Dont wanna start a bench racing thread, but how bad will a early model g35 smoke a 2000 max? What mods would the max need to keep it close?

 

05 isn't early model. It has the rev up engine which is rated at 298hp for the 6 speed (280 auto).

 

Your right, just looked it up! Buddy has one and wants to race, on a closed track of course. The only chance stock i have, is if he has 4 passengers and use 87 octane gas! My car runs strong as ever though. Would exhaust, bolt ons and tune allow me to keep it close? He doesnt know anything about cars other than stomping it.

 

By bolt on are you talking supercharger?

 

You really think a supercharger is needed to take a stock vq35? I was talking exhahst, headers, air intake and tune. Doesnt the vq30 take better to mods than the vq35?

 

It's not going to happen unless you spend more then the car is worth at this point. Not saying it can't be done. Just saying you gotta pay to play.

 

I dnt mind spending money on this car, its paid off and i love it after i repair the rust its time to mod, well after i get the 2002 skirts, headlights and bumper. The vq35 is that mighty huh?? Engine envy!!!!

 

Idk, I'm pretty ignorant about this stuff

 

Ya dude.

exhaust = 10hp
headers = 20hp
air intake = 15hp
sick tune bro = 30hp.

 

You forgot stickers, tornado intake, and electric hairdryer supercharger.

 

Those numbers actually seem spot on, i honestly believe a fully bolted and tuned VQ30 can take a stock g35. DONT EVER SLEEP ON A MODDED VQ30!!! I heard the highest powered N/A vq is the VQ30!

 

How about an electric supercharger? Not the eBay scam in a tube ones but the real deal. Phantomsuperchargers.com instead of a plastic housing, their supercharger is essentialy a cold side of a turbo with a reworked electric starter on it. Runs off of 48v and seprate batteries that recharge as you drive with no parasitic loss. It can provide 8psi of boost on the model I looked at. Decently priced aswell.

 

Realize gear ratios play a role, but just using the old HP/WGT factor, you'd need 40HP more to be equal.
Also, the Infiniti has a lower off the line ratio, 11.87 to the Maxima 10.5.

No reason to give it a go, waste of time.

 

I think first have to know what an extra 50hp feels like and then
laugh about it when you see people post what I just did about +50hp with intake/headers/exhaust.

When I was like 17 a friend had a 89 firebird that thing was the fastest
****. He put in a jet chip it said like 50hp upgrade on the box took it to the dyno the dyno man asked how much power he thought it was going to make.
My friend say, "I estimate about 300hp" with his POS mods. Flowmaster exhaust = 40hp, k&n = 25hp. The guy made like 150hp or something stock like that. Funny stuff. The joke is on the bolt on tuner kid.

 

Interesting has anyone actually done this?

 

Real electric superchargers are big, cost thousands and have massive power requirements.
You might as well install a 30 dollar ebay one lol.

All of these small/cheap ones are a SCAM. If they were real, they'd take the market by storm. Have you seen a single electric S/C on any sports car forum (installed on a real member's ride, not shill accounts)? (rhetorical question)

Take a look at the size of the motor. It's the same as my fist. Does that look like a big HP electric motor to you? If it could consume thousand of watts, it would be on fire in seconds.

 

I was kidding i have see MCM do an episode on them plus im smart enough to know if something is too good to be true, it's because it isnt true

 

They have dyno tested and proven these kits. They are big on the frs and Miata fourms. The kit is extremely easy to install and remove. It runs off a battery bank seprate from the cars own battery. AUDI recently released a electric super charger for one of their vehicles to help with spool. The price last time i remember is in the 1400 range but that's not bad for a bolt on 8psi or more. The only bad thing is that the boost tapers off alot at higher rpm. I will post useable info aswell as dyno sheets and flow data about these once I'm home. Also these are not electricly spun superchargers, they are electricly spun turbo cold side housings, so the little motor just has to be capable of high rpm rather than torque, instead of spinning where a pulley should be.

 

If you have a driver mod that is 50hp also.

 

Video with proof that you have one and in the video hold a fork

 

I personaly don't have one, however I have been putting money aside for a developer kit(universal) so that I may use it on my max and move it to my next vehicle. I used to be ***** deep in Subaru threads and that's how I came across it. There actualy called Wide oped throttle superchargers. It operates based on vacuum when your driving normaly. When not in wot it matches the flow of the engine as best as it can so that it isn't a restriction, some units have a vacuum sensor in the housing towards the engine. At wot it spins up at 48v, but the boost isn't there forever. I believe phantoms kit gives you 60 seconds of constant boost, but to recharge the batteries it takes 8 seconds to recharge 1 second of boost. The upgraded kit gave you an upgraded charger for a 4-1 charge time instead.

 

This is going to give me a headache.

High rpm motor is useless if there's no power. You can't compress air with a hairdryer. It requires a lot of work, and to do a lot of work, you need to use a lot of energy. If there was a 5hp one under the hood, I'd be more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt (would need more like 15hp, I think). This one is supposed to be a 6.75 hp motor (didn't it say 5Kw, which isn't 3k watt)...

3,000 watt
lololololololololololololololololololololololololo lololololololololololololololol

Based on the rpm and size, I'm guessing it's 1/8th hp?

Load test this motor and find the amperage. I'd like to see that 40 dollar motor pull 120 amps (yes, the parts are dirt cheap).

Give me a big power leafblower and I'll show you a better boost method.

 

A real turbo spins 50,000 to 250,000 rpm. Do you really think that thing can turn those rpm,s?

 

The conversion of Watts to Amps at fixed voltage is governed by the equation Amps = Watts/Volts

For example 12 watts/12 volts = 1 amp
I was wrong about the 48v system, so its a 24v system.
3000 watts/ 24v= 250 amps. the battery setup uses a few batteries linked to make 24v. so in theory all we need is 250 amps to spin it.
most alternators make up to 120 amps normaly. that right there is half the energy needed to spin it, which is why the energy is stored on a separate battery setup and only used when needed. the cars stock power system couldn't handle the on the spot demands for the supercharger. in theory the 24v system should make 240 amps, which is close to the needed 250. Please correct me if im wrong, my electric knowledge is a little choppy. The owner responded to older threads when he was fourm active and he claimed that for the prototype he used 3 starters and rewound them to work at higher rpms.
This was a stock golf, if it was tuned with an exaust it would make decent numbers.

INSTALLATION
FTS: TQ-18024V
2007 VW Golf 2.0L

 

With enough voltage Brushess motors are capable of very high speeds, if the claims were 15+ lbs of boost I would never believe it, but being that its numbers are as low as 8lbs peak and even less at high rpm I can think that it isn't a scam. Vehicle manufacturers are trying to use the tech now that it has been proven to work.
http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...-and-save-fuel
http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...r-turbo-makers

 

I used a calculator. I know what the amperage is for 3k watts at 24 volts lol - 125 amps

Yep, the 3 starter method was built into a unit and really works. http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...-supercharger/

 

Shoot, my math is still a bit shaky but thanks for the correction. So it requires 3000 watts, 125 amps to spin. If the motor is a 12v motor and it takes 12v@120 amps then shouldn't a 24v power source then double the amps making it 12v@240amps?

 

I was looking at the battery's, and they make battery's that are rated 120ah at 12v. If two were daisy chained you would get 240ah at 24v. Deep cycle bats are rated for 20 hours of use at 5 amp load. Now when we load 120 amps onto the deep cycle obviously it won't run whatever is draining the energy for long. Being that it uses 2 batteries then that would require each battery to hold a load of 120amps for a maximum of 60 seconds. So the supercharger draining 20 hours worth of energy in a 60 second shot doesn't sound possible?

 

You're getting your calculations all ****ered.

Yes, a real motor can drain batteries in no time flat, but you really gotta read up on how electricity works.

 

Just going by the picture posted. First 1400 for 4.7 psi for a short burst that doesn't work at high rpm? Is that about right? Doesn't seem too be worth it. I don't doubt that major car companies are in on this technology, but for it to work on yours is another thing. I wish you good luck though and it'll be interesting to read the updates.

 

My friend has a 04 auto sedan, I smoke him 0-50, then me being a 4 speed and him a 5, he pulls hard on me and wins after that, but in my 02, no contest I beat him every time.

 

You raced him in ur 2000 right? I think a modded vq30 dek has a chance against a stock vq35.

 

That set up used an smaller earlier unit, and while the gains aren't the best it's an option for people who want that extra little umph without the hastle of plumbing piping for turbos n such. I plan on doing this only when I have gotten every other supporting mod first like my suspension then engine mods. With mods like a full exaust, cams, and pnp heads I'm sure it would be more worth it than just stock with the charger. In your honest opinion, when will you ever need to hold boost for more than 60 seconds? I can't wait to begin the build and I'm still reading into the supercharger. When I get a chance I'll email the maker about some of the specs and our maxima's

 

My guy's g is an 04, not 2005 hr. It doesnt have the circle taillights. So i texted him earlier and asked. His is the 260hp.

 

I've raced him with my 00, and 02, I pull on him 0-50 then he pulls on me and wins. but in my 02 I win it straight out. He has a 04 sedan with exhaust and intake.

 

Thats what i was thinking, i shouldnt have a problem taking a stock 04 g35& with my bolt on and tuned vq30, my guy uses 87 octane too! Honest to god lol.

 

My friend used to use 87, but I told him about the good ole 93. lol you shouldn't have too much of a problem, the only thing I lack is good gearing, 4-speed sux.

 

Is it an 04 or 05? Rev ups already have a notorious pinging problem. If he has one and is using 87...he needs his car taken away and license revoked. Dumb *** isn't saving any money.

 

Its an 04, and he abuses it! Yep 87 octane!