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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 09:06 PM
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Brake pads and slotted rotors?

Hey everyone. Getting a squealing from both my front and rear brakes on my passenger side and when I bought the vehicle a month ago I was told it needed brakes so here I am. Just a quick question. What brakes and rotors is everyone using? I hear about hawk brakes? What is a good version of them for the front and rear? As for rotors I'm looking for slotted. Not drilled and slotted, Only slotted rotors. Let me know! Thanks!
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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I have Akebono pads and regular Advance Auto rotors. Braking power is smooth and solid. Make sure to also lube the slide pins and change the brake fluid while you're in there.
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6th gen b/c stock rotors are too small and will just warp with one panic stop.
Old Jul 11, 2016 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by antnvlz1294
Hey everyone. Getting a squealing from both my front and rear brakes on my passenger side and when I bought the vehicle a month ago I was told it needed brakes so here I am. Just a quick question. What brakes and rotors is everyone using?
Squealing does not necessarily mean that your breaks are worn out. Usually, it's just a sign that your pads are not seated properly. You may want to take a closer look at your brakes (clips, pad angle of attack - positive or negative, pad thickness remaining, pin lubrication, rotor surface, etc.) before making a decision.

Re. the choice of pads and rotors: I am the original owner of my car, so I have had the pleasure of having had experience with (OEM rotos + pads), then (Brembo blanks + Raybestos QuietStop pads), then (Hawk pads); they all started vibrating/pulsating within 6 months or so of installation. They also sounded horrible .... . Subsequently, I bought the "basic" Power Stop kit (rotors + pads) from RockAuto (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....sn=378&jsn=378), installed them myself (unlike the previous pads/rotors), checked the run-out (no shimming was necessary), torqued everything properly (very important!!!) - and I have been a happy camper ever since then. That was more than 2 yrs ago! No shimmy, no vibration, great braking.

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I hear about hawk brakes? What is a good version of them for the front and rear? As for rotors I'm looking for slotted. Not drilled and slotted, Only slotted rotors. Let me know! Thanks!
Good to see that you are not enamored with drilled rotors. Along that line, make sure you understand why you want slotted rotors ... . From my experience, I can highly recommend Power Stop - it seems that their rotors and pads match each other very well.

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Old Jul 11, 2016 | 10:38 PM
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6th gen b/c stock rotors are too small and will just warp with one panic stop.
Not true. See my post #4 above.

I felt the same way and was almost at the point of installing 6th gen brakes. Then I thought about it and concluded that I shouldn't need them unless I do a lot of track racing. I don't. So, I tried Power Stop and it worked like charm for me. I should add that I did this installation myself (rather then having the shop do it): I was meticulous to the point of being ridiculous. In particular, I made sure that: a) The run-out was within the spec, and b) The angle of attack (pad vs. rotor) was not negative - I feel this is essential, and probably something that a typical shop does not pay much attention to.

I am a very happy camper. Total price of ~$130, for both axles!

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Old Jul 12, 2016 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by maxiiiboy
Not true. See my post #4 above.

I felt the same way and was almost at the point of installing 6th gen brakes. Then I thought about it and concluded that I shouldn't need them unless I do a lot of track racing. I don't. So, I tried Power Stop and it worked like charm for me. I should add that I did this installation myself (rather then having the shop do it): I was meticulous to the point of being ridiculous. In particular, I made sure that: a) The run-out was within the spec, and b) The angle of attack (pad vs. rotor) was not negative - I feel this is essential, and probably something that a typical shop does not pay much attention to.

I am a very happy camper. Total price of ~$130, for both axles!
Rotor mass is too little. A stomp from 80-90 to zero is gonna cook em, regardless. I have taken 6th gen rotors from 130 to zero then another hard brake immediately afterwards.

WOMEN driving maxis warp stock rotors easily. Cmon, now, there's just no hope for these undersized things.
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by maxiiiboy
Not true. See my post #4 above.

I felt the same way and was almost at the point of installing 6th gen brakes. Then I thought about it and concluded that I shouldn't need them unless I do a lot of track racing. I don't. So, I tried Power Stop and it worked like charm for me. I should add that I did this installation myself (rather then having the shop do it): I was meticulous to the point of being ridiculous. In particular, I made sure that: a) The run-out was within the spec, and b) The angle of attack (pad vs. rotor) was not negative - I feel this is essential, and probably something that a typical shop does not pay much attention to.

I am a very happy camper. Total price of ~$130, for both axles!
Going with the rock auto daily driver kit for $129 here!, what are you referring to with the angle of attack and the run out spec? Honestly I'm a previous ase certified mechanic and have never heard that.
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn
Rotor mass is too little. A stomp from 80-90 to zero is gonna cook em, regardless. I have taken 6th gen rotors from 130 to zero then another hard brake immediately afterwards.

WOMEN driving maxis warp stock rotors easily. Cmon, now, there's just no hope for these undersized things.
I don't honestly think 6gen are for me. Everyone on other forums are also not recommending them unless I'm swapping out brake fluid and tracking my maxima. Also I don't usually go 130mph lol
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 03:35 AM
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Squealing does not necessarily mean that your breaks are worn out. Usually, it's just a sign that your pads are not seated properly. You may want to take a closer look at your brakes (clips, pad angle of attack - positive or negative, pad thickness remaining, pin lubrication, rotor surface, etc.) before making a decision.

Re. the choice of pads and rotors: I am the original owner of my car, so I have had the pleasure of having had experience with (OEM rotos + pads), then (Brembo blanks + Raybestos QuietStop pads), then (Hawk pads); they all started vibrating/pulsating within 6 months or so of installation. They also sounded horrible .... . Subsequently, I bought the "basic" Power Stop kit (rotors + pads) from RockAuto (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....sn=378&jsn=378), installed them myself (unlike the previous pads/rotors), checked the run-out (no shimming was necessary), torqued everything properly (very important!!!) - and I have been a happy camper ever since then. That was more than 2 yrs ago! No shimmy, no vibration, great braking.


Good to see that you are not enamored with drilled rotors. Along that line, make sure you understand why you want slotted rotors ... . From my experience, I can highly recommend Power Stop - it seems that their rotors and pads match each other very well.
Yeah lol I ised to build older foxbody mustang and used slotted just for better heat transfer and to prevent warping.
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 04:42 AM
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Front - 6th gen blank rotors (some dealers here in group buys) and HAWK HPS pads
Rear- 5th gen blank rotors in rear and HAWK HPS pads
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 08:22 AM
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Ok. I am also a powerstop buyer. I first bought the ones for my 03. Well a few hard stops and they are trashed. Didn't last 5 months. The stock front rotors are to small. I switched to the 6th gen powers too extreme package front brakes and I couldn't be happier. The car finally has decent brakes. I now have no worries about stopping hard (weather it's from traffic on the interstate or me just goofing off with the girl friend )
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 09:52 AM
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so...are the 6th gen brakes and rotors a direct swap?
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thgendriver
so...are the 6th gen brakes and rotors a direct swap?
yes
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by antnvlz1294
, what are you referring to with the angle of attack and the run out spec?
Runout: Maximal variation of rotor thickness and its axial position; should not exceed 0.07 mm or 0.0028 inches for 2k Maxima.

Angle of Attack: The angle between the pad and the rotor when brake pressure applied; it should be positive (or zero) so that the trailing edge of the pad engages at the same time, or before, the leading edge does. When negative, the leading edge engages before the trailing edge does; this can cause uneven wear, shimmy and pulsation. (All this is my own terminology and "theory" but I am convinced of its importance).
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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Rotor mass is too little. A stomp from 80-90 to zero is gonna cook em, regardless. I have taken 6th gen rotors from 130 to zero then another hard brake immediately afterwards.
Yes, you are right about the mass. However, this rotating mass is a 2-edged sword, as you well know .... . I decided to stick with the OEM rotor size because I neither track race, nor do I do repetitive panic stops in the course of my normal driving. I haven't done stomps from 90, but I have done them from ~75mph, and my Power Stops were fine. They did heat up, but did not warp.
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Yes, you are right about the mass. However, this rotating mass is a 2-edged sword, as you well know .... . I decided to stick with the OEM rotor size because I neither track race, nor do I do repetitive panic stops in the course of my normal driving. I haven't done stomps from 90, but I have done them from ~75mph, and my Power Stops were fine. They did heat up, but did not warp.
Mine cracked on me.
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Mine cracked on me.
Drilled/slotted or plain?
Old Jul 12, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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Front - 6th gen blank rotors (some dealers here in group buys) and HAWK HPS pads
Rear- 5th gen blank rotors in rear and HAWK HPS pads
How long have you had them and how long have they held up?
Old Jul 13, 2016 | 04:09 AM
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Drilled/slotted or plain?
Drilled/slotted ones. Killed 2 sets of the stock size ones. Warped 1 set of the stock plain ones. As of last week I have only had the car a year and 12k miles.
The 6th gen drilled/slotted ones have been fine for the last 9k miles and they have taken a beating too as I have goofed off racing my girlfriend a few times (130+mph to 0 more than a few times)

The first set of drilled slotted ones died very quickly (less then 500miles) but they were cheap ebay rotors and pads. Bought the powerstop 5.5gen kit (did the break in and played really nice for the first 500miles) took a trip to Atlanta Georgia and had to make a few hard stops. Got home and noticed that the rotors had gotten hot and started cracking. Now I had hit the breaks to a dead stop from 80+ a few times on that trip ( hit a lot of traffic )
Was upset it started cracking so easily.
Old Jul 13, 2016 | 04:28 AM
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Drilled/slotted ones. Killed 2 sets of the stock size ones. Warped 1 set of the stock plain ones. As of last week I have only had the car a year and 12k miles.
The 6th gen drilled/slotted ones have been fine for the last 9k miles and they have taken a beating too as I have goofed off racing my girlfriend a few times (130+mph to 0 more than a few times)

The first set of drilled slotted ones died very quickly (less then 500miles) but they were cheap ebay rotors and pads. Bought the powerstop 5.5gen kit (did the break in and played really nice for the first 500miles) took a trip to Atlanta Georgia and had to make a few hard stops. Got home and noticed that the rotors had gotten hot and started cracking. Now I had hit the breaks to a dead stop from 80+ a few times on that trip ( hit a lot of traffic )
Was upset it started cracking so easily.
So which do you have? What brand rotors and pads for front and rear?
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Originally Posted by antnvlz1294
How long have you had them and how long have they held up?
i have been through two sets of 6th Gen front brakes and rotors.......

maybe 6 years or so..... the first set lasted 5 years and when I replaced them they still had life on them.
Old Jul 13, 2016 | 04:53 AM
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i have been through two sets of 6th Gen front brakes and rotors.......

maybe 6 years or so..... the first set lasted 5 years and when I replaced them they still had life on them.
Can I do 6 gen rotors and hawk hps pads in front and 5 gen rotors and hawk hps in the rear? Also in the front can I use 6th gen brakes too or will that not fit?
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So which do you have? What brand rotors and pads for front and rear?
Went with powerstop extreme 6th gen kit up front and the powerstop extreme 5.5 gen for the rear. There is no big brake upgrade for the rear that I know of
Old Jul 13, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by losifanatic
Went with powerstop extreme 6th gen kit up front and the powerstop extreme 5.5 gen for the rear. There is no big brake upgrade for the rear that I know of
How long have they lasted so far?
Old Jul 13, 2016 | 03:40 PM
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How long have they lasted so far?
About 9k miles. They have taken a beating too
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Blank rotors are good enough then invest on a good quality pads like Akebono and Hawk.
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