle ground) from a CAI, catback, and hi flow cat?

So, you're saying:
CAI = 5hp
catback = 20hp
hi flow cat = 10hp

hahhahhahhhahha
That's what we call, RICER math.

with CAI, Catback, and hi-flow cat, you're probably closer to 240bhp at most. with a Y-pipe, more likely 250-255bhp, since now they are working together more efficiently and effectively.

I'd hate to say it, but, Phatguy is actually right in his way of thinking in this thread.

I think the Maxima will win slightly if the celica driver doesn't launch it properly and take it to redline...

I still like the 2nd Cam comment... that's funny.

kit99bar

Seriously the GT-S and maxima are really close

I read both maxima.org and newcelica.org
and both cars properly driven are mid 14 sec cars.
with maxima.org's theBlue's 14.25 and newcelica's Billybrun's 14.1 as the best NA times. (ps if billybrun took out his seats too, he'd gotten into the 13s j/k) anyways, it's up to the driver who wins..

Yo_its_ok: can you tell me more about this oil pan problem? I never heard of it! I've changed my oil many times so I know what nails your talking about. Can you tell me a little more about it?

qdiddy12

ohhhh ok 222+8(intake dyno at the wheels)+14 (hi flow cat dyno at the wheels) just look up www.randomtechnology.com dumbass.+ whatever u want for the Greddy cat back exhaust. Obviously u dont do your research so shut the hell up and never speak again unless your math is different than mine.

Trev_Daddy

Since you replied to the thread and not to the user, just who is the dumbass?

Heh...Newbie calling someone a dumbass...

PhatGuy

Time for someone to dyno.

Driven EF9

So, you're saying (with your ricer math), that they, combined, will equal close to 260bhp?

222+8= 230
230+14=244
Greddy exhaust = 16hp?

Interesting. So, you're saying if you dyno a CAI and a hi flow cat, you should see 22hp gain? Have you been to a dyno? You cannot add two parts that were dynoed separately and expect them to collectively add that much.

Granted, a stock car might see 8hp from a CAI... but a MODIFIED car will mostly likely not. Go to a dyno and ask the guy who owns the dyno.

qdiddy12

Ok even if u dont see 22 at the wheels (for the cat and CAI)and 16 for the exhaust, thats ok b/c if u do your "math" 250-222 is 28 (at the fly) how much is needed at the wheels to make 28 at the fly?? I think i have enough w/ those mods.

Anyways it doesn't even matter, we've raced at least 8 times and he got ate 7 times(solidly)
note: the only i got beat was i drop it and spun though 2

qdiddy12

First of all u praise the great powerful y-pipe that adds a "amazing" 8hp at the wheels and u only beat this GT-S by a car then u cannot drive or your great y-pipe is just over-priced and not that great.

My (non-y-piped) 2k1 max ****in killed him. from a dead start to 140mph.

Trev_Daddy

Dude...Stop the phucking flamin, ok? Driven's right...If you haven't dyno'd your ride, then you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

You also need to work on your "amazing" grammar skills.

Max_Gator

Yeah, and Stillen quotes some ridiculous numbers too. We've dyno'd around here and they don't work. A Y-pipe/intake combo really only dynos about 12-13 hp at the wheels.

NO WAY does an RT cat give you 14 hp AT THE WHEELS. That's 16 at the crank - from a cat???????

By the way, the dyno on the RT site is for CAT + Cat-back exhaust. And its for a 4th gen.

PhatGuy

Post a scanned dyno of "your" Maxima.
Post pictures of your car and mods.
Post a video of your "races" since it isn't a random encounter and you live with this boyfriend of yours and play with him all the time. Should not be a problem and expect to see the videos (more than one) by the end of the week! Mr. BS
My race was from a dead stop to 60 (top of second) not 140. He hit wot a lil before me as well but it was pretty close starts. Give your boyfriend some money for some driving lessons as well! How far ahead were you at the top of second on each of your lil matches? Anymore than a car than either it is BS or your boyfriend can't drive..pick one!
I guarantee my car puts down more power with an intake and y-pipe than yours does with intake/rt cat/and cat back!

Just in case you forgot get a video camera! I would like to see how far ahead you are by the end of second gear!

Your claimed 250-260HP is a joke!

222 stock
+ 6 intake (without Y-pipe might not even be that much)
+ 5 RT cat (very optimistic with or without y-pipe closer to 1-3HP)
+ 5 catback (without Y-pipe probably not even that much)

238 at very best! More like lower to mid 230's. Dyno your car a let us know!

You have been on here 5 days this being your 13th post??? What city and state do you live in?

qdiddy12

you are a babbling idiot

PhatGuy

That is probably true but at least I don't BS!
Everything in my last post is basically true and accurate! Too bad you don't like it Mr. BS!

Can't wait to see your videos Mr.250HP+ aka Mr. BS.
Pics and dynos as well!

What city and state do you live in?

Driven EF9

i know i have done this, but, just to clarify.

BHP = brake horsepower.
WHP = wheel horsepower.

A stock 00-01 Maxima will dyno at around 195whp.

An otherwise stock 00-01 Maxima with y-pipe will dyno around 205whp.

CAI Max., around 198whp (averaged, collected from various dynographs and quoted numbers)

catback exhaust, no CAI Max, around 200whp.

the MOST i've seen a Max dyno with y-pipe, cai, and catback is 215whp. That equates to something like 250hp to the crank.

.shrugs. oh well

qdiddy12

what's on your car boss?

PhatGuy

Even those numbers are a lil high.

Stock 2k-2k1 about 180fwhp/190tq
Intake/y-pipe about 190's (lower to mid)fwhp/190's (low side to mid)

The highest I've seen is Max Gator I think but he had a spike at redline so not sure of the actual number. Anyone else get around 200fwhp+ on a 2k-2k1 NA Max?

Trev_Daddy

Damn, Man....Very enlightening post...

PhatGuy

Stillen intake soon to be Frankencar with velocity stack with custom air flow tube. Cattman Y-pipe since it is stainless steel for winter. RSB, FSTB, STS, H&R, various rims, lotta other crap.... Adding a mandrel bend b-pipe and keeping the stock muffler. Would get a rt cat or test pipe but no proof of gains as of yet considering I won't be boosting.

You should get yourself a y-pipe for sure! That will bring your car and other mods to it full potenetial. Dyno your car before the install of the y-pipe then after. I'm sure there will be a big difference more so with HP than torque.

As for the Celica race I find it hard to believe that you totally destroyed him at the top of second gear with his mods and yours. Ya maybe to 140 but to 60 I doubt it. Maybe a car, car and half at best and could go either way assuming he knows how to launch/drive.

You should take the time and video tape a few runs since I'm sure at lower speeds it is a lot closer than you are making it out to be.

qdiddy12

u are so smart, u should be a car specialists and people should pay for your great knowledge of the maxima.

Note: rumor has it that those RSB and FSTB and 8 hp at the wheels (but only when used with a y-pipe).

kit99bar

your posts would make sense if you just admitted you and your roommate both drive automatics.

PhatGuy

Smartass:

Videos of your races with your roomie?
Pics of you car with mods?
Dynos?
What city and state do you live in?

Show us something and we can start from there otherwise you are full of ****!

Max_Gator

My highest hp dyno was with the results corrected and smoothed and spike removed. With spike it was something like 208. The others you see in the graph have the spike.

Madmax2k dyno'd almost identical numbers stock and with mods on the same dyno with the same car (2k5spd) but with y and CAI instead of SI.

I think that's a reasonable number.

Still, there isn't going to be any 14 hp from a cat!!

Maksim2000

iTrader: (4)

Maybe his friend-in-rice rebadged his Celica from GT ot GT-S ? That would explain some things...

Celica has a back seat that weights anything ? j/k, kit, I like Celicas, they are fun.

madmax2k

Yes. About 205 whp or so.

madmax2k

Yep. Mine also showed about 208 whp with the little spike at redline. In reality, the number is closer to 205 whp. On the dyno. MaxGator's car and mine put down more or less identical numbers.