Brake pads and slotted rotors?
Brake pads and slotted rotors?
Hey everyone. Getting a squealing from both my front and rear brakes on my passenger side and when I bought the vehicle a month ago I was told it needed brakes so here I am. Just a quick question. What brakes and rotors is everyone using? I hear about hawk brakes? What is a good version of them for the front and rear? As for rotors I'm looking for slotted. Not drilled and slotted, Only slotted rotors. Let me know! Thanks!
Re. the choice of pads and rotors: I am the original owner of my car, so I have had the pleasure of having had experience with (OEM rotos + pads), then (Brembo blanks + Raybestos QuietStop pads), then (Hawk pads); they all started vibrating/pulsating within 6 months or so of installation. They also sounded horrible .... . Subsequently, I bought the "basic" Power Stop kit (rotors + pads) from RockAuto (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....sn=378&jsn=378), installed them myself (unlike the previous pads/rotors), checked the run-out (no shimming was necessary), torqued everything properly (very important!!!) - and I have been a happy camper ever since then. That was more than 2 yrs ago! No shimmy, no vibration, great braking.
Good to see that you are not enamored with drilled rotors. Along that line, make sure you understand why you want slotted rotors ... . From my experience, I can highly recommend Power Stop - it seems that their rotors and pads match each other very well.
Last edited by maxiiiboy; Jul 11, 2016 at 10:53 PM.
I felt the same way and was almost at the point of installing 6th gen brakes. Then I thought about it and concluded that I shouldn't need them unless I do a lot of track racing. I don't. So, I tried Power Stop and it worked like charm for me. I should add that I did this installation myself (rather then having the shop do it): I was meticulous to the point of being ridiculous. In particular, I made sure that: a) The run-out was within the spec, and b) The angle of attack (pad vs. rotor) was not negative - I feel this is essential, and probably something that a typical shop does not pay much attention to.
I am a very happy camper. Total price of ~$130, for both axles!
Last edited by maxiiiboy; Jul 11, 2016 at 10:46 PM.
Not true. See my post #4 above.
I felt the same way and was almost at the point of installing 6th gen brakes. Then I thought about it and concluded that I shouldn't need them unless I do a lot of track racing. I don't. So, I tried Power Stop and it worked like charm for me. I should add that I did this installation myself (rather then having the shop do it): I was meticulous to the point of being ridiculous. In particular, I made sure that: a) The run-out was within the spec, and b) The angle of attack (pad vs. rotor) was not negative - I feel this is essential, and probably something that a typical shop does not pay much attention to.
I am a very happy camper. Total price of ~$130, for both axles!
I felt the same way and was almost at the point of installing 6th gen brakes. Then I thought about it and concluded that I shouldn't need them unless I do a lot of track racing. I don't. So, I tried Power Stop and it worked like charm for me. I should add that I did this installation myself (rather then having the shop do it): I was meticulous to the point of being ridiculous. In particular, I made sure that: a) The run-out was within the spec, and b) The angle of attack (pad vs. rotor) was not negative - I feel this is essential, and probably something that a typical shop does not pay much attention to.
I am a very happy camper. Total price of ~$130, for both axles!
WOMEN driving maxis warp stock rotors easily. Cmon, now, there's just no hope for these undersized things.
Not true. See my post #4 above.
I felt the same way and was almost at the point of installing 6th gen brakes. Then I thought about it and concluded that I shouldn't need them unless I do a lot of track racing. I don't. So, I tried Power Stop and it worked like charm for me. I should add that I did this installation myself (rather then having the shop do it): I was meticulous to the point of being ridiculous. In particular, I made sure that: a) The run-out was within the spec, and b) The angle of attack (pad vs. rotor) was not negative - I feel this is essential, and probably something that a typical shop does not pay much attention to.
I am a very happy camper. Total price of ~$130, for both axles!
I felt the same way and was almost at the point of installing 6th gen brakes. Then I thought about it and concluded that I shouldn't need them unless I do a lot of track racing. I don't. So, I tried Power Stop and it worked like charm for me. I should add that I did this installation myself (rather then having the shop do it): I was meticulous to the point of being ridiculous. In particular, I made sure that: a) The run-out was within the spec, and b) The angle of attack (pad vs. rotor) was not negative - I feel this is essential, and probably something that a typical shop does not pay much attention to.
I am a very happy camper. Total price of ~$130, for both axles!
Rotor mass is too little. A stomp from 80-90 to zero is gonna cook em, regardless. I have taken 6th gen rotors from 130 to zero then another hard brake immediately afterwards.
WOMEN driving maxis warp stock rotors easily. Cmon, now, there's just no hope for these undersized things.
WOMEN driving maxis warp stock rotors easily. Cmon, now, there's just no hope for these undersized things.
Squealing does not necessarily mean that your breaks are worn out. Usually, it's just a sign that your pads are not seated properly. You may want to take a closer look at your brakes (clips, pad angle of attack - positive or negative, pad thickness remaining, pin lubrication, rotor surface, etc.) before making a decision.
Re. the choice of pads and rotors: I am the original owner of my car, so I have had the pleasure of having had experience with (OEM rotos + pads), then (Brembo blanks + Raybestos QuietStop pads), then (Hawk pads); they all started vibrating/pulsating within 6 months or so of installation. They also sounded horrible .... . Subsequently, I bought the "basic" Power Stop kit (rotors + pads) from RockAuto (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....sn=378&jsn=378), installed them myself (unlike the previous pads/rotors), checked the run-out (no shimming was necessary), torqued everything properly (very important!!!) - and I have been a happy camper ever since then. That was more than 2 yrs ago! No shimmy, no vibration, great braking.
Good to see that you are not enamored with drilled rotors. Along that line, make sure you understand why you want slotted rotors ... . From my experience, I can highly recommend Power Stop - it seems that their rotors and pads match each other very well.
Re. the choice of pads and rotors: I am the original owner of my car, so I have had the pleasure of having had experience with (OEM rotos + pads), then (Brembo blanks + Raybestos QuietStop pads), then (Hawk pads); they all started vibrating/pulsating within 6 months or so of installation. They also sounded horrible .... . Subsequently, I bought the "basic" Power Stop kit (rotors + pads) from RockAuto (http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....sn=378&jsn=378), installed them myself (unlike the previous pads/rotors), checked the run-out (no shimming was necessary), torqued everything properly (very important!!!) - and I have been a happy camper ever since then. That was more than 2 yrs ago! No shimmy, no vibration, great braking.
Good to see that you are not enamored with drilled rotors. Along that line, make sure you understand why you want slotted rotors ... . From my experience, I can highly recommend Power Stop - it seems that their rotors and pads match each other very well.
Ok. I am also a powerstop buyer. I first bought the ones for my 03. Well a few hard stops and they are trashed. Didn't last 5 months. The stock front rotors are to small. I switched to the 6th gen powers too extreme package front brakes and I couldn't be happier. The car finally has decent brakes. I now have no worries about stopping hard (weather it's from traffic on the interstate or me just goofing off with the girl friend )
Angle of Attack: The angle between the pad and the rotor when brake pressure applied; it should be positive (or zero) so that the trailing edge of the pad engages at the same time, or before, the leading edge does. When negative, the leading edge engages before the trailing edge does; this can cause uneven wear, shimmy and pulsation. (All this is my own terminology and "theory" but I am convinced of its importance).
Yes, you are right about the mass. However, this rotating mass is a 2-edged sword, as you well know .... . I decided to stick with the OEM rotor size because I neither track race, nor do I do repetitive panic stops in the course of my normal driving. I haven't done stomps from 90, but I have done them from ~75mph, and my Power Stops were fine. They did heat up, but did not warp.
Yes, you are right about the mass. However, this rotating mass is a 2-edged sword, as you well know .... . I decided to stick with the OEM rotor size because I neither track race, nor do I do repetitive panic stops in the course of my normal driving. I haven't done stomps from 90, but I have done them from ~75mph, and my Power Stops were fine. They did heat up, but did not warp.
Drilled/slotted ones. Killed 2 sets of the stock size ones. Warped 1 set of the stock plain ones. As of last week I have only had the car a year and 12k miles.
The 6th gen drilled/slotted ones have been fine for the last 9k miles and they have taken a beating too as I have goofed off racing my girlfriend a few times (130+mph to 0 more than a few times)
The first set of drilled slotted ones died very quickly (less then 500miles) but they were cheap ebay rotors and pads. Bought the powerstop 5.5gen kit (did the break in and played really nice for the first 500miles) took a trip to Atlanta Georgia and had to make a few hard stops. Got home and noticed that the rotors had gotten hot and started cracking. Now I had hit the breaks to a dead stop from 80+ a few times on that trip ( hit a lot of traffic )
Was upset it started cracking so easily.
The 6th gen drilled/slotted ones have been fine for the last 9k miles and they have taken a beating too as I have goofed off racing my girlfriend a few times (130+mph to 0 more than a few times)
The first set of drilled slotted ones died very quickly (less then 500miles) but they were cheap ebay rotors and pads. Bought the powerstop 5.5gen kit (did the break in and played really nice for the first 500miles) took a trip to Atlanta Georgia and had to make a few hard stops. Got home and noticed that the rotors had gotten hot and started cracking. Now I had hit the breaks to a dead stop from 80+ a few times on that trip ( hit a lot of traffic )
Was upset it started cracking so easily.
Drilled/slotted ones. Killed 2 sets of the stock size ones. Warped 1 set of the stock plain ones. As of last week I have only had the car a year and 12k miles.
The 6th gen drilled/slotted ones have been fine for the last 9k miles and they have taken a beating too as I have goofed off racing my girlfriend a few times (130+mph to 0 more than a few times)
The first set of drilled slotted ones died very quickly (less then 500miles) but they were cheap ebay rotors and pads. Bought the powerstop 5.5gen kit (did the break in and played really nice for the first 500miles) took a trip to Atlanta Georgia and had to make a few hard stops. Got home and noticed that the rotors had gotten hot and started cracking. Now I had hit the breaks to a dead stop from 80+ a few times on that trip ( hit a lot of traffic )
Was upset it started cracking so easily.
The 6th gen drilled/slotted ones have been fine for the last 9k miles and they have taken a beating too as I have goofed off racing my girlfriend a few times (130+mph to 0 more than a few times)
The first set of drilled slotted ones died very quickly (less then 500miles) but they were cheap ebay rotors and pads. Bought the powerstop 5.5gen kit (did the break in and played really nice for the first 500miles) took a trip to Atlanta Georgia and had to make a few hard stops. Got home and noticed that the rotors had gotten hot and started cracking. Now I had hit the breaks to a dead stop from 80+ a few times on that trip ( hit a lot of traffic )
Was upset it started cracking so easily.
Can I do 6 gen rotors and hawk hps pads in front and 5 gen rotors and hawk hps in the rear? Also in the front can I use 6th gen brakes too or will that not fit?
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