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Re: First Oil Change: The Latter the better?

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Old 02-12-2002 | 07:19 AM
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Re: First Oil Change: The Latter the better?

This is the continuation of the original thread on first time oil change for a new car. The original thread was closed before I was able to collect enough information for a special reason. But it was hit over 200 times over one night, I think there are enough people interested in this topic for me to bring it up again:

My friend has a 2k1 Toyota Camry. The dealer told him to change engine oil at 1000mile because the high altitude of Boulder Colorado. I also saw at several web sites that changing oil before the first 1k mile is beneficial for a new car. I would like to know if there are maxima owners that change engine oil early than the manual recommanded especially before 1k mile. If you do, do you feel the benefits.

For the convinent of discussion I included the original thread. If you think this is a silly question, just skip it, no offending words please.

"Regarding the first time engine oil change for my 2k2 6spd, someone one on Toyota RAV site said 600mile is the time of great tear and wear with small residue inside the engine oil, so it is for the owner's good to chang it at this time.

But american honda owner's site has the following description:

http://www.ahm-ownerlink.com:80/Mai...aq=oil#oilfirst
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Why should I wait to change the oil the first time?

Your Honda engine was delivered with an oil that is specially formulated for new engines that have not yet developed their "natural" wear patterns and may contain minute particles from the manufacturing process.

American Honda strongly recommends this special oil be left in the engine long enough
forthese wear patterns to develop, usually until the first maintenance interval specified in
your Owner's Manual, based on your specific driving conditions."

Question is which one is correct, does Nissan has the special engine oil for new car? "

thanks
Old 02-12-2002 | 07:25 AM
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there is a wealth of information

available here on this topic.

It was closed to prevent further flaming. I meant to trim the fat off and tell you why it was closed but the server kept crapping out so I gave up.

Again, not only are there a ton of posts here about this, but people tend to be less helpful each time it is asked. You will find better/more helpful information in past threads. Just look up in the top right hand corner for 'search'.

If anyone *wants* to post the links or help on this thread, fine. Just leave him alone, no need to be an a$$. There is no reason for that, we were all new to the board one time or another.

to answer your question, no.. you shouldnt have break-in oil.
Old 02-12-2002 | 08:12 AM
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sorry so long

From the Nissan Owner's Manual
Pg 9-5 Oil additives - NISSAN does not recommend the use of oil additives. The use of an oil additive is not necessary when the proper oil type is used and maintenance intervals are followed.
and
Pg 9-6 Your engine was filled with a high quality engine oil when it was built. You do not have to change the oil before the first recommended
change interval. Oil and filter change intervals depend upon how you use your vehicle. Operation under the following conditions may require more frequent oil and filter changes.


So, according to the official owner's manual, you will be covered under warranty if you change your oil at the regular interval. It does not give you a schedule, so the generally accepted dino-rule is about 3,000 - 4,000 miles, sythetic can be a big range I won't define (my Volvo XC70 was 7,500, friend's slk320 was 12,000, maybe more).

Please, stop comparing Honda to Maxima. Bob Sikorsky (knows a little about cars) called Honda and they told him Honda DOES put additives in the first oil and NOT to change it until 3,750 (google search "bob sikorsky" "honda oil change"). As stated many times before, Nissan does NOT put that additive in first oil.
Old 02-12-2002 | 08:13 AM
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Re: there is a wealth of information

Best thing to do if you are not sure (which I wasn't) is to spilt the difference. I changed my oil on my 2k2 at @1400 miles....a bit less than halfway thru the 3750 recommended interval.
Old 02-12-2002 | 10:39 AM
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Re: sorry so long

Originally posted by 2k2wannabe
From the Nissan Owner's Manual
Pg 9-5 Oil additives - NISSAN does not recommend the use of oil additives. The use of an oil additive is not necessary when the proper oil type is used and maintenance intervals are followed.
and
Pg 9-6 Your engine was filled with a high quality engine oil when it was built. You do not have to change the oil before the first recommended
change interval. Oil and filter change intervals depend upon how you use your vehicle. Operation under the following conditions may require more frequent oil and filter changes.


So, according to the official owner's manual, you will be covered under warranty if you change your oil at the regular interval. It does not give you a schedule, so the generally accepted dino-rule is about 3,000 - 4,000 miles, sythetic can be a big range I won't define (my Volvo XC70 was 7,500, friend's slk320 was 12,000, maybe more).

Please, stop comparing Honda to Maxima. Bob Sikorsky (knows a little about cars) called Honda and they told him Honda DOES put additives in the first oil and NOT to change it until 3,750 (google search "bob sikorsky" "honda oil change"). As stated many times before, Nissan does NOT put that additive in first oil.
Thanks for the information. It will also help me when I go for the second car for my wife.

Thanks gang!
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